All That I Have Met

Meredith Ogilvie-Thompson

Conversations with people changing the world. Not the usual suspects. Not the usual questions. New episodes drop the first and third Tuesday of the month. Hosted by award-winning journalist Meredith Ogilvie-Thompson.

Episodes

  1. F*ck the Patriarchy

    4d ago

    F*ck the Patriarchy

    In conversation with Bobbi Thomason A survey of Harvard Business School graduates — ambitious, educated, the ones who were supposed to have figured it out — found that the women expected equal partnerships and the men expected their careers to come first. The men's expectations were exceeded. Bobbi Thomason is a professor at Pepperdine's business school, a Stanford-trained engineer, tenured ahead of schedule, and one of the leading researchers in her field on women, work and negotiation. She also moved across the country for her husband's job while studying exactly why women move across the country for their husband's jobs.  Her conclusion, after fifteen years of research: if you're having the conversation about equality in your marriage, you've probably already lost the battle. The decisions that shape everything — who moves, who steps back, who gets the bigger career — tend to be made before anyone sits down to talk. This conversation is for anyone who has ever been managed, undermined, talked over or passed over. Which, the data suggests, is most of us — as Bobbi makes clear, this isn't only about women. Her book, Vows to Ourselves, publishes March 2027 from HarperCollins. Have something to say? I'm all ears. If this conversation meant something to you, share it — it's how the show gets found. And if you'd like to support the work, a paid subscription goes a long way.  Subscribe here Want more between essays and episodes? Check out Below the Fold — shorter dispatches on the stories worth paying attention to, from the people in my own backyard to the forces reshaping the wider world. Watch clips and video previews on YouTube  Credits: Host: Meredith Ogilvie-Thompson Sound Editing: Dax Krishna and the team at SpeechDocs Music: Ilya Kuznetsov

    1h 3m
  2. BONUS: Ebola, Africa, and What DOGE Actually Broke — Meredith on The Atlantic Current

    May 29

    BONUS: Ebola, Africa, and What DOGE Actually Broke — Meredith on The Atlantic Current

    This is a bonus episode — a guest appearance I made on The Atlantic Current with Vince Martin and Tull McAdoo, reposted here with their kind permission. They brought me on to talk about the Ebola outbreak currently unfolding in the DRC. We ended up covering a lot of ground: how Ebola spreads and how it doesn't, what the gutting of USAID, GAVI and the CDC actually means for an outbreak happening right now in a remote and conflict-adjacent corner of the world, and why American foreign aid was never charity — but self-interest. We also talked about Africa more broadly, and the extraordinary gap between what the continent actually is and what most Americans think they know about it. The Atlantic Current is hosted by Vince Martin, an economist and writer, and creator of Wall Street and Main, and Tull McAdoo of the Irish Politics Newsletter. It's a smart, irreverent show and I loved every minute being with these two. Have something to say? I'm all ears. If this conversation meant something to you, share it — it's how the show gets found. And if you'd like to support the work, a paid subscription goes a long way.  Subscribe here Want more between essays and episodes? Check out Below the Fold — shorter dispatches on the stories worth paying attention to, from the people in my own backyard to the forces reshaping the wider world. Watch clips and video previews on YouTube  Credits: Host: Meredith Ogilvie-Thompson Sound Editing: Dax Krishna and the team at SpeechDocs Music: Ilya Kuznetsov

    46 min
  3. Brand Builder

    May 19

    Brand Builder

    In conversation with Bob Sheard. He asked a room full of LVMH executives to raise their hands if they were wearing a watch. Then to put them down if it wasn't a Rolex. Half the hands stayed up. "That's the hole in your soul," he said. "That's what the watch is telling everybody." As co-founder of FreshBritain, Bob Sheard has spent thirty years building the tools that taught companies to behave like people — from Levi's and Burberry to Converse and Arc'teryx. He was headhunted onto the Karrimor board in his twenties by the Benetton family and called in to advise the Gandhi family during the world's largest general election.  Then those same tools escaped the boardroom and were absorbed by...people. I called him to find out what that's costing us — and whether there's a way back. His answer involves an ice axe company, a jacket that will eventually become a carrot, and a four-week programme designed to reach every kid at the exact moment their identity is most formative. Have something to say? I'm all ears. If this conversation meant something to you, share it — it's how the show gets found. And if you'd like to support the work, a paid subscription goes a long way.  Subscribe here Want more between essays and episodes? Check out Below the Fold — shorter dispatches on the stories worth paying attention to, from the people in my own backyard to the forces reshaping the wider world. Watch clips and video previews on YouTube  Credits: Host: Meredith Ogilvie-Thompson Sound Editing: Dax Krishna and the team at SpeechDocs Music: Ilya Kuznetsov

    51 min
  4. Dispatch: Péter Dósa on the Election in Hungary and Why Americans Should Be Paying Attention

    Apr 8

    Dispatch: Péter Dósa on the Election in Hungary and Why Americans Should Be Paying Attention

    Viktor Orbán received a George Soros scholarship to study at Oxford. Years later, he regulated Soros’s university out of Budapest. The irony tells you most of what you need to know about the system he built — and why it’s worth understanding before it becomes more familiar than it already is. Péter Dósa was born in Budapest in 1998, nine years after the fall of communism. He left with his family at eight and, though he grew up in Ireland and Barcelona, never stopped watching Hungary. He founded The Hungary Report to do what most outlets don’t: explain Orbán’s system in depth, for an international audience that now spans more than 110 countries. Péter doesn’t come with a think tank title. What he has is rarer — he understands the system from the inside. We spoke the week of Hungary’s 2026 election, which Politico Europe called the EU’s most important of the year. But our conversation wasn’t really about that election — it was about a set of tools for dismantling democracy, tools that have been field-tested for sixteen years in a Central European country and are now being deployed at scale elsewhere. Péter explains how the system was built, how it bends rather than breaks the rules, and why regulated-out-of-existence is harder to fight than banned. He cast his ballot by post from Barcelona before we spoke. It was the first time in his adult life he thought his vote might actually change something. Photo: Bjoern Wylezich Have something to say? I'm all ears. If this conversation meant something to you, share it — it's how the show gets found. And if you'd like to support the work, a paid subscription goes a long way.  Subscribe here Want more between essays and episodes? Check out Below the Fold — shorter dispatches on the stories worth paying attention to, from the people in my own backyard to the forces reshaping the wider world. Watch clips and video previews on YouTube  Credits: Host: Meredith Ogilvie-Thompson Sound Editing: Dax Krishna and the team at SpeechDocs Music: Ilya Kuznetsov

    35 min
  5. Dispatch: Sam Kiley on the Middle East

    Apr 1

    Dispatch: Sam Kiley on the Middle East

    "History is happening to people who have become very complacent about history being a thing that happens to other people." That's Sam Kiley, near the end of our conversation. And the line I keep coming back to. Sam has covered every major conflict of the past thirty years — from Somalia, Rwanda and Iraq, to Afghanistan, Ukraine and — now — the widening war in the Middle East. He is World Affairs Editor of The Independent, a two-time Emmy winner, and — perhaps most usefully — not an American journalist. So he has no institutional reason to edit what he reports. I called him on March 29th, two days after the Houthis entered the fight and the day after President Zelenskyy signed defence agreements with Saudi Arabia and Qatar. We covered a lot of ground: the logic, or lack of it, behind the US-Israeli strikes on Iran; what the Mosaic defence strategy means for anyone still thinking in 20th-century military terms; why Houthi involvement could reshape global trade in ways most people aren't tracking; and what Gaza's endgame actually looks like when you strip away the noise. There was also something I didn't expect: a case that the war in the Middle East may be doing more for Ukraine's long-term survival than three years of Western military aid. And a question about where, right now, Sam sees the ingredients for a coup most clearly assembled. The answer is not where most people would look. Photo: Bjoern Wylezich Have something to say? I'm all ears. If this conversation meant something to you, share it — it's how the show gets found. And if you'd like to support the work, a paid subscription goes a long way.  Subscribe here Want more between essays and episodes? Check out Below the Fold — shorter dispatches on the stories worth paying attention to, from the people in my own backyard to the forces reshaping the wider world. Watch clips and video previews on YouTube  Credits: Host: Meredith Ogilvie-Thompson Sound Editing: Dax Krishna and the team at SpeechDocs Music: Ilya Kuznetsov

    44 min
  6. The State of Things

    Mar 17

    The State of Things

    In Conversation with Aniket Shah. Most people who work in finance don't question capitalism. And most people who question capitalism don't work in finance. Aniket Shah does both — which turns out to be a very useful position to occupy. For more than a decade, he’s been making an argument most of his industry considers fringe: that markets don't drive economies, governments do; and that the state of capitalism isn't inevitable, it's a choice — and understanding how we got here reveals things could be different. On 17 March 2026 — a week after our conversation — the World Bank published a landmark reversal on industrial policy. It said, more or less, the same thing Aniket’s been saying for years. Our conversation is about what it takes to hold a position when the consensus is against you, how to read the world's largest economic shifts before they show up in the data, and why the most interesting analyst at one of the world's biggest investment banks sounds, occasionally, like a philosopher. Aniket leads Washington Policy and Sustainability Research at Jefferies (his team has been ranked number one in the US and Europe), and moves between finance, development, academia and sustainability in a way that makes you wonder why anyone would ever choose between them. Have something to say? I'm all ears. If this conversation meant something to you, share it — it's how the show gets found. And if you'd like to support the work, a paid subscription goes a long way.  Subscribe here Want more between essays and episodes? Check out Below the Fold — shorter dispatches on the stories worth paying attention to, from the people in my own backyard to the forces reshaping the wider world. Watch clips and video previews on YouTube  Credits: Host: Meredith Ogilvie-Thompson Sound Editing: Dax Krishna and the team at SpeechDocs Music: Ilya Kuznetsov

    56 min
  7. Cracks in the Edifice

    Feb 12

    Cracks in the Edifice

    In Conversation with Michael Power. America is not behind on AI. It’s fighting the wrong war entirely. Michael Power spent more than thirty years as a global strategist at Ninety-One (formerly Investec Asset Management), advising investors and governments on the shifting architecture of capital — his worldview shaped by questioning the assumptions most people take for granted, including the ones buried in language itself. When he traced the etymology of the word economics and found that both — despite one being Mycenaean Greek and one Carthaginian — converge on pasture, he built a framework for reading capital the way nomads read terrain. The trick being to always leave before the grass runs out. It was that instinct — to search for the story underneath the story, to see the world from vantage points the West routinely ignores — that led him to China, AI and, eventually, a conclusion most of his peers had rejected. The US is building cathedrals while China is weaving a nervous system. And only one of those strategies scales. Our conversation was recorded six weeks before Anthropic released new tools that spooked investors and hammered software stocks. Bloomberg reported nearly a trillion dollars wiped off in a week. Microsoft fell despite beating earnings. The market is now asking which companies can survive AI disruption — while Michael’s thesis about the cracks in the edifice plays out in real time. Have something to say? I'm all ears. If this conversation meant something to you, share it — it's how the show gets found. And if you'd like to support the work, a paid subscription goes a long way.  Subscribe here Want more between essays and episodes? Check out Below the Fold — shorter dispatches on the stories worth paying attention to, from the people in my own backyard to the forces reshaping the wider world. Watch clips and video previews on YouTube  Credits: Host: Meredith Ogilvie-Thompson Sound Editing: Dax Krishna and the team at SpeechDocs Music: Ilya Kuznetsov

    42 min

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Conversations with people changing the world. Not the usual suspects. Not the usual questions. New episodes drop the first and third Tuesday of the month. Hosted by award-winning journalist Meredith Ogilvie-Thompson.