Just Your Average Joel

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Join Joel and Jennifer, Husband and Wife, who share sobriety and and faith for over 30 years. They challenge AA organization and apply the 12 steps and their faith to help keep them living with purpose and void of the influence of drugs and alcohol.

  1. 2d ago

    Are You Working Steps Or Avoiding God?

    Send us Fan Mail If your recovery feels like information without transformation, we’re going straight at why. We’ve watched a lot of people rack up sober time while staying stuck in the same fear, pride, control, and spiritual restlessness that drove the drinking in the first place. So we dig into the real pivot point: the change that’s meant to happen through the 12 steps, not just the “educational variety” of sobriety. We start by tying Steps 6 and 7 to what comes next, because if we’re not genuinely seeking God and asking for defects of character to be removed, Steps 8 and 9 become paperwork instead of power. We read the Step Seven Prayer and talk about ego deflation, the essential psychic change, and what it feels like when your conscience comes alive again. From there we treat Step Eight and Step Nine the way the Big Book frames them: paired, practical, and inseparable faith in action. Then we get into the heart of amends: forgiveness, living in the now, and making things whole. We share real stories where amends are accepted and where they are flat-out rejected, and why your freedom cannot depend on someone else’s reaction. We also challenge the version of Alcoholics Anonymous that turns into meetings, slogans, and mechanics without a spiritual experience, because works without faith is just work. If you want a spiritual awakening and not just “not drinking,” press play. Subscribe, share this with someone who’s stuck, and leave a review so more people can find the message. Support the show

  2. Oct 3

    Stop Worshipping The Finger And Meet God

    Send us Fan Mail Most people can explain the Twelve Steps. Far fewer can point to the moment they actually changed on the inside. We go straight at that gap by walking through the Big Book language around Steps 5, 6, and 7 and asking a blunt question: if the spiritual experience the book describes is not happening, what are we really doing?  We talk about how recovery can quietly slide into sponsor dependence, meeting culture, and “people, places, and things” thinking while God becomes smaller in our language and in our choices. Then we read and react to the Fifth Step promises and the Sixth and Seventh Step prayers, highlighting the intended outcome: a personal relationship with God that produces a real shift in consciousness, not just better behavior.  The heart of the conversation is what we call the transfer of power. Step 6 and Step 7 are where willingness turns into surrender, ego deflation becomes real, and character defects stop being a self improvement project and become something we humbly ask God to remove. We connect that inner change to practical life tests, especially romance and finance, and we share stories where choosing security over God kept us sick, while choosing God brought freedom and integrity.  If you want a grounded, Big Book centered take on Step 6, Step 7, psychic change, spiritual awakening, and what it actually looks like to live sober with humility, hit play. Subscribe, share this with someone working the Steps, and leave a review with the biggest takeaway you heard. Support the show

  3. Sep 18

    Kumbaya Doesn’t Fix Psychosis

    Send us Fan Mail A lot of damage gets done by people who sound kind. We’re seeing it in the culture, in recovery rooms, and all over social media, where empathy gets weaponized into a free pass and the victims get treated like an inconvenience. That’s the heart of what we mean by toxic empathy, and it’s why we wanted to talk about the Lindsay Clancy trial and the wave of public sympathy that seems to skip right over the children who died. We start with a clip about the seeker-sensitive church movement and the brutal lesson it learned: if you build an institution around what outsiders say they want, you eventually hand them the authority to define what the institution is. Then we connect that straight to Alcoholics Anonymous, where we’ve watched “acceptance without structure” turn into weak recovery, vague spirituality, and a culture of niceness that avoids telling the truth. We talk about why “living along spiritual lines” requires responsibility, humility, and actual power, not endless loopholes. From there, we get into the Lindsay Clancy case, mental health, psychosis, hormones, and the hard question nobody wants to ask out loud: when does compassion turn into permission that sets a deadly precedent? We also unpack how tolerance gets confused with love, why Jesus is often treated like a taboo word in AA, and how this same pattern shows up in bigger cultural debates where feelings outrun facts and the unintended consequences land on the most vulnerable. If you’re tired of slogans and ready for a real conversation about empathy, accountability, and moral clarity, press play. Subscribe, share the show with a friend, and leave a review so more people can find us. Support the show

    Kumbaya Doesn’t Fix Psychosis

  4. Aug 8

    Stop Saving Face And Start Saving Your Ass

    Send us Fan Mail The Fifth Step gets talked about like a dreaded confession, but what if it’s actually the moment the “essential psychic change” finally becomes real? We sit down with the Big Book open and ask the uncomfortable question: why do so many people complete the steps and still don’t feel that deep spiritual shift they were promised. We trace the thread from the Third Step decision, through the Fourth Step inventory, into the Fifth Step truth telling, and we keep coming back to one point: human power can’t deliver what only a Higher Power can. We read straight through the language on Page 72 and Page 75 and unpack what it means to discover the obstacles in our path, “pocket our pride,” and withhold nothing. We talk about secrets, ego deflation, and the relief that comes when you finally say the thing out loud and realize your mind has been magnifying it for years. We also get into integrity, living a dual life, and why the “exact nature” of our wrongs often includes motive, rationalization, and how we felt, not just what we did. We’re direct about a common trap in 12 step recovery: putting the focus on people, approval, and sponsor authority instead of the God part. The goal is a relationship with God that can hold you steady when nobody is watching and nothing external can prop you up. If you want a practical, spiritual, Big Book grounded look at AA Step 5 and why it can change the way you walk through the world, hit play, then subscribe, share the episode, and leave a review. What’s one part of Step 5 you wish someone had explained sooner? Support the show

  5. Jul 7

    Why Step Three Must Change Everything

    Send us Fan Mail What if the reason sobriety feels flat isn’t a lack of meetings, but a lack of surrender? We pick up our walkthrough of the 12 Steps by recapping Step 3 and stepping into Step 4, and we don’t soften the point: Alcoholics Anonymous was built to lead to a spiritual awakening and a lived relationship with God, not just a routine of groups, slogans, and social support. We read from “AA: The Cleveland Way” and talk about early, hands-on step work, including a blunt Third Step prayer that names God and Jesus directly. That opens a real conversation about the phrase “spiritual, not religious.” We argue that modern AA can drift into an outward religion of rituals, while the Big Book’s program is about inner transformation, guidance, and God as the new manager. We also explore why words like “recovered” and even “cured” create pushback, and what those words mean when the power is God rather than self. Then we turn to Step 4 as the practical path forward: inventory as a way to discover the obstacles that block conscious contact with God. We connect resentment, fear, pride, and manipulation to self-will, talk about prayer inside the Fourth Step process, and share examples of how we dodge responsibility by telling half the story or taking someone else’s inventory. The payoff is freedom: when we own our part, we stop being a victim, we stop reacting like a “monkey see, monkey do,” and we start living from truth and love. If you’re serious about lasting AA recovery, emotional sobriety, and a deeper spiritual life, this conversation will challenge you and give you a clearer map. Subscribe, share the episode with someone who’s stuck, and leave a review. What’s the biggest obstacle between you and the life you say you want? Support the show

    Why Step Three Must Change Everything

  6. Jun 12

    A Real Decision Creates A New Life

    Send us Fan Mail Step Three gets treated like a speed bump, but it’s the hinge that swings the whole door of recovery. We dig into why “we decided to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God” is not a vibe, a slogan, or a box to check. It’s a decision that changes your direction, and if you don’t actually make it, you can stay sober on the surface while your fear, control, and ego keep running the show underneath.  We read straight from the AA Big Book and talk about the part many people try to soften: the program is built around God, prayer, and a new relationship with a Higher Power. We contrast what happens in a lot of meetings with what the text actually says about self-will, selfishness, and the need for divine help. We also unpack why sincerity matters, why “decision brings power,” and how the Third Step Prayer lays out a clear purpose: to be relieved of the bondage of self so we can do God’s will and help others.  We also hit spiritual awakening and spiritual experience, including the “educational variety” that grows over time, and the danger of contempt prior to investigation. If you’ve ever felt like recovery got watered down into fellowship-only sobriety, this conversation brings it back to the core: faith, responsibility, and a decision that leads into rigorous action and a fearless inventory.  If this helped you, subscribe, share it with someone who’s stuck, and leave a review so more people can find the Big Book-centered path to real transformation. Support the show

    A Real Decision Creates A New Life

  7. May 27

    Why Step Two Starts With Hopelessness And Ends With Hope

    Send us Fan Mail If you’ve ever wondered why some people stay stuck in recovery even after years sober, we go straight to the uncomfortable answer: they may have stopped drinking without ever finding the power that actually changes a life. We take on Step Two in Alcoholics Anonymous and the Big Book’s blunt diagnosis of insanity, ego, and being “beyond human aid,” then we talk about what hope looks like when it’s more than positive thinking. We unpack why Step Two is not a vague “believe in something” slogan, but a directional shift toward a higher power that can restore sanity through a spiritual awakening. Along the way, we challenge a common trap in modern AA culture: treating meetings, sponsorship, and fellowship as the highest authority. Those supports matter, but when they become our god, we can end up in a more comfortable version of the same prison. We also dig into “We Agnostics,” “lack of power was our dilemma,” and why the Big Book keeps pointing away from self-reliance and toward an essential psychic change. We get practical about what blocks that change: rebuilding a new self too fast, leaning on external structure, and even trying to invent a custom-made God we can control. Belief, we argue, is proven by action, and real belief moves us toward surrender and the Step Three decision rather than endless debate in our heads. If this challenges you, that’s the point. Listen, share it with someone in sobriety, and leave a review if you want more honest conversations about the 12 steps, spiritual recovery, and what actually prevents relapse. Support the show

    Why Step Two Starts With Hopelessness And Ends With Hope

  8. May 15

    Step One Or Nothing

    Send us Fan Mail If you’ve ever wondered why you can be totally convinced you “shouldn’t drink” and still pick up anyway, we go straight to the Big Book answer: Step One isn’t about shame, it’s about reality. We unpack what “powerless over alcohol” really means in Alcoholics Anonymous, including the insanity that shows up before the first drink and the painful truth that unmanageability doesn’t magically disappear when the bottle is gone. We read and react to key AA passages on “no middle-of-the-road solution,” “no effective mental defense,” and the moment recovery shifts from an argument in our head to a concession in our heart. Along the way, we talk about the 18-inch journey from head to heart, why hopelessness can be a gift when it finally produces honesty, and why “I can manage my life” is often the last illusion to die. If you care about addiction recovery, relapse prevention, and real spiritual awakening, this is the foundation under everything else. We also get candid about modern AA culture: the difference between being in meetings and living the program, what happens when fellowship becomes a false higher power, and why “raising the bottom” can unintentionally keep people from the surrender that leads to lasting sobriety. We close by teeing up Step Two and the principle of hope, because hope actually works when it’s built on the bedrock of complete defeat. Subscribe, share this with someone who’s stuck, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway from Step One. Support the show

    Step One Or Nothing
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Join Joel and Jennifer, Husband and Wife, who share sobriety and and faith for over 30 years. They challenge AA organization and apply the 12 steps and their faith to help keep them living with purpose and void of the influence of drugs and alcohol.

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  • Creator
    Joel and Jennifer
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    15
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © 2026 Just Your Average Joel
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