Laura & Leonie's Systemic Stories: Practice & Possibilities

Leonie White & Laura Hawkins
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Our hope and vision is that this podcast will help us grow family therapy in Australia by sharing the love of systemic therapy and practice, highlighting how it can be used in so many different services, settings and roles and showcasing how it looks on the ground in real life. Our podcast is called “Systemic Stories: Practice and Possibilities” and our goal is to have relaxed conversations with a range of professionals who operate from or incorporate a systemic lens in their practice. We will be chatting to guests from a range of professional settings who draw on systemic thinking and systemic family therapy in their practice.  We will be sharing real-life stories about what systemic practice looks like, the challenges practitioners face, how practitioners find a little "in" even in tricky settings, key learnings on bringing systemic practice into their field, and tips for other practitioners to consider. This podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories. Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People. Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People. Acknowledgement of Country We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation. Please note:  This podcast is educational in nature and does not constitute therapy advice or professional supervision.  Please seek help from an independent professional tailored to your individual needs if you require support.

Episodes

  1. 4D AGO

    Michael Derby from Anchor Point Therapy

    In this 3rd installment of Systemic Stories, Leonie and Laura interview Michael Derby from Anchor Point Therapy in Geelong, Victoria.  We learn about:  Michael's first introduction to systemic practiceHearing stories of Michael's experience working with trauma, harm and shame as a family therapistPractical tips, frameworks and ideas on working with harm and shame with an individual, a family and the wider systemThe intentional stance of the therapist, including the importance of understanding our own family of origin influencesHelpful ideas on using the Exploring Shame therapeutic card setPractical tips for other family therapists and clinicians working with trauma, harm and shameThis podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories. Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People.  Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People. Acknowledgement of Country We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation. Edit This Episode Episode is Live Published: Apr. 11, 2026 @ 3PM Edit Transcript is Ready Auto Generated • Edit or Add Custom Add Chapter Markers Create a Visual Soundbite Mid-Roll Placements Share Link to Episode Episode Share URLCopy Direct Link to Audio Copy This podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories. Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People.  Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People. Acknowledgement of Country We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation.

    43 min

  2. APR 11

    Dr Kerri Webb & Jordana Rigby from ARBRE Developmental Pediatrics and Family Therapies

    In this second episode of Systemic Stories, Leonie and Laura interview Dr. Kerri-Lyn Webb and Jordana Rigby from Arbre Developmental Paediatrics and Family Therapies.  We learn about:  Dr. Kerri and Jordana's journey into systemic practiceWorking with a systemic framework from the therapy room to business processesSystemic family therapy and developmental diagnoses - how we can hold both together in practiceThe challenges in building a developmental service using an integrated and systemic frameworkWhat has been helpful on the journey of systemic practice in this settingTop tips for other family therapists and clinicians working in developmental paediatrics This podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories. Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People.  Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People. Acknowledgement of Country We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation.

    45 min

  3. MAR 26

    What is "Systemic Stories"?

    In this first episode of Systemic Stories, you will meet Laura and Leonie and find out: Where we are fromHow we got into systemic practiceHow systemic practice fits with our "disciplines of origin" (Occupational Therapy and Psychology)Why we created the podcastWhat our hopes are for the podcast What to expect in future episodesThis podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories. Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People.  Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People. Acknowledgement of Country We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation.

    14 min
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About

Our hope and vision is that this podcast will help us grow family therapy in Australia by sharing the love of systemic therapy and practice, highlighting how it can be used in so many different services, settings and roles and showcasing how it looks on the ground in real life. Our podcast is called “Systemic Stories: Practice and Possibilities” and our goal is to have relaxed conversations with a range of professionals who operate from or incorporate a systemic lens in their practice. We will be chatting to guests from a range of professional settings who draw on systemic thinking and systemic family therapy in their practice.  We will be sharing real-life stories about what systemic practice looks like, the challenges practitioners face, how practitioners find a little "in" even in tricky settings, key learnings on bringing systemic practice into their field, and tips for other practitioners to consider. This podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories. Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People. Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People. Acknowledgement of Country We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation. Please note:  This podcast is educational in nature and does not constitute therapy advice or professional supervision.  Please seek help from an independent professional tailored to your individual needs if you require support.

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