ChatGMB: Wisdom & Insights for Modern Leaders

Marissa Badgley

ChatGMB: Wisdom & Insights for Modern Leaders is a podcast production of Reloveution, designed for leaders, managers, and changemakers who are looking for insight, tools, perspective, and real talk about topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. Some "episodes" are long-form audio "workshops", some are honest conversations with like-hearted people I respect and admire (or maybe even disagree with), and some are short, casual hot take episodes on the leadership and workplace culture topics/challenges that come up again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work. You can expect stories, tools, venting, brutal honesty, lots of standing on soapboxes, and so much more. Sample Episodes- How to Support Your Team During a Looming Restructure- What to Do When Your Boss Doesn't Care About Your Goals- Burnout, Compassion Fatigue & Vicarious Trauma, OH MY- Giving Effective Feedback- Interrupting Real & Perceived Scarcity at Work- Receiving Feedback Without Falling Apart- Series - Let's Talk About Layoffs: The Good, the Bad & The UglyAbout the ShowGMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). Think of this as the real human alternative: honest chatter, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies for leaders who care.Note for ListenersI (Marissa) am trying to let go of all the tugs to make this perfectly (or at all) scripted, and want to use this as a space to riff and play. There is no editing; just me (and sometimes others) talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light or fire me up. This is an experiment that might shift over time.

  1. Sep 3

    The Concrete Is Never Set: Paul D. Daugherty on Feedback, Catalytic Giving, and the Long Game of Leadership

    Our Summer Guest Series continues with this inspiring conversation with Paul D. Daugherty about community, philanthropy, and what it means to lead with humility in a moment when everything is moving fast and the stakes couldn't be higher. Paul Daugherty is the CEO of Exponent Philanthropy, the country's largest philanthropy leadership organization, serving over 1,400 funders across all 50 states. But long before he held that title, he was a kid from Doddridge County, West Virginia, a community that had generated enormous wealth for the country through oil, gas, coal, and steel, and seen almost none of that wealth stay behind. Paul grew up watching people solve real problems with scarce resources, leaning on faith communities, creativity, and each other. In this conversation, Paul walks us through his origin story, from founding community organizations as a teenager, to running his first foundation in his early twenties, to leading Philanthropy West Virginia for 12 years, to taking the helm at Exponent just as the sector was emerging from a pandemic and a prolonged leadership transition. We dig into what it means to lead with humility (not as a soft skill, but as a strategic one), how he's built a feedback culture at Exponent since our training together, the difference between philanthropy with a big P and a little p, and why lean funders (the ones with limited staff but deep community roots) are often the most catalytic partners. Tune in to hear: Paul's origin story of growing up in Appalachia, benefiting from philanthropy as a kid, and realizing at a young age that his community didn't lack ideas, but investmentWhat "possibitarianism" means and why it's been his operating philosophy since he was a teenagerHow he went from founding nonprofits in North Central West Virginia to running the country's largest philanthropy leadership networkWhat lean philanthropy looks like and why lean funders are often the most innovative, community-rooted partners in the ecosystemThe difference between philanthropy with a big P (institutional, high-asset) and a little p (in community, in place, in relationship)Why philanthropy's job is not to fill the void, but to be an innovator and capacity builderWhat happens when people think philanthropy can replace government funding (and why it mathematically cannot)His four-part model for catalytic philanthropy: connect, convene, collaborate, and championWhat it means to lead with humility, and why two ears and one mouth is still the best leadership advice he's ever receivedHow he's built feedback into Exponent's culture since our trainingWhy "the concrete is never set as a leader" and what it means to keep growing instead of hardening About Paul D. Daugherty: Paul D. Daugherty is a champion of civil society and building stronger communities, guided by the belief that when philanthropy partners, communities prosper. Before leading Exponent Philanthropy, he served as President and CEO of Philanthropy West Virginia for 12 years, where he doubled membership, advanced major state and federal public policy, and co-founded the state's first nonprofit association. In his early twenties, he became the CEO of a lean foundation and has since served on every side of the table in the nonprofit and philanthropic world, as staff, board member, and advisor. His work has spanned community development, hunger and housing justice, economic diversification, and nonprofit capacity building, and he is the founder of Generation West Virginia and the WV Family Nutrition Program, among other community initiatives. He is a Presidential Leadership Scholar, a proud graduate of West Virginia Wesleyan College, and a lifelong Appalachian, originally from Doddridge County, West Virginia. He lives in Western Pennsylvania with his family. Connect with Paul and Exponent Philanthropy: Website: Exponent PhilanthropyLinkedIn: Paul D. DaughertyReport: The Hows and Whys of Multiyear General Operating Support ChatGMB: Wisdom & Insights for Modern Leaders is produced for leaders, managers, and changemakers seeking insight, tools, perspective, and real talk on topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. There is no fancy editing or over-polished scripting. Tune in to hear me in all my imperfection, talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light me up or set me on fire. If you like what you hear and want more wisdom and insights for your journey, sign up for our weekly-ish newsletter!! Have a question you'd like us to answer in a future episode? Submit questions (anonymous welcome) HERE. ChatGMB is a production of Reloveution, a consulting and professional development services provider that leverages the magic of humanity to strengthen teams, deepen leadership impact, and catalyze professional well-being. From facilitating team retreats to leading leadership development programs to robust advisory services, we help you build the emotional and cultural conditions for human thriving AND exemplary business outcomes. Learn more at www.truereloveution.com You might also be interested in our focused conflict transformation practice RepairWorks. When tension rises, communication breaks down, or trust is broken, RepairWorks provides mediation, facilitated dialogue, advisory services, and training to help individuals, workplaces, teams, and established communities move through and transform conflict with clarity, accountability, and humanity. Learn more at www.conflictrepairworks.com About the Show GMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). Think of this as the human alternative: honest real talk, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies on the specific leadership and culture topics that surface again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work.

  2. Aug 28

    Not Right Now Is Not the Same as Never: Allison Williams on Community, Hope, and Saying Yes When It Counts

    Our Summer Guest Series continues with one of the most personal episodes of the season. Allison Williams is President and CEO of Wyman, a St. Louis-based youth development organization on a mission to connect teens to their voices, their strengths, and their futures through proven programs. Allison was also Marissa's practicum supervisor in graduate school and someone Marissa regularly cites as one of the greatest leaders she has ever worked with, and as someone who models compassionate accountability better than almost anyone. Allison joined Wyman as a camp counselor in 1993 and worked her way up to President and CEO three years ago, three decades after that first summer. This episode is part origin story, part leadership masterclass, and part honest reckoning with what it costs and takes to lead an organization through one of the hardest periods in the nonprofit sector's recent history. Tune in to hear: The people who believed in Allison before she believed in herselfWhat kept her at one organization for nearly 30 years (mission, people, and always a new challenge)Wyman's evolution from a summer camp founded in 1898 to a three-program, research-backed youth development organization serving more than 25,000 young people across the countryWhy saying "not right now" to the CEO role was the most empowering decision Allison ever madeWhat the last three years in executive leadership have taught her that the previous 30 couldn'tDealing with ambiguity as a core leadership competency, and the best ideas often live in the gray areaThe practices and mantras that anchor her through chaosWhy being CEO is "not an I job," and what it looks like to lead with and through your team, your board, and your communityHer three benchmarks for anyone considering executive leadership: know the role for real, know your strengths, and know your villageHow to stay authentic, stay grounded, stay connected, and always stay hopeful Connect with Allison and Wyman: Website: wymancenter.orgLearn more about the Teen Connection Project and help them reach 100k young people: https://wymancenter.org/national-network/tcp/Donate to Allison's campaign for Peddle the Cause, a cancer research fundraiser in St. Louis: https://www.givesignup.org/kawilliams Resources Mentioned: CliftonStrengths / StrengthsFinderAtlas of the Heart, Brené Brown Call to Action! More than 2,200 teens across the country have found connection, support, and belonging through the Teen Connection Project, and Wyman is dedicated to bringing this program to thousands more nationwide. Today’s teens face serious challenges with loneliness and social disconnection. TCP helps young people build strong relationships, use their voices, and feel less alone. The goal is bold and urgent: to reach more than 100,000 teens across the country. Interested in being part of the expansion? Learn more and share with the youth development champions you know: https://wymancenter.org/national-network/tcp/ ChatGMB: Wisdom & Insights for Modern Leaders is produced for leaders, managers, and changemakers seeking insight, tools, perspective, and real talk on topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. There is no fancy editing or over-polished scripting. Tune in to hear me in all my imperfection, talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light me up or set me on fire. If you like what you hear and want more wisdom and insights for your journey, sign up for our weekly-ish newsletter!! Have a question you'd like us to answer in a future episode? Submit questions (anonymous welcome) HERE. ChatGMB is a production of Reloveution, a consulting and professional development services provider that leverages the magic of humanity to strengthen teams, deepen leadership impact, and catalyze professional well-being. From facilitating team retreats to leading leadership development programs to robust advisory services, we help you build the emotional and cultural conditions for human thriving AND exemplary business outcomes. Learn more at www.truereloveution.com You might also be interested in our focused conflict transformation practice RepairWorks. When tension rises, communication breaks down, or trust is broken, RepairWorks provides mediation, facilitated dialogue, advisory services, and training to help individuals, workplaces, teams, and established communities move through and transform conflict with clarity, accountability, and humanity. Learn more at www.conflictrepairworks.com About the Show GMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). Think of this as the human alternative: honest real talk, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies on the specific leadership and culture topics that surface again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work.

  3. Aug 5

    I Built My Own Culture: Natalia Sanyal on Belonging, Movement Building, and Humanity-First Marketing

    Our Summer Guest Series continues with this rich, honest, and vulnerable conversation with Natalia Sanyal, a humanity-first marketer, brand messaging strategist, conversion copywriter, first-gen immigrant, 3rd-gen entrepreneur, and overall incredible human.  Today, we're exploring the thing most leaders and mission-driven founders dread: marketing themselves. But Natalia is not here to sell you another framework or growth hack. She's here to make the case that humanity-first marketing is not just more ethical, but more effective and supportive. Natalia has spent more than a decade in marketing, working with brands like Apple, Lululemon, and Glennon Doyle, before leaving the agency world because she was tired of the manipulation. She went out on her own, built a personal brand on LinkedIn entirely through authentic content, and launched a program called Get Embodied that sold out every time she ran it. And then she didn't sell it again for three years, because her nervous system wasn't ready for how well it went. She's building it again now, which is its own kind of lesson. We cover a lot of ground in this episode, including what movement messaging is and why the brands that use it outperform the ones that don't, the critical difference between a movement and a cult, why viral posts and massive followings don't automatically translate to income, what the nervous system has to do with pressing publish, and why selling (when it's done right) is actually a service, not a violation. Tune in to hear: How Natalia went from selling hand-sewn tutus online to building a marketing practice for mission-driven foundersWhy she left the agency world, and the manipulation tactics she refused to keep usingWhat movement messaging is, why it works, and what Apple, Nike, and Obama all have in commonThe critical difference between a movement and a cult: agency at every stageThe truth about followers and income: why 100K followers is not a business or marketing planWhy Natalia celebrated 100 Instagram followersThe Get Embodied story: a $100K launch, a freaked-out founder, and three years of not selling it againWhy "share your scars, not your wounds" is her content philosophyThe nervous system cost of visibility, including why pressing post is dysregulating, and what to do about itThe reframe that changed the conversation: selling is a service, and withholding your offer is a disserviceWhat it means to be a first-generation immigrant who found belonging in her business About Natalia Sanyal: Natalia Sanyal is a humanity-first Marketer, brand messaging strategist, and conversion copywriter who helps mission-driven founders turn their personal brand into a business asset with strategy, self-expression, and nervous system regulation built in. She has more than a decade of marketing experience working with brands like Apple, Lululemon, and Glennon Doyle, and is the creator of Get Embodied, a multi-month cohort that helps founders clarify their message and build it into a movement. Born in Pakistan to a Pakistani father and Filipino mother and raised in Canada, Natalia is a first-generation immigrant and third-generation entrepreneur who found belonging by building her own culture through her business. Connect with Natalia: Instagram: @NataliaSanyal — her most active platform and the best place to find out when Get Embodied launchesLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliasanyal/ ChatGMB: Wisdom & Insights for Modern Leaders is produced for leaders, managers, and changemakers seeking insight, tools, perspective, and real talk on topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. There is no fancy editing or over-polished scripting. Tune in to hear me in all my imperfection, talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light me up or set me on fire. If you like what you hear and want more wisdom and insights for your journey, sign up for our weekly-ish newsletter!! Have a question you'd like us to answer in a future episode? Submit questions (anonymous welcome) HERE. ChatGMB is a production of Reloveution, a consulting and professional development services provider that leverages the magic of humanity to strengthen teams, deepen leadership impact, and catalyze professional well-being. From facilitating team retreats to leading leadership development programs to robust advisory services, we help you build the emotional and cultural conditions for human thriving AND exemplary business outcomes. Learn more at www.truereloveution.com You might also be interested in our focused conflict transformation practice RepairWorks. When tension rises, communication breaks down, or trust is broken, RepairWorks provides mediation, facilitated dialogue, advisory services, and training to help individuals, workplaces, teams, and established communities move through and transform conflict with clarity, accountability, and humanity. Learn more at www.conflictrepairworks.com About the Show GMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). Think of this as the human alternative: honest real talk, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies on the specific leadership and culture topics that surface again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work.

  4. Aug 3

    Stop Fixing Everything: Lorena Martinez on Self-Awareness, Humility, and Learning to Trust Yourself

    Our Summer Guest Series continues with a conversation that felt less like an interview and more like watching someone become themselves in real time. Lorena Martinez is a social worker, program manager, first-generation American, and daughter of Colombian immigrants who has spent her career working at the intersection of community service, social justice, international affairs, and human potential. Lorena and I met through Five Frogs Connecticut's Leadership Development Roundtable program, where I served as her coach over eight months. She's since become a member of the Millennial Manager Collective, attended Reloveution retreats, and continued her growth in ways that are visible, concrete, and unbelievably moving to witness. In this conversation, we dig into what it means to lead with humility and values alignment in the social sector, the psychological weight of being a fixer (and what it costs when that's the only mode you know), the concrete tools Lorena still pulls out at team meetings years later, and what it's like to be a first-generation American navigating systems that were never designed with her in mind. Tune in to hear: Lorena's origin story: Colombian roots, a grandmother who raised her on culture and language, and high school years spent advocating for day laborers and speaking in front of lawmakersHow she found her way from international affairs to social workWhy self-awareness is "the most important value factor, ever," and what it costs when leaders are blind to their own egoHow she came to coaching thinking she'd be told what she was doing wrong, and discovering reframing, possibilities, and values alignment insteadThe concrete tools she still uses: communication styles, leadership types, difficult conversations, and the workbook that still lives in her binderThe "compassionate accountability" frame that changed how she thinks about work entirelyCode-switching, the psychological toll of not being able to show up fully, and what she wishes leaders would do differentlyWhat it feels like to be a first-generation American in 2026 and the hypervigilance that comes with itWhat she's working on becoming: someone who can let life unfold, trust that things will fall into place, and celebrate how far she's come instead of only seeing what's left to fixHer closing wisdom: you don't have to do all the things from a place of scarcity. Do them because they bring you joy, because inherently, you are enough About Lorena Martinez: Lorena Martinez is a social worker, program manager, and first-generation American born to Colombian parents and raised in New York and Connecticut. She holds a Master of Social Work and has spent her career working in mission-driven organizations at the intersection of community service, social justice, and human development. She is an alum of Five Frogs Connecticut's Leadership Development Roundtable and a current member of Reloveution's Millennial Manager Collective. Coaching Lorena came into coaching expecting someone to tell her what she was doing wrong. What she found instead was a space to see her own situations from the outside, reframe, explore possibilities, and keep her humanity intact. She says the skills and tools she's worked through with me as her coach continue to pay back with exponential returns, and that when she faces a hard situation at work, her first thought is still: how would Marissa look at this? If you're a leader who could use someone like that in your corner, book a connection call to see if coaching with Reloveution is the right fit for you. Want More from Reloveution? Join the Millennial Manager Collective Join our Compassionate Accountability Cohort ChatGMB: Wisdom & Insights for Modern Leaders is produced for leaders, managers, and changemakers seeking insight, tools, perspective, and real talk on topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. There is no fancy editing or over-polished scripting. Tune in to hear me in all my imperfection, talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light me up or set me on fire. If you like what you hear and want more wisdom and insights for your journey, sign up for our weekly-ish newsletter!! Have a question you'd like us to answer in a future episode? Submit questions (anonymous welcome) HERE. ChatGMB is a production of Reloveution, a consulting and professional development services provider that leverages the magic of humanity to strengthen teams, deepen leadership impact, and catalyze professional well-being. From facilitating team retreats to leading leadership development programs to robust advisory services, we help you build the emotional and cultural conditions for human thriving AND exemplary business outcomes. Learn more at www.truereloveution.com You might also be interested in our focused conflict transformation practice RepairWorks. When tension rises, communication breaks down, or trust is broken, RepairWorks provides mediation, facilitated dialogue, advisory services, and training to help individuals, workplaces, teams, and established communities move through and transform conflict with clarity, accountability, and humanity. Learn more at www.conflictrepairworks.com About the Show GMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). Think of this as the human alternative: honest real talk, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies on the specific leadership and culture topics that surface again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work.

  5. Jul 30

    Nobody Wakes Up and Says, "I Want to Be Homeless": Theresa Nicholson on Housing, Dignity, and Leadership

    Our Summer Guest Series continues with Theresa Nicholson, Executive Director of South Park Inn in Hartford, Connecticut. Theresa has spent more than 30 years advocating for and managing vital services for people experiencing homelessness and severe mental illness, working her way from case manager to vice president to executive director across some of the most complex social service organizations in Connecticut and Massachusetts. She came to South Park Inn in 2024 with a clear intention: to close out her career in a smaller organization where she could have a bigger, more direct impact on her community. Theresa and I share stories about the people who have impacted us in our careers, dig into what's changed in homelessness services over 30 years, and explore what it means to lead a trauma-exposed team without burning everyone out. Tune in to also hear: What South Park Inn does and who/how it servesThe fastest-growing population experiencing homelessness right now — and why it surprised a synagogue full of people who thought they knewWhat "brief" used to mean vs. what it means now, and what that says about the housing crisisHow Theresa thinks about team wellbeing in some of the most vicarious-trauma-heavy work there isThe "get to yes" framework, and a story about $20,000 in medical beds that almost got sent backWhat Theresa wishes she'd known as a young leaderThe skill vs. will framework for assessing staffWhy criminalizing homelessness is one of the most urgent and disheartening trends she's watchingThe call to action: be an advocate, donate, volunteer, and remember that most of us are one paycheck away from a very different life About Theresa Nicholson: Theresa Nicholson is a master's-level clinician and longtime advocate for people experiencing homelessness, mental illness, and addiction. She has served as Executive Director of South Park Inn since 2024, coming from the Center for Human Development in Western Massachusetts, where she was Director of Homeless Services for nearly six years. Previously, she was Chief Program Officer at Chrysalis Center in Hartford and spent 15 years at the Community Renewal Team as Vice President of Behavioral Health Services. She was a former chair of the Greater Hartford Coordinated Access Network. She is also a mother of six adopted children. Connect with and Support South Park Inn: Website: South Park InnDonate: https://www.southparkinn.org/donateGet Involved: https://www.southparkinn.org/get-involvedDance Party Fundraiser: September 26, 2026 at Parkville Market, Hartford, CT Resources Mentioned: Greater Hartford Gives (formerly Hartford Foundation for Public Giving) [link]Connecticut's Coordinated Access Networks Want Support from Reloveution? Join our Compassionate Accountability Cohort ChatGMB: Wisdom & Insights for Modern Leaders is produced for leaders, managers, and changemakers seeking insight, tools, perspective, and real talk on topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. There is no fancy editing or over-polished scripting. Tune in to hear me in all my imperfection, talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light me up or set me on fire. If you like what you hear and want more wisdom and insights for your journey, sign up for our weekly-ish newsletter!! Have a question you'd like us to answer in a future episode? Submit questions (anonymous welcome) HERE. ChatGMB is a production of Reloveution, a consulting and professional development services provider that leverages the magic of humanity to strengthen teams, deepen leadership impact, and catalyze professional well-being. From facilitating team retreats to leading leadership development programs to robust advisory services, we help you build the emotional and cultural conditions for human thriving AND exemplary business outcomes. Learn more at www.truereloveution.com You might also be interested in our focused conflict transformation practice RepairWorks. When tension rises, communication breaks down, or trust is broken, RepairWorks provides mediation, facilitated dialogue, advisory services, and training to help individuals, workplaces, teams, and established communities move through and transform conflict with clarity, accountability, and humanity. Learn more at www.conflictrepairworks.com About the Show GMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). Think of this as the human alternative: honest real talk, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies on the specific leadership and culture topics that surface again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work.

  6. Jul 22

    The Compliance-to-Growth Shift: Nina Everflow on Decolonizing How We Learn

    Our Summer Guest Series continues with this rich, expansive, and radical conversation with Nina Everflow, a consultant, facilitator, and designer of exceptional, equitable, and effective learning experiences. Nina helps social impact organizations design wisdom systems that turn transformational expertise into lasting practices, shared knowledge, and healthier cultures. She's also one of my favorite community members, someone who can make you smile and feel grounded even when talking about really difficult things. Nina grew up shaped by a large, loud, diverse extended family and a deep relationship with faith and human behavior, always asking why people make the choices they do, and what happens when we show up with a gap between who we say we are and how we actually act. Those questions became the foundation of Everflow Consulting and Design, where she helps organizations and thought leaders transform wisdom into living systems that can be practiced, shared, and sustained. In this conversation, Nina and I go deep. Tune in to hear about: Nina's origin story: an integrative studies degree at George Mason, a big, loud, diverse family, and a lifelong fascination with the gap between who we say we are and how we actually show upWhat a "wisdom system" is, and why it's different from a curriculum or a training programWhy knowledge isn't just data, and what gets lost when we treat it that wayThe concept of "energetic transferability," and how the more of yourself you bring to a space, the more another person can actually receive what you're sharingWhy being a great in-person facilitator does NOT automatically make you great virtually, and what the real skill shift requiresWhat "decolonizing learning" means and how it starts with shifting from compliance-oriented to growth-oriented intentionalityWhy healthy dissent and conflict are signs of a thriving organization and why leaders have to protect the people who push backWhy "thinking about learning as an ecosystem" is the question Nina starts with every client engagement About Nina Everflow: Nina Everflow is a consultant, facilitator, and designer of exceptional, equitable, and effective learning experiences. As the founder of Everflow Consulting and Design, she helps social impact organizations, founders, and thought leaders design wisdom systems that turn transformational expertise into lasting practices, shared knowledge, and healthier cultures. Her approach integrates embodied leadership, adult learning, and value-centered design — grounded in the belief that growth should never come at the expense of integrity. She has nearly 15 years of experience in learning and development and works with authors, nonprofit leaders, and organizations who are ready to move beyond compliance-oriented training toward something that actually changes people. Connect with Nina: Website: Everflowco.comLinkedInNewsletter: Tips on liberated learning, facilitation strategies, and stories from Nina's client work [link via website] Resources Mentioned: Emergent Strategy by adrienne maree brownBayo AkomolafeThe Adaway Group (Now, Together at Work)Actions Speak Louder by Deanna Singh [link] Want Support from Reloveution? Bring a Workshop or Learning Experience to Your TeamJoin our Compassionate Accountability Cohort ChatGMB: Wisdom & Insights for Modern Leaders is produced for leaders, managers, and changemakers seeking insight, tools, perspective, and real talk on topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. There is no fancy editing or over-polished scripting. Tune in to hear me in all my imperfection, talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light me up or set me on fire. If you like what you hear and want more wisdom and insights for your journey, sign up for our weekly-ish newsletter!! Have a question you'd like us to answer in a future episode? Submit questions (anonymous welcome) HERE. ChatGMB is a production of Reloveution, a consulting and professional development services provider that leverages the magic of humanity to strengthen teams, deepen leadership impact, and catalyze professional well-being. From facilitating team retreats to leading leadership development programs to robust advisory services, we help you build the emotional and cultural conditions for human thriving AND exemplary business outcomes. Learn more at www.truereloveution.com You might also be interested in our focused conflict transformation practice RepairWorks. When tension rises, communication breaks down, or trust is broken, RepairWorks provides mediation, facilitated dialogue, advisory services, and training to help individuals, workplaces, teams, and established communities move through and transform conflict with clarity, accountability, and humanity. Learn more at www.conflictrepairworks.com About the Show GMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). Think of this as the human alternative: honest real talk, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies on the specific leadership and culture topics that surface again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work.

  7. Jul 9

    The Room You Need Before the Stakes Are Real: Julia Pileggi on the Body, the Voice & the Boom Room

    In today's installment of our Summer Guest Series, we are joined by Julia Pileggi, co-founder of The Boom Room, spoken word performer, and one of those incredible people who build the thing the world needs because the thing didn't exist yet. In this electric conversation, we dive deep into the gap between who we know ourselves to be and who actually shows up when things get hard, the science and soul of why knowing what to do is never the same as being able to do it, why the body defaults to familiar, protective patterns under stress no matter how much we've studied or prepared, and how consequence-free practice before the stakes are real is the missing ingredient in almost every leadership development program. We also trade stories about freezing on stage, the pink-pen-on-yellow-paper moment that changed Julia's career, and what it means that "humiliated" and "human" are almost the same word. Julia came to this work through years as a simulated patient actor and actor-trainer, and through a deeply personal experience of losing her voice when she and her husband uprooted their lives and moved to Italy with a 20-month-old. Julia, a self-described spoken-word artist who expresses herself for a living, suddenly found herself freezing at the farmer's market trying to order cheese. That disorientation became the seed of The Boom Room, a practice company that uses professional actors and immersive simulated scenarios to help people close the gap between who they know themselves to be and who actually shows up under pressure. Listen in to hear us talk about: How losing her voice in Italy became the origin story of The Boom RoomWhat The Boom Room is, how it works, and who it's forWhy knowing what to do is not the same as being able to do it under pressureThe self-abandonment loop, including what happens in the body when we say something we don't meanWhy "it's not a character flaw, it's a practice gap" is the reframe leaders need mostHow the body holds muscle memory, and how to start building new pathways before the real conversation has to happenPractical tools for staying present: breathing, humming, physical warm-up, and the "what would I do in the Boom Room?" questionThe "These 5 Minutes" writing practice Julia built with a friend and kept up for 8 yearsWhy triumph often feels bad and why that's the signal you're actually growing Connect with Julia and The Boom Room: Website: theboomroomexperience.com Books Mentioned: Wild Mind by Natalie Goldberg Want Support Finding Your Voice w/ Reloveution? Join our Public Feedback Lab (August 10, 2026)Join our Compassionate Accountability Cohort (September 2026 - March 2027)On-Demand Coaching ChatGMB: Wisdom & Insights for Modern Leaders is produced for leaders, managers, and changemakers seeking insight, tools, perspective, and real talk on topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. There is no fancy editing or over-polished scripting. Tune in to hear me in all my imperfection, talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light me up or set me on fire. If you like what you hear and want more wisdom and insights for your journey, sign up for our weekly-ish newsletter!! Have a question you'd like us to answer in a future episode? Submit questions (anonymous welcome) HERE. ChatGMB is a production of Reloveution, a consulting and professional development services provider that leverages the magic of humanity to strengthen teams, deepen leadership impact, and catalyze professional well-being. From facilitating team retreats to leading leadership development programs to robust advisory services, we help you build the emotional and cultural conditions for human thriving AND exemplary business outcomes. Learn more at www.truereloveution.com You might also be interested in our focused conflict transformation practice RepairWorks. When tension rises, communication breaks down, or trust is broken, RepairWorks provides mediation, facilitated dialogue, advisory services, and training to help individuals, workplaces, teams, and established communities move through and transform conflict with clarity, accountability, and humanity. Learn more at www.conflictrepairworks.com About the Show GMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). Think of this as the human alternative: honest real talk, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies on the specific leadership and culture topics that surface again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work.

  8. Jul 9

    We Are All Learners and Teachers: Keesha Ceran on Lifelong Learning and Leading Whole People

    Our Summer Guest Series continues with this rich, warm, and wide-ranging conversation with Nakeesha Ceran — affectionately known as Keesha — Deputy Director of Teaching for Change, political scientist, first-generation Haitian American, proud community college graduate, connector of people, and one of my favorite humans. Keesha has been part of the Millennial Manager Collective for three years, and this conversation is a beautiful example of what happens when someone has been doing the deep work on themselves and their leadership for a long time. She brings a rare combination of big-picture political and historical analysis, profound humility about her own leadership journey, and a deeply practical approach to building culture inside a small nonprofit navigating an enormous, often difficult moment in history. Keesha and I cover a lot of ground, from the state of public education and the long arc of educator disenfranchisement, to what it means to steward people well as a leader, to the tension between building a beautiful workplace culture and knowing your people are going to leave it. We talk about what COVID revealed and what we forgot too quickly, why "holding people loosely" is an act of generosity and not a failure, and why the question "what do you really want to do?" is one of the most powerful things a manager can ask. As a bonus, we also hear from Keesha about her powerful experiences with the Millennial Manager Collective and Reloveution's public retreats and programs. Tune in to learn more about: Keesha's origin story from small-town Ohio to the Bay Area to DC, and how her grandfather's love of the news became her foundation for civic curiosityTeaching for Change's mission: filling the gaps left by textbooks and helping young people understand their own power to change historyWhy the attack on honest history education isn't new, and how a 2020 executive order connects directly to what we're seeing in classrooms todayWhy Keesha calls educators first responders, and why they deserve the same reverenceWhere Keesha finds hope and leans into faith (even when it's hard)Her leadership reckoning: the low moment in a previous role, the harm she had to repair, and what it taught her about the leader she wanted to beWhat "holding people loosely" looks like in practice, and why it requires a lot of humility from a supervisorWhy she tells every direct report, "this is a step," and asks them what they really want to doThe 50/50 one-on-one, and how Keesha sets up her team relationships from the startWhy your employees and interns are your ambassadors, whether you've thought about it or not About Keesha Ceran: Keesha Ceran (she/her) is a dynamic, mission-driven mid-level executive with a background in political science, higher education, and nonprofit operations. She currently serves as Deputy Director of Teaching for Change, a national pre-K through 12 education nonprofit headquartered in Washington, DC, whose mission is to equip educators and families with tools to teach for social justice and help young people understand their power to change the world. A first-generation Haitian American raised in Ohio and the Bay Area, Keesha holds three degrees in political science and has spent her career at the intersection of education, social justice, organizational culture, and people development. She is a proud member of the Millennial Manager Collective and a natural connector of people, ideas, and communities. Resources Mentioned: Teaching for ChangeSocial Justice Books Teach Truth CampaignOther Ways to Connect: https://linktr.ee/teach_change Connect with Keesha: Connect: https://about.me/nakeeshaceranSocial Media Connections: https://linktr.ee/kjc89 Shameless Plug: Keesha has been part of the Millennial Manager Collective for three years, and in this episode she calls out what she calls "Marissa Magic," the rare ability to create a container where participants become co-creators of the experience, and consistently walk away more transformed than they expected. She describes me as someone with an astute awareness of people that is genuinely hard to put into words and says the community she's found through Reloveution's ecosystem is one she taps regularly to think through her own leadership. If you resonated with this conversation and could use a space like that in your corner, please check out: The Millennial Manager Collective (including our open events)The Reloveution RetreatOn-Demand Coaching & Advisory ChatGMB: Wisdom & Insights for Modern Leaders is produced for leaders, managers, and changemakers seeking insight, tools, perspective, and real talk on topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. There is no fancy editing or over-polished scripting. Tune in to hear me in all my imperfection, talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light me up or set me on fire. If you like what you hear and want more wisdom and insights for your journey, sign up for our weekly-ish newsletter!! Have a question you'd like us to answer in a future episode? Submit questions (anonymous welcome) HERE. ChatGMB is a production of Reloveution, a consulting and professional development services provider that leverages the magic of humanity to strengthen teams, deepen leadership impact, and catalyze professional well-being. From facilitating team retreats to leading leadership development programs to robust advisory services, we help you build the emotional and cultural conditions for human thriving AND exemplary business outcomes. Learn more at www.truereloveution.com You might also be interested in our focused conflict transformation practice RepairWorks. When tension rises, communication breaks down, or trust is broken, RepairWorks provides mediation, facilitated dialogue, advisory services, and training to help individuals, workplaces, teams, and established communities move through and transform conflict with clarity, accountability, and humanity. Learn more at www.conflictrepairworks.com About the Show GMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). Think of this as the human alternative: honest real talk, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies on the specific leadership and culture topics that surface again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work.

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ChatGMB: Wisdom & Insights for Modern Leaders is a podcast production of Reloveution, designed for leaders, managers, and changemakers who are looking for insight, tools, perspective, and real talk about topics such as human-centered leadership, team culture, conflict transformation, burnout prevention, and more. Some "episodes" are long-form audio "workshops", some are honest conversations with like-hearted people I respect and admire (or maybe even disagree with), and some are short, casual hot take episodes on the leadership and workplace culture topics/challenges that come up again and again in my consulting, coaching, and facilitation work. You can expect stories, tools, venting, brutal honesty, lots of standing on soapboxes, and so much more. Sample Episodes- How to Support Your Team During a Looming Restructure- What to Do When Your Boss Doesn't Care About Your Goals- Burnout, Compassion Fatigue & Vicarious Trauma, OH MY- Giving Effective Feedback- Interrupting Real & Perceived Scarcity at Work- Receiving Feedback Without Falling Apart- Series - Let's Talk About Layoffs: The Good, the Bad & The UglyAbout the ShowGMB stands for “the Great Marissa Badgley” — a nickname my husband lovingly uses to remind me that I am great, good, competent, courageous, and enough. The name is also a playful nod to ChatGPT, which so many of us rely on for answers (maybe more than we should). Think of this as the real human alternative: honest chatter, wisdom sharing, and actionable strategies for leaders who care.Note for ListenersI (Marissa) am trying to let go of all the tugs to make this perfectly (or at all) scripted, and want to use this as a space to riff and play. There is no editing; just me (and sometimes others) talking for as long as it feels "right" on the topics that light or fire me up. This is an experiment that might shift over time.