System Logic

Jason Lee

The System Logic Podcast is the definitive deep-dive into the technical and human architecture of modern healthcare. Hosted by Jason Lee, we move past the buzzwords to investigate the three pillars defining the future of the industry: 🏥 The Heart of Administration: Why the back office is the new front line. ⚖️ Physician Compensation Logic: Decoding the math and transparency required to restore trust. 🤖Technology: A practical look at the technologies, like AI, actually executing tasks in 2026.

  1. 12h ago

    Turning Healthcare Transactions into Long-Term Relationships to Boost Referrals | Moses Hohman CEO Flare Health

    In this episode, host Jason Lee sits down with Moses Hohman, CEO of Flare Health, to discuss how software and AI are modernizing physician referral management. Moses outlines how information asymmetry creates severe specialist bottlenecks and explains how Flare Health transforms transactional referral handoffs into collaborative, long-term provider relationships. Key Takeaways Most physicians maintain an active working mental registry of only 20 to 50 trusted colleagues, leading to severe misdirection of specialty referrals and bloated wait times. Automated inbound fax processing powered by in-house AI models reduces manual transcription burdens by 80%, instantly converting static paper orders into actionable EHR work queues. Streamlining outside provider communications and enabling "first available" routing drives up to 31% year-over-year increases in referral conversions from community physicians. Thank you toour sponsor Simpliphy, Inc. If you've got a question or an idea for a podcast topic email us at social@systemlogicpodcast.com. #HealthTech#HealthcareTechnology #HealthcareInnovation #HealthcareIndustry #SystemLogic#ValueBasedCare @systemlogicpodcast

  2. Oct 27

    The Hidden Compliance Risks Threatening AI Deployment in Healthcare Systems | ft. Grace Hernandez (Buckelew Programs)

    Drawing on over 25 years of healthcare administration experience and a legal education in health law, Grace discusses the evolving dynamics of healthcare education, workforce readiness, and risk management. The conversation dives deep into the integration of real-world case studies in academic settings and explores the compliance, privacy, and governance guardrails necessary as AI technologies enter administrative and clinical workflows. Key Takeaways Bridging Theory and Practice: Effective healthcare administration education requires moving beyond textbook theory to incorporate real-world case studies and practical risk-evaluation scenarios. Cross-Departmental Governance: Compliance and risk management must not operate in isolation; effective governance requires cross-departmental collaboration to mitigate operational and privacy risks. Human-In-The-Loop AI Validation: While AI can streamline administrative overhead and synthesize large volumes of regulatory data, leaders must maintain strict verification processes to prevent data leaks and hallucinations. Thank you to our sponsor ⁠Simpliphy, Inc.⁠ If you've got a question or an idea for a podcast topic email us at social@systemlogicpodcast.com. Find us wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.

  3. Oct 20

    Why Operational AI Is a Force Multiplier Rather Than Mere Headcount Reduction | Jacob Luria

    Jacob Luria, Co-Founder and CEO of N1 Health, shares how integrating non-clinical consumer data with health plan infrastructure creates personalized member engagement, cuts overhead, and drives measurable business value. He also outlines the governance, ethical principles, and hands-on training frameworks required to successfully deploy AI native tools in regulated healthcare environments. Key Takeaways Decades-old infrastructure in eligibility, claims, and billing acts as a massive administrative tax on health plans, creating prime opportunities for end-to-end modern tech stack displacement. Measuring AI ROI solely through operating expense or workforce reductions is flawed; AI drives higher throughput and quality while requiring continuous operational investment alongside human operators. Deploying predictive AI at scale requires firm organizational principles—such as restricting AI to non-clinical navigation, ensuring positive-only service expansion, and vetting models against academic bias frameworks. Thank you to our sponsor Simpliphy, Inc. If you've got a question or an idea for a podcast topic email us at social@systemlogicpodcast.com. Find us wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.

  4. Oct 13

    Why Healthcare Financial Incentives Consistently Produce Broken Outcomes | Dr. Patrick Aguilar

    Dr. Patrick Aguilar, practicing pulmonologist, former Chief Medical Officer, and Managing Director of Health at the WashU Olin Business School. Dr. Aguilar breaks down why healthcare system outcomes are often unpredictable and frustrating, demonstrating how understanding underlying financial incentives reveals system behaviors. He also explores strategies for training future health leaders, integrating AI into educational curricula, and preparing organizations for shifting reimbursement models. Key Takeaways Understanding Incentive Structures: Healthcare outcomes become predictable and manageable once the underlying financial flows, payment models, and organizational incentives across sectors are clearly understood. Teaching Integrated AI Usage: Modern business and medical education must move beyond basic prompting to train future leaders in challenging AI outputs, exercising human judgment, and managing liability. Evaluating Health-Tech Viability: Sustainable health-tech adoption depends on solving systemic operational burdens and delivering clear economic value, rather than merely automating isolated steps. Thank you to our sponsor Simpliphy, Inc. If you've got a question or an idea for a podcast topic email us at social@systemlogicpodcast.com. Find us wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.

  5. Oct 7

    SLP - Welcome to Season 2

    Welcome to another season of System Logic Podcast. We will be exploring how technology companies are impacting the industry and how graduate programs are preparing the next generation of leaders.

  6. Season 1 Trailer

    System Logic - Season Ending Message

    System Logic Season 1 is in the books and we'll be back int he fall with more conversations that you'll love. You can listen to all the episodes this season, including the Hot Comp challenge Mini-series and follow up on Instgram, LInkedin, and all the socials. Until next season!

  7. Jul 6

    System Logic - S1E11 - M&A News with Jared Steele

    Executive Summary: In this special news edition of the System Logic Podcast, host Jason Lee and co-host Jared Steele unpack the dramatic resurgence of healthcare mergers, acquisitions, and strategic divestitures in 2026. The conversation evaluates how multi-billion-dollar cross-market consolidations, regional geographic expansions, and asset pruning directly reshape back-office operations, health plan negotiations, and medical group infrastructure. Key Takeaways M&A Deal Volume Rebounds to Pre-Pandemic Highs: Announced healthcare transactions reached 22 in Q1 2026, marking a significant market rebound to activity levels not seen since Q1 2020. Shift from Roll-Ups to Mega-System Consolidations: The historical era of small independent practice roll-ups has given way to multi-state, multi-billion-dollar health system pairings aimed at achieving mega-system volume. Strategic Divestitures Over General Expansion: Modern health networks are executing deliberate asset pruning, offloading under-scaled outposts to focus exclusively on highly defensible core regional hubs. Physician Enterprises Remain Autonomously Insulated: While revenue cycle frameworks and corporate branding shift rapidly during a merger, individual provider contracts and localized funds-flow remain highly stable.

  8. Jun 29

    System Logic - S1E10 - Marley Nacey, Dir of Finance Sentara Health, Hot Comp Challenge

    Executive Summary: Live from the AAPCP Annual Conference in Nashville, Tennessee, host Jason Lee and Simpliphy colleague Dan Iliff interview Marley Nacey, Compensation Leader at Sentara Healthcare, to break down the complexities of physician and advanced practice provider (APP) compensation architecture. The discussion highlights the critical need to educate providers on total cash compensation over single-survey benchmarks, the operational realities of decoupling downstream hospital revenue from provider pay, and strategies to mitigate physician burnout through proactive clinical leadership. Key Takeaways The Primacy of Total Cash Compensation: Healthcare leaders must educate physicians away from isolated work RVU (wRVU) rates and focus them on total cash compensation and the comprehensive work effort required to achieve it. Decoupling Downstream Revenue: To maintain regulatory compliance and operational sanity, health systems must firmly separate price transparency and downstream hospital service-line revenue from individual provider compensation discussions. The "Physician Champion" Onboarding Model: Integrating clinical leaders as peer mentors during onboarding provides new hires with realistic expectations regarding schedules, templates, and call burdens, directly curbing early-career burnout. The wRVU Transition Headwind: While removing wRVU metrics from APP and physician models could theoretically improve team-based care, doing so remains a massive structural challenge because wRVUs have been deeply ingrained in administrative and provider mindsets since the 1990s. Want to listen to all of the Hot Comp Challenge? Access the full playlist here.

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The System Logic Podcast is the definitive deep-dive into the technical and human architecture of modern healthcare. Hosted by Jason Lee, we move past the buzzwords to investigate the three pillars defining the future of the industry: 🏥 The Heart of Administration: Why the back office is the new front line. ⚖️ Physician Compensation Logic: Decoding the math and transparency required to restore trust. 🤖Technology: A practical look at the technologies, like AI, actually executing tasks in 2026.

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  • Creator
    Jason Lee
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    17
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Jason Lee
  • Show Website
    System Logic

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