Patrick J. D’Silva (Worlds Beyond Worlds/WBW) and Josh Perez (Sweet & Condensed) discuss what motivated Patrick’s course on race, religion, and science fiction and how it evolved from an upper-level “Religion and Science Fiction” class into a special-topics course explicitly centered on race. Patrick describes key themes—defining the human, encountering the other, and how race, gender, sexuality, and disability are woven through speculative fiction—covering topics such as racism in Lord of the Rings, Star Wars/Star Trek, Indigenous Futurism, Afrofuturism/Africanfuturism, cyberpunk (Neuromancer), monsters (Frankenstein), and Jediism as a fiction-based religious movement. He explains his pedagogy, emphasizing student autonomy (co-editing the syllabus, choosing evaluation methods, flexible formats, and deadlines) and unEssays” (creative projects such as illustrated journals, roleplaying games, cookbooks, audio tracks, paintings, zines, and original fiction), shaped by his teaching experience, parenting, and the pandemic. They also discuss why film/TV are central to teaching today—visual media’s cultural dominance, immersive “magic,” merchandising/participation, and the impact of on-screen representation. Time Stamps: 00:28 Why This Conversation Now 02:37 Course Origins and Big Questions 04:34 Race and Futurisms Units 06:48 Student-Led Syllabus and Grading 08:30 unEssays Creative Projects 10:47 Rethinking Traditional Pedagogy 13:09 Parenthood and Student Needs 15:09 Pandemic Compassion and Flexibility 17:45 Holistic Learning and Autonomy 23:32 Movies as Magic and Orientation 26:54 Why Film in the Classroom 27:59 Students Struggling to Read 30:17 Reading vs Watching 31:16 Video Culture Shift 33:27 Teaching Without Ego 35:34 Frankenstein Revisited 37:44 Movie Magic Immersion 41:45 Representation On Screen 46:35 Student Creative Projects 50:22 Improvising In The Classroom 52:07 Fandom As Religion 56:38 Wrap Up And Plugs This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit worldbeyondworlds.substack.com