Have you ever had a moment where everything is ready to go — the gym clothes are out, the homework plan is made, the reminders are set — and then when the time comes… your brain just says nope? If that sounds familiar, you’re not alone. In our latest episode of ADHDKC Conversations, hosts Kristen Stuppy and Sara Whelan sit down with ADHD coach Mike Legett to explore the fascinating neuroscience behind motivation and decision-making in ADHD brains. This conversation began when Kristen heard Mike speak at the ADHD International Conference in Kansas City. After the talk, Kristen immediately asked her to speak for ADHDKC — because her explanation of complex genetics was one of the most clear explanations, understandable to even non-science nerds. It was her favorite talk from the entire conference and she knows ADHDKC parents would love to hear Mike communicate science. In this episode, Mike gives listeners a preview of the ideas she’ll share during the upcoming ADHDKC Parent Group talk on May 12th, where she will present: “To Do, or Not To Do? Decision Neuroscience and ADHD.” Why ADHD Brains Sometimes Can’t Get Started Many parents say the same thing: “My child knows what to do — they just can’t get started.” Mike explains that the problem usually isn’t knowledge or intelligence. Instead, it’s the brain’s internal decision-making system trying to answer a much more basic question: “Is this worth it right now?” ADHD brains weigh that question differently. Rather than prioritizing importance or long-term consequences, they respond strongly to things that feel: • interesting• immediate• novel• challenging• emotionally engaging Understanding this can completely change how we respond when kids (or adults) seem stuck. Moving From Frustration to Compassion One of the most powerful parts of this conversation is how understanding brain science can reduce shame. Instead of assuming a child is lazy, careless, or defiant, neuroscience shows us something very different: the brain may simply be struggling to activate the task. As Mike puts it: “What’s hard is hard — and it’s hard for a reason.” That shift in perspective opens the door to more effective strategies and more compassionate parenting. Practical Ideas From the Episode In this conversation you’ll hear about: • Why “try harder” doesn’t actually help ADHD motivation• The difference between effort problems and activation problems• Why importance doesn’t automatically create motivation in ADHD brains• How collaborative problem-solving helps kids build autonomy• A simple mindset shift that helps parents slow down and find real solutions You’ll also hear Mike share how her unusual career path (though not atypical for an ADHDer) — from an engineering undergrad to a genetics grad student to an internationally recognized swing dance instructor to an ADHD coach — shaped the way she understands learning, motivation, and brain science. Want to Learn More? This episode is just the beginning. Mike will be our featured speaker at the next ADHDKC Parent Group online event: Tuesday, May 126:30 PM Central To Do, or Not To Do? Decision Neuroscience and ADHD During that talk, Mike will go deeper into the brain science behind decision-making and explain complex concepts in clear, approachable language that parents can actually use. If you’ve ever wondered why motivation seems so unpredictable in ADHD — this is a conversation you won’t want to miss. Register for the Parent Group event here. And in the meantime, watch the full ADHDKC Conversations episode above, on our YouTube channel, or listen on your favorite podcast player. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage 00:17 Understanding ADHD and Decision-Making 03:16 Mike Leggett’s Journey to ADHD Coaching 08:22 Learning and Motivation: A Unique Perspective 10:24 Decision Neuroscience Explained 12:52 The Challenge of Getting Started 15:43 The Equation of Motivation 19:52 Building Compassion Through Understanding 22:41 Common Misconceptions About ADHD and Motivation 24:11 Mindset Shifts for Parents 26:23 Practical Strategies for Families 28:03 Supporting Autonomy and Motivation 31:05 Strategies for Adults with ADHD 33:34 Bridging the Gap in Understanding ADHD 35:05 Key Takeaways for Parents 36:57 Fun and Personal Insights Transcript - autogenerated, excuse the errors Kristen Stuppy (00:17) Welcome back to ADHDKC Conversations. I’m Kristen Stuppy. Sara Whelan (00:22) And I’m Sara Whelan. We’re so glad to have you here with us. And whether you’re a parent, educator, professional, someone navigating ADHD yourself, our goal is always the same, to bring you practical insights, really compassionate perspectives and conversations that just help make life a little easier. Kristen Stuppy (00:43) And today’s episode is one that I think a lot of families are going to recognize themselves in. You know these moments where you want to do something, you’ve planned it, you’ve prepared for it, but when the time comes, your brain just says, Sara Whelan (00:58) Yeah, for sure. Like, gym clothes are ready. We’ve got the homework all planned out. Morning routine is mapped out. But somehow it just doesn’t all happen or any of it happens at all. If that sounds familiar, you’re definitely not alone. You’re in good company here. Kristen Stuppy (01:16) Today we’re going to begin talking about the neuroscience of decision-making, specifically how ADHD brains decide what feels worth doing and what doesn’t. And we have an incredible guest here to help us unpack things in a way that actually makes sense in real life. I do have to say that I heard Mike talk at the November ADHD International big convention here in Kansas City, and she’s the... only speaker I went up to after the talk and asked her if I could ask her to speak for this group because it was by far the best talk I heard at that entire conference. She made genetics very relatable. And I do have a science background, but I don’t think I needed the science background to understand what she was saying. So I’m very excited that she’s here today. Sara Whelan (02:07) Fantastic. I’m so excited. I do not have a science background and just cannot wait to learn your insights and what you have to share with us and our audience. Kristen Stuppy (02:11) Bye. Sara Whelan (02:17) We’re joined today by Mike Leggett. Mike’s an ADHD coach. Hi, welcome. And she has a wonderfully unique background in science and art. And she got her start in genetics, later became an internationally recognized swing and blues dance instructor. I have a dance background. Love that. fantastic. And now helps ADHD clients move from being overwhelmed, frustrated toward being curious. Mike Legett (02:22) you Sara Whelan (02:44) having momentum in their lives and making meaningful progress. Mike Legett (02:47) you Kristen Stuppy (02:49) And Mike describes herself as a proud nerd, which we absolutely love because I am also a proud nerd. And she’s passionate again about translating complex neuroscience into language that parents and individuals can actually use. She’ll be our featured speaker at the ADHD KC parent group event on Tuesday, May 12th at 6.30 PM Central. And in today’s conversation, it’s a great preview of what families can expect. Sara Whelan (02:53) Okay. Mike, welcome to ADHD KC conversations. We’re just so glad you’re here. Mike Legett (03:20) Thank you. Thank you so much. ⁓ am thrilled and honored ⁓ and also delighted. And thank you, Kristen. Man, that really feels good to hear. So thank you so much. Kristen Stuppy (03:32) That’s awesome. I think I did a review for you as well online. hopefully you’ll be invited back to more of those talks. But I do love hearing about the journey from science into coaching. Can you tell us a little more about what drew you to ADHD coaching specifically? Mike Legett (03:35) Yay! Yeah, it was exactly as straight and linear a path as you might expect from an ADHD-er. So I, you know, I actually was always interested in science and arts and writing and, right, just all the things. And when I was in high school, right, I was like, I’m going to be an engineer. So I went to undergrad and I was like, yeah, I’m going to be engineer. And then I got in there. I was like, no, I’m not. I’m going to be a vet in my last year undergrad. was like, well, okay, no. Instead, I’m going to do genetics because I had a professor who was, I think she said she had ADHD. If not, she certainly got it. she, know, molecular genetics was super interesting. It was a puzzle. So I started my PhD in molecular genetics and I had been diagnosed ⁓ as a kid with ADHD, which is remarkable for a woman in her forties who was inattentive, which might give you a hint as to like, how noticeable it was that I didn’t skate by. But it wasn’t managed ⁓ through anything other than know, gritted teeth and overcommitment, which was my maladaptive coping mechanism, right? So by the time I get to grad school, my coping mechanisms weren’t working anymore. So I was sitting in this grad school library, right? And this article, comes across my desk, digital desk, about ADHD in women and what it looked like. Because when I was a kid, they were like, you have ADHD. That’s why you’re disorganized and distracted. You can try Ritalin. And I was like, cool. I don’t like Ritalin. And they’re like, cool. Have a good life. That was it. And so this article comes across my desk. And I was like, this is my entire life explained, every aspect. Because again, I was left with, this is why you’re distracted and disorganized. So there was like, Sara Whelan (05:34) Mm-hmm. Mike Legett (05:35) ugly crying in a grad school library, as one does. And so I ended up dropping out of grad school because the graduate program said, we can’t, you know, I know you’ve been diagnosed, but you have t