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Every day, women navigate the most consequential real estate decisions of their lives - in the middle of a divorce, in the fog of grief after losing a parent, in the pressure of a probate proceeding - nobody prepared them for.   Most of them do it alone, without the right information, without the right counsel, and without anyone in their corner who is working specifically for their outcome.Wealth, War, and Real Estate  exists to change that. Hosted by Alexis Nassif, DRE#00778778 - CIPS - Broker Associate at Compass - 45 years in luxury real estate, with more market cycles, probate proceedings, divorce settlements, and estate transfers behind her then she can count,  &  Dame Natalie Francine, KM luxury real estate strategist, and advocate for women building generational wealth, this show is the conversation the industry has never had.  Openly.    Specifically.    For you. The war in Wealth, War, and Real Estate is real.  It is the probate court where  estates are depleted while families fight.  It is the divorce proceeding where the marital home becomes a battlefield.  It is the wealth transfer where $124 trillion is changing hands and 70% of inherited wealth is gone by the second generation -  not because of errors or carelessness, but because no one brought them into the room.This show brings you into the room.Legacy, Luxury, & Life Transitions  |  10 Episodes  |  Season 1  |  Available now.  Market cycles, the true meaning of luxury service, building, generational, wealth, the female advantage in real estate negotiation, divorce, probate, the great wealth transfer, and the stories from 45 years at the table that no real estate manual has ever told. COMING SOON:  Celebrity Estate Interrupted  |  12 Episodes  |  Limited Series  |  In Production. A special series dropping between Season 1 and Season 2 . 12 true crime style episodes covering the most cautionary celebrity estate battles in history.   Michael Jackson. Aretha Franklin. Prince. Tupac. Stan Lee. Tony Bennett and more. Real Cases. Real money. Real warnings.    The Inner Circle  |  8 episodes  |  Season 2  |  In Production. California tax strategy, gray divorce, trust architecture, predator tactics, prenups and legacy planning.  The conversation the industry really hoped you'd never have. The Power Table  |  8 episodes  |  Season 3  | Currently in development.  The $124 trillion update, the windows war, the single woman buyer, the millennial inheritance, luxury decoupling, AI and your wealth, and the framework for earning your seat at the table where the real decisions are made. Every episode ends with the most important question in this business. What do you want your Real Estate to do for you in 20 years?     For women.      By women.     For the women who came here ready.

  1. 1d ago

    The Federal Backdoor | Ray Charles Estate | E7 | Volume l

    Welcome to Celebrity Estate Interrupted — the special series from Wealth, War & Real Estate where The Oracle and The Architect open the vault on the celebrity estates that changed the law, divided families, and left fortunes in the hands of courtrooms instead of the people they were built for. He brought his twelve children together. He explained his plan. He had them sign documents waiving any further claim to his estate. He gave each of them $500,000. He thought he had closed every door. He had not counted on the federal backdoor built into the 1976 Copyright Act. In Episode 7 of Celebrity Estate Interrupted, The Oracle and The Architect open the case of Ray Charles — the Genius of Soul, twelve children by ten women, and the estate plan that was airtight on paper and completely overridable by federal law. The termination right that cannot be signed away. The foundation that was supposed to receive everything. And the litigation that has run for over twenty years and is still not fully resolved. What we cover: What Ray Charles actually planned — the $500,000 trusts, the waivers, and the Ray Charles Foundation Section 203 of the 1976 Copyright Act — the federal backdoor that no contract can close How seven of his twelve children filed copyright termination notices on fifty-one of his songs — including Georgia on My Mind What the litigation has looked like for over twenty years — and why it still is not over Why estate planning for artists, creators, and anyone with intellectual property requires specialized copyright counsel — not just a standard trust The one action every woman needs to take this week The 20-year question: Do you own any intellectual property — music, creative work, a business you built — and does your estate plan specifically address what happens to it under federal law, not just under your will? Celebrity Estate Interrupted Volume I — new episodes every Wednesday at 5AM through August 5, 2026. Hosted by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS, Broker Associate at Compass · Dame Natalie Francinne, KM · AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group at Compass · Studio City, CA · wealthwarandrealestate.com For Women. By Women. What's your 20 year question? 📩 Connect With Us Email: team@wealthwarandrealestate.com 🎙️ Subscribe & Listen Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | iHeartRadio | Podchaser ⭐ Leave a Review Love the show? Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts — it helps other women find this conversation. 📲 Share This Episode Know a woman navigating a divorce, an inheritance, or a real estate decision right now? Send her this episode. It might change everything. 🌐 AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group Presented by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS & Dame Natalie Francinne, KM Wealth, War and Real Estate is for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, financial, or real estate advice. Always consult a qualified professional for your specific situation.

    24 min

  2. Jun 24

    The Secret Amendment | Lisa Marie Presley Estate | E6 | Volume l

    Welcome to Celebrity Estate Interrupted — the special series from Wealth, War & Real Estate where The Oracle and The Architect open the vault on the celebrity estates that changed the law, divided families, and left fortunes in the hands of courtrooms instead of the people they were built for. She updated her trust. She named her daughter as trustee. She signed the amendment in 2016. She just never delivered it to anyone. In Episode 6 of Celebrity Estate Interrupted, The Oracle and The Architect open the case of Lisa Marie Presley — the last Presley, the heir to Graceland, and the woman whose trust amendment sat unsigned in a drawer for seven years while the person it removed had no idea it existed. The amendment that triggered a war between a grandmother and a granddaughter. The settlement that ended it. And the one communication step that would have prevented every moment of it. What we cover: What The Promenade Trust was — and why Lisa Marie updated it in 2016 Why the amendment was never delivered to Priscilla — and what that single failure cost the family The settlement between Priscilla Presley and Riley Keough — the $1 million, the $100K per year, and the burial rights at Graceland What happened to the estate — and how Riley Keough became the sole trustee The communication requirement that every trust amendment must include The one action every woman needs to take this week The 20-year question: Does everyone who needs to know about your estate plan actually know about it — or are there amendments sitting in a drawer that nobody has ever received? Celebrity Estate Interrupted Volume I — new episodes every Wednesday at 5AM through August 5, 2026. Hosted by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS, Broker Associate at Compass · Dame Natalie Francinne, KM · AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group at Compass · Studio City, CA · wealthwarandrealestate.com For Women. By Women. What's your 20 year question? 📩 Connect With Us Email: team@wealthwarandrealestate.com 🎙️ Subscribe & Listen Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | iHeartRadio | Podchaser ⭐ Leave a Review Love the show? Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts — it helps other women find this conversation. 📲 Share This Episode Know a woman navigating a divorce, an inheritance, or a real estate decision right now? Send her this episode. It might change everything. 🌐 AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group Presented by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS & Dame Natalie Francinne, KM Wealth, War and Real Estate is for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, financial, or real estate advice. Always consult a qualified professional for your specific situation.

    29 min

  3. Jun 17

    Deathbed Signature | Shannen Doherty Estate | E5 | Volume l

    Welcome to Celebrity Estate Interrupted — the special series from Wealth, War & Real Estate where The Oracle and The Architect open the vault on the celebrity estates that changed the law, divided families, and left fortunes in the hands of courtrooms instead of the people they were built for. She was fighting cancer and fighting her husband in court at the same time. She signed the divorce settlement on July 12, 2024. Her ex-husband signed on July 13. Shannen Doherty died later that same day. And by November 2024 — he was allegedly refusing to comply with the terms. In Episode 5 of Celebrity Estate Interrupted, The Oracle and The Architect open the case of Shannen Doherty — Brenda Walsh, Prue Halliwell, and the woman who held on long enough to sign the documents that were supposed to protect everything she had left. The settlement she fought for while dying. The Texas property her ex refused to sell for twenty months after her death. And the March 2026 resolution that finally — tentatively — put it to rest. What we cover: How Shannen Doherty navigated a contentious divorce while managing stage four cancer What the settlement required — and what her ex allegedly refused to do The jointly owned $1.5 million Texas property that became the centerpiece of the post-death battle The $50,274 withheld from the hangar sale — and the personal property that was never returned The enforcement provisions every divorce settlement must include for jointly owned real estate The one action every woman needs to take this week The 20-year question: If you died today — is there any property you jointly own with someone who might refuse to cooperate with your estate? And does your plan account for that possibility? Celebrity Estate Interrupted Volume I — new episodes every Wednesday at 5AM through August 5, 2026. Hosted by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS, Broker Associate at Compass · Dame Natalie Francinne, KM · AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group at Compass · Studio City, CA · wealthwarandrealestate.com For Women. By Women. What's your 20 year question? 📩 Connect With Us Email: team@wealthwarandrealestate.com 🎙️ Subscribe & Listen Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | iHeartRadio | Podchaser ⭐ Leave a Review Love the show? Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts — it helps other women find this conversation. 📲 Share This Episode Know a woman navigating a divorce, an inheritance, or a real estate decision right now? Send her this episode. It might change everything. 🌐 AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group Presented by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS & Dame Natalie Francinne, KM Wealth, War and Real Estate is for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, financial, or real estate advice. Always consult a qualified professional for your specific situation.

    29 min
  4. The Empty Box — Matthew Perry’s $120 Million Estate | E4 | Volume l

    Jun 10

    The Empty Box — Matthew Perry’s $120 Million Estate | E4 | Volume l

    Welcome to Celebrity Estate Interrupted — the special series from Wealth, War & Real Estate where The Oracle and The Architect open the vault on the celebrity estates that changed the law, divided families, and left fortunes in the hands of courtrooms instead of the people they were built for. He was worth $120 million. His probate estate was $1.5 million. The difference is a trust called the Alvy Singer Living Trust — and the lesson in what happens when you get it mostly right. Matthew Perry got closer than almost anyone in this series. He had the trust. He had the pour-over will. He had a blind trust for his real estate that kept his homeownership anonymous and out of the public record. He did almost everything right. And a single bank account that was never titled in the trust’s name became a public court record on a $120 million estate. In Episode 4 of Celebrity Estate Interrupted, The Oracle and The Architect examine the case that is different from every other in this series — not a war, not a disaster, not a family torn apart. The Matthew Perry episode is the one where we study what happens when someone gets it mostly right — and what the small mistakes that slipped through can teach every woman building an estate plan today. What we cover: — What the Alvy Singer Living Trust was and how it kept $118.5 million out of probate — The pour-over will — what it does, how it works, and why it is not enough on its own — The blind trust for real estate — how Perry kept his homeownership completely private — The $40 million+ in potential estate tax exposure on a $120 million estate — and what it means — The one bank account that slipped through — and the Heggstad Petition that could have prevented it — Why close is not enough — and the one action every woman needs to take this week The 20-year question:  Is your trust funded? Not created — funded. Is every asset you own titled in the name of your trust? If you closed your eyes right now and your family had to answer that question — could they? Celebrity Estate Interrupted Volume I — new episodes every Wednesday at 5AM through August 5, 2026. Hosted by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS, Broker Associate at Compass · Dame Natalie Francinne, KM · AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group at Compass · Studio City, CA · wealthwarandrealestate.com For Women. By Women.  What's your 20 year question? 📩 Connect With Us Email: team@wealthwarandrealestate.com 🎙️ Subscribe & Listen Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | iHeartRadio | Podchaser ⭐ Leave a Review Love the show? Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts — it helps other women find this conversation. 📲 Share This Episode Know a woman navigating a divorce, an inheritance, or a real estate decision right now? Send her this episode. It might change everything. 🌐 AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group Presented by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS & Dame Natalie Francinne, KM Wealth, War and Real Estate is for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, financial, or real estate advice. Always consult a qualified professional for your specific situation.

    29 min
  5. Couch Will - Aretha Franklin Estate | E3 | Volume l

    Jun 3

    Couch Will - Aretha Franklin Estate | E3 | Volume l

    Welcome to Celebrity Estate Interrupted — the special series from Wealth, War & Real Estate where The Oracle and The Architect open the vault on the celebrity estates that changed the law, divided families, and left fortunes in the hands of courtrooms instead of the people they were built for. She was advised by her attorneys for years to create a proper will. She declined. She was too private to share her wishes with anyone who might tell the world. That privacy cost her family five years of courtroom battles — and made every detail she spent a lifetime protecting a matter of public record. In Episode 3 of Celebrity Estate Interrupted, The Oracle and The Architect open the case of Aretha Franklin — the Queen of Soul, four sons, and the handwritten will found in the cushions of her couch. The spiral notebook. The smiley face signature. The brother against brother war that lasted five years. And the July 2023 verdict that finally put it to rest. What we cover: — What a holographic will actually is — and when it is and is not legally valid — The difference between the 2010 will found in a locked cabinet and the 2014 will found in a couch — Why the document found in a couch cushion governed an $80 million estate — The irony at the heart of this case — she refused a formal will to protect her privacy and lost every bit of it — How a properly funded trust delivers exactly the privacy Aretha Franklin wanted - without the five-year war — The one action every woman needs to take this week The 20-year question:  Are your wishes written down in a document that will actually hold up — or somewhere your family will spend five years trying to prove are valid? Celebrity Estate Interrupted Volume I — new episodes every Wednesday at 5AM through August 5, 2026. Hosted by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS, Broker Associate at Compass · Dame Natalie Francinne, KM · AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group at Compass · Studio City, CA · wealthwarandrealestate.com For Women. By Women.  What's your 20 year question? 📩 Connect With Us Email: team@wealthwarandrealestate.com 🎙️ Subscribe & Listen Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | iHeartRadio | Podchaser ⭐ Leave a Review Love the show? Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts — it helps other women find this conversation. 📲 Share This Episode Know a woman navigating a divorce, an inheritance, or a real estate decision right now? Send her this episode. It might change everything. 🌐 AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group Presented by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS & Dame Natalie Francinne, KM Wealth, War and Real Estate is for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, financial, or real estate advice. Always consult a qualified professional for your specific situation.

    21 min
  6. Civil War - Paris Jackson vs. The Estate of Michel Jackson Part 2 | E2 | Volume l

    May 27

    Civil War - Paris Jackson vs. The Estate of Michel Jackson Part 2 | E2 | Volume l

    Welcome to Celebrity Estate Interrupted — the special series from Wealth, War & Real Estate where The Oracle and The Architect open the vault on the celebrity estates that changed the law, divided families, and left fortunes in the hands of courtrooms instead of the people they were built for. She received $65 million. And she is suing the men who generated the billions it came from. Paris Jackson was eleven years old when her father died. She grew up inside one of the most complicated estate proceedings in American legal history. And in 2025 — at twenty-seven years old — she decided she had seen enough. In Episode 2 of Celebrity Estate Interrupted, The Oracle and The Architect go deeper into the Jackson estate — this time through Paris’s eyes. The beneficiary who became the adversary. The executors who turned $500 million in debt into a $2 billion empire. And the question at the center of every estate war that never makes the headlines: who is the person managing your inheritance actually working for? What we cover: — The full timeline of Paris Jackson’s 2025 lawsuit — filing by filing, allegation by allegation — The mandatory accounting provision — what it is and why its absence is the reason this lawsuit exists — The $150 million biopic and the conflict of interest allegation that goes beyond money — What a fiduciary duty actually means — and what happens when it is breached — The one structural protection that makes the Paris Jackson situation impossible to replicate in your estate — The one action every woman needs to take this week The 20-year question:  If someone else were managing the estate you will one day inherit — how would you know if they were managing it for you or for themselves? Celebrity Estate Interrupted Volume I — new episodes every Wednesday at 5AM through August 5, 2026. Hosted by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS, Broker Associate at Compass · Dame Natalie Francinne, KM · AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group at Compass · Studio City, CA · wealthwarandrealestate.com For Women. By Women.  What's your 20 year question? 📩 Connect With Us Email: team@wealthwarandrealestate.com 🎙️ Subscribe & Listen Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | iHeartRadio | Podchaser ⭐ Leave a Review Love the show? Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts — it helps other women find this conversation. 📲 Share This Episode Know a woman navigating a divorce, an inheritance, or a real estate decision right now? Send her this episode. It might change everything. 🌐 AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group Presented by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS & Dame Natalie Francinne, KM Wealth, War and Real Estate is for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, financial, or real estate advice. Always consult a qualified professional for your specific situation.

    26 min
  7. Unfunded Trust - Michael Jackson Estate Part I | E1 | Volume l

    May 20

    Unfunded Trust - Michael Jackson Estate Part I | E1 | Volume l

    Welcome to Celebrity Estate Interrupted — the special series from Wealth, War & Real Estate where The Oracle and The Architect open the vault on the celebrity estates that changed the law, divided families, and left fortunes in the hands of courtrooms instead of the people they were built for. He had a will. He had a trust. He had the right structure — and the wrong execution. Michael Jackson died on June 25, 2009, more than $500 million in debt. He was the best-selling music artist in the history of recorded sound. He had an estate plan. What he did not have was a funded one — and the difference between those two things is the reason the war over his estate is still being fought in courtrooms nearly two decades after his death. In Episode 1 of Celebrity Estate Interrupted, The Oracle and The Architect open the vault on the case that defines the series. The unfunded trust. The probate that exposed everything. The extraordinary turnaround that turned $500 million in debt into a $3.5 billion estate.  And Paris Jackson’s 2025 lawsuit that proves the war never really ended. What we cover: — What an unfunded trust actually is — and why creating one is not the same as funding one — How a pour-over will works and why it is not enough on its own — What happened to Michael Jackson’s estate from 2009 through 2026 — Paris Jackson’s November 2025 lawsuit — the allegations, the numbers, and what it means — The mandatory accounting provision that makes the Paris Jackson situation impossible — The one action every woman needs to take this week The 20-year question:  Who would be fighting over what you have built if you died today — and is your trust actually funded? Celebrity Estate Interrupted Volume I — dropping every Wednesday at 5AM starting May 20, 2026. Hosted by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS, Broker Associate at Compass · Dame Natalie Francinne, KM · AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group at Compass · Studio City, CA · wealthwarandrealestate.com For Women. By Women.  What's your 20 year question? 📩 Connect With Us Email: team@wealthwarandrealestate.com 🎙️ Subscribe & Listen Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | iHeartRadio | Podchaser ⭐ Leave a Review Love the show? Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts — it helps other women find this conversation. 📲 Share This Episode Know a woman navigating a divorce, an inheritance, or a real estate decision right now? Send her this episode. It might change everything. 🌐 AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group Presented by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS & Dame Natalie Francinne, KM Wealth, War and Real Estate is for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, financial, or real estate advice. Always consult a qualified professional for your specific situation.

    27 min

  8. May 13

    What Comes Next: Vision, Legacy & Guidance | E10 | Legacy, Luxury, & Life Transitions | S1 |

    Ten episodes. One season. One curriculum built specifically for the women who needed it most — and who came here ready. In the Season 1 finale, Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS delivers the message she has been building toward for 45 years — spoken directly to every woman who listened, who took notes, who made the call, who started the conversation she had been avoiding. The room is yours. Walk in prepared. Season 2: The Inner Circle is coming. Eight episodes going deeper into the conversations that happen behind closed doors — the California Tax War, Gray Divorce, Trust Architecture, The Hidden Estate, The Predator’s Playbook, The Prenup Conversation, and Legacy on Your Terms. The foundation is built. Season 2 is the advanced curriculum. If this season changed how you think about real estate — share it. Send this episode to one woman who is navigating a divorce, an inheritance, or a real estate decision right now. That share is the most powerful thing you can do. Season 1: Legacy, Luxury & Life Transitions Hosted by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS & Dame Natalie Francinne, KM AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group at Compass  wealthwarandrealestate.com wealthwarandrealestate.substack.com team@wealthwarandrealestate.com linktr.ee/wealthwarandrealestate #WealthWarRealEstate #GenerationalWealth #WomenAndWealth #RealEstate #ForWomenByWomen #SeasonFinale #LegacyLuxuryLifeTransitions What's your 20 year question? 📩 Connect With Us Email: team@wealthwarandrealestate.com 🎙️ Subscribe & Listen Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music | iHeartRadio | Podchaser ⭐ Leave a Review Love the show? Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts — it helps other women find this conversation. 📲 Share This Episode Know a woman navigating a divorce, an inheritance, or a real estate decision right now? Send her this episode. It might change everything. 🌐 AN & Associates Luxury Real Estate Group Presented by Alexis Nassif, DRE# 00778778, CIPS & Dame Natalie Francinne, KM Wealth, War and Real Estate is for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, financial, or real estate advice. Always consult a qualified professional for your specific situation.

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Every day, women navigate the most consequential real estate decisions of their lives - in the middle of a divorce, in the fog of grief after losing a parent, in the pressure of a probate proceeding - nobody prepared them for.   Most of them do it alone, without the right information, without the right counsel, and without anyone in their corner who is working specifically for their outcome.Wealth, War, and Real Estate  exists to change that. Hosted by Alexis Nassif, DRE#00778778 - CIPS - Broker Associate at Compass - 45 years in luxury real estate, with more market cycles, probate proceedings, divorce settlements, and estate transfers behind her then she can count,  &  Dame Natalie Francine, KM luxury real estate strategist, and advocate for women building generational wealth, this show is the conversation the industry has never had.  Openly.    Specifically.    For you. The war in Wealth, War, and Real Estate is real.  It is the probate court where  estates are depleted while families fight.  It is the divorce proceeding where the marital home becomes a battlefield.  It is the wealth transfer where $124 trillion is changing hands and 70% of inherited wealth is gone by the second generation -  not because of errors or carelessness, but because no one brought them into the room.This show brings you into the room.Legacy, Luxury, & Life Transitions  |  10 Episodes  |  Season 1  |  Available now.  Market cycles, the true meaning of luxury service, building, generational, wealth, the female advantage in real estate negotiation, divorce, probate, the great wealth transfer, and the stories from 45 years at the table that no real estate manual has ever told. COMING SOON:  Celebrity Estate Interrupted  |  12 Episodes  |  Limited Series  |  In Production. A special series dropping between Season 1 and Season 2 . 12 true crime style episodes covering the most cautionary celebrity estate battles in history.   Michael Jackson. Aretha Franklin. Prince. Tupac. Stan Lee. Tony Bennett and more. Real Cases. Real money. Real warnings.    The Inner Circle  |  8 episodes  |  Season 2  |  In Production. California tax strategy, gray divorce, trust architecture, predator tactics, prenups and legacy planning.  The conversation the industry really hoped you'd never have. The Power Table  |  8 episodes  |  Season 3  | Currently in development.  The $124 trillion update, the windows war, the single woman buyer, the millennial inheritance, luxury decoupling, AI and your wealth, and the framework for earning your seat at the table where the real decisions are made. Every episode ends with the most important question in this business. What do you want your Real Estate to do for you in 20 years?     For women.      By women.     For the women who came here ready.

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