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The chain was always there, we just had to find it. Daisy Ogle on finishing season one, finding wisdom in unexpected places, and why the metrics are wrong | The Daisy Chain

Most of the wisdom we consume comes from people who have arrived. People with titles, platforms, track records. People who have packaged up what they know and presented it as a formula. This finale has none of that. What it has instead is something rarer — a host sitting with everything she has built, trying to make sense of what it actually means. This is the season one finale of The Daisy Chain. No guest. Just Daisy. Over eight episodes, eight extraordinary women passed down something real. And in this solo episode, Daisy reflects on what a season of honest, unscripted conversations actually taught her about wisdom, about the metrics we use to measure a life worth listening to, and about why the chain exists in the first place. The Daisy Chain began with a belief: wisdom isn't inherited. It doesn't belong to the most credentialed people or the loudest platforms. It lives in unexpected places — in a conversation you nearly didn't have, a song that arrived at exactly the right moment, a person the internet would never think to google. This episode is Daisy's attempt to name what she has found there. In this episode Daisy reflects on losing her mum at 14 and what it taught her about finding guidance in unexpected places, why everything she consumed online made her feel behind, and what she did about it, the guest who moved her most this season and why the metrics are wrong, what it really means to witness someone rather than fix them, and why The Daisy Chain is not a podcast but a way of moving through the world. This one is for anyone who has ever felt behind and wondered if that was the whole story. It isn't. Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼 In this episode I discuss: Why wisdom doesn't belong to the most credentialed peopleLosing a parent young and finding guidance where you least expect itWhy consuming more self-help content might be making you feel worseThe people no algorithm finds - and why they matter mostWhat it means to feel truly seen rather than fixedHow a song or a film can change your life in a way no podcast ever couldBuilding a life from scratch when nobody handed you a blueprintWhat a season of honest conversations taught me about wisdom and myself Follow The Daisy Chain: Follow The Daisy Chain on InstagramThe Daisy Chain's TikTokKnow an amazing guest? Contact us at thedaisychainpod@gmail.com Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. Leave a 5🌟 review — to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

14 min

May 28

You're not behind. We're all just ordinary, in the middle, just trying - Sue Cook on growing up without support, finding strength through hardship and why we're all just figuring it out | The Daisy Chain

Most of the wisdom we consume comes from people who have arrived. People with titles, platforms, track records. People who have packaged up what they know and presented it as a formula. This week's guest has none of that. What she has instead is a life, fully, bravely, extraordinarily lived. Sue Cook is not a public figure. She is my neighbor. One of my mother's closest friends. One of the women who helped raise me after I lost my mum at 14. I have known Sue my entire life. And then I pressed record, and she showed me sides of herself I had never seen in thirty years of knowing her. Sue grew up with a violent father and a mother who didn't want her. She escaped, raised three boys alone without a car, built a career entirely from scratch, completed a degree in her fifties, and is now caring for Joyce, her 98-year-old aunt, with the same fierce, unsentimental love she has brought to everything in her life. She has never had a safety net. She has never waited for permission. And she has never let anyone else's opinion of what she can do change what she knows she is capable of. In this conversation, Sue and Daisy talk about what it really means to be strong when you're terrified, why nothing you learn is ever wasted, and what it looks like to build a life entirely on your own terms. Sue shares the unexpected gift her violent father gave her, introduces the zone of proximal development - a concept that reframes where you are right now not as behind, but as exactly in the middle of getting there, and explains what Joyce, at 98 and living with dementia, has taught her about presence, pleasure and how to really be alive. She also shares the one piece of advice that has carried her through everything: there will always be someone with more and someone with less. We are all just ordinary. Just trying. This one is for anyone who has ever felt ordinary and wondered if that was enough. Sue has something to say about that. Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼 In this episode we discuss: Growing up without a safety net and finding strength through adversityHow to be strong even when you're terrifiedWhy nothing you learn is ever wastedThe zone of proximal development, why you're not as behind as you thinkGiving yourself permission to stop doing things you've always doneWhy we're all just ordinary, just tryingIntergenerational wisdom, what the elderly can teach us about being aliveBuilding a life and career from nothingThe importance of friendship during parenthoodCaring for an ageing parent and what it teaches you about yourself Follow The Daisy Chain: Follow The Daisy Chain on InstagramThe Daisy Chain's TikTokKnow an amazing guest? Contact us at thedaisychainpod@gmail.com Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. Leave a 5🌟 review — to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom. What found us- Links & Mentions Holly 'What found me this week' Mob Fresh Cookbook Sue: Quiet by Susan CainCome On Over by Shania TwainConclave — Edward Berger Guest: Sue Cook Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

1h 7m

May 21

You don't have to know everything to deserve your seat — Joanna Christie on self awareness, people pleasing and career confidence | The Daisy Chain

We are consuming more than ever and feeling less equipped than ever. More advice, more opinions, more noise. And somewhere in all of that, the signal gets lost. This week's guest has spent most of her career asking herself exactly what she lets in, and why it matters more than most people realise. Joanna Christie is the CMO of Moonfare and one of the most compelling leaders I have ever had the privilege of working under. She has built an extraordinary career across some of the UK's most recognisable brands, and has never once applied for a job. What makes Joanna remarkable isn't her title or her track record. It's the fact that she got here while openly battling people pleasing and imposter syndrome, asking stupid questions on purpose, and admitting what she didn't know in rooms full of people who expected her to have all the answers. In this conversation, Joanna and Daisy talk about what it really means to back yourself in your career, the difference between people pleasing and genuine kindness, and why curating what you let into your brain is one of the most powerful performance decisions you can make. Joanna opens up about losing her mother suddenly and the unexpected way grief handed her the most important lesson of her life. She shares her philosophy on work life balance, why she thinks suffer porn is a red flag not a badge of honor, and her simple formula for taking back control when overwhelm creeps in — clear the day, make the list, check it off. She also recommends Tuesdays with Morrie, a book about a man running out of life but not out of love, passing down wisdom every week to someone who needed it. Sound familiar. This one is for anyone who has ever felt lost in their career but still carries huge ambition. Joanna has something to say. Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼 In this episode we discuss: People pleasing and where it comes fromImposter syndrome and career confidenceWhy not knowing everything is your greatest professional assetSignal vs noise- being intentional about what you let into your brainHow to curate your feed and take back control of the algorithmGrief, loss and the wisdom that only comes from having really livedWork life balance and the truth about being a working motherWhy busyness as a badge of honour is a red flag not a flexSelf awareness as a leadership skillHow to take back control when you're feeling overwhelmed Follow The Daisy Chain: Follow The Daisy Chain on InstagramThe Daisy Chain's TikTokKnow an amazing guest? Contact us at thedaisychainpod@gmail.com Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. Leave a 5🌟 review - to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom. What found us — Links & Mentions Daisy: Walking pad Joanna: Tuesdays with Morrie by Mitch AlbomThe Life-Changing Magic of Not Giving a F*** by Sarah KnightHAYUReal Housewives of Beverly HillsSouthern CharmRomeo and Juliet - Baz LuhrmannLove Story (1970)Ancient and Brave electrolytesCalm app - sleep storiesSauna blanketBio Effect skincareNuFace Guest: Joanna Christie — CMO at Moonfare Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

1h 4m

May 14

Stop waiting for permission to make your art — Colette Woods on creative courage, finding your artistic identity and slow living | The Daisy Chain

Most of us have had someone tell us - a parent, a teacher, someone who should have known better - that the thing we love most isn't a real thing. Not a real career. Not a direction worth following. That moment doesn't leave you quickly. The question it plants - am I allowed to trust this? - can follow you for a very long time. Colette Woods is a painter and ceramicist living and working in Bruton, Somerset, whose art has been described as whimsical, instinctive and luminous. She spent decades working her way back to what she always knew she wanted - through family discouragement, through the practical realities of building a life. Last year, she was so seriously ill she couldn't lift her head from the pillow. She's only recently started working again. And she has never been clearer about what matters. Daisy and Colette talk about what happens when you spend your twenties following other people's maps, and what it takes to eventually trust your own instincts over the noise. They explore the art of saying no without explanation, and why Colette's morning ritual - an Italian percolator on the stove, the sound of the bubbling, the smell, a mug she made for herself, toast with marmalade is as close to meditation as anything she knows. Colette also shares her recent rediscovery of John Singer Sargent, whose paintings of fabric she finds so extraordinary that she looks at the cloth long before she ever reaches the face. This one is for anyone who was told their passion wasn't practical, and has spent years quietly wondering if they were right. Colette has been there. And she has something to pass down. Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼 In this episode we discuss: Being told your creative ambitions aren't a real careerWhat it means to finally trust your gut over other people's adviceThe power of saying no without explanationLife after serious illness and what it strips awayProtecting your creative process from commercial pressureCreating beauty and ritual in the everydayFinding your artistic identity later in lifeWhy emotions in art aren't a weakness - they're the energySocial media noise and why it's a lieHow to start making art again when you've been away from it Follow The Daisy Chain: Follow The Daisy Chain on InstagramThe Daisy Chain's TikTokKnow an amazing guest? Contact us at thedaisychainpod@gmail.com Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.Leave a 5🌟 review — to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom. What found us - Links & Mentions Daisy: The Prado Museum, Madrid Colette: John Singer Sargent - artist Hieronymus Bosch Three Colours Blue (dir. Krzysztof Kieślowski)Manon des Sources - French film The Other Bennet Sister - TV series La Bohème, Puccini - operaÉdith PiafGrace Jones - La Vie en Rose Guest: Colette Woods Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

43 min

May 7

Grief doesn't get easier, it just gets easier to carry - Ruby Jenkins on losing a mother young, life after loss and finding your way forward | The Daisy Chain

Grief has a way of finding you twice. Once when it happens- and again, years later, when you're standing in your twenties and you just want to pick up the phone. Ruby Jenkins is a hairdresser and entrepreneur who lost her mum suddenly at fifteen, there one day, gone the next. Daisy lost hers at fourteen, after years of watching cancer take hold. They met three years ago over a bad blow dry, two weeks before Daisy's wedding, and have been in each other's corner ever since. What they didn't know until they sat down to record this was how much they'd never said out loud. In this conversation, Ruby and Daisy talk about what grief actually feels like when the funeral is over and everyone goes home- that hollow feeling nobody prepares you for. They talk about why grief doesn't get easier with time, it just gets easier to carry, and why for both of them it hit hardest not at fifteen but in their twenties, when the little things started to sting. They talk about the embarrassment of grief that nobody mentions, what it means to stand at a crossroads after loss and choose who you become, and how losing her mum gave Ruby the biggest empathy battery she's ever had - something she'd never give back. Ruby also shares the wisdom her mum handed down that she still carries: there is always something to be glad about. You just have to find it. This one is for anyone who has ever lost someone young and wondered if the weight ever lifts. It does. You just get stronger at carrying it. Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼 In this episode we discuss: Why grief doesn't get easier, it just gets easier to carryWhat nobody tells you about losing a parent youngWhy grief hits harder in your twenties than it did at fifteenThe embarrassment of grief nobody talks aboutGrowing up without a mother and finding guidance elsewhereLife after loss, choosing who you becomeThere is always something to be glad about, even when you have to look hardHow losing a parent young shapes the person you become Follow The Daisy Chain: Follow The Daisy Chain on InstagramThe Daisy Chain's TikTokKnow an amazing guest? Contact us at thedaisychainpod@gmail.com Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.Leave a 5🌼 review to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom. What found us - Links & Mentions Ruby: Ray's a Laugh - Richard Billingham (photography book)Martin Parr (photographer)Hot Fuzz (film)Everything I Know About Love - Dolly Alderton (book)Vienna - Billy Joel (song) Daisy: Project Hail Mary (film)Kacey Musgraves - Oh What a World (song)About Time (film) What found me this week:Charlotte’s pick: Baz Luhrmunn- Everybody’s Free to Wear Sunscreen Guest: Ruby Jenkins @byrou_ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

1h 10m

Apr 30

Use anger as fuel, not fire - Natalie on creativity, letting go and finding gratitude | The Daisy Chain

Some of the most important things anyone ever told you about creativity, confidence and finding your way weren't said in a classroom or a therapy room. They were said in a kitchen, at a piano, in the middle of an ordinary afternoon by someone who had already figured it out the hard way. Natalie is an actress with decades of BBC productions, theatre and film behind her - Calendar Girls, Pride and Prejudice, The Importance of Being Earnest, and this summer Shear Madness at the Sonning Theatre. She has spent nearly thirty years teaching the STAGE method to everyone from children to corporate boardrooms, helping people find their voice when it matters most. But she also happens to have known Daisy since the day she was born - and long before any of the credentials, she was the person who sat her down at a piano and told her to just play. In this conversation, Natalie talks about what it really means to use anger as fuel rather than letting it consume you, and why the fire you felt at fifteen never actually goes out - it just needs you to look for it. They talk about creativity and why boredom is one of the most underrated tools you have, about letting go of what you cannot control, and about gratitude as something you practise rather than feel. Natalie shares what a hypnotherapist gave her in two words that changed everything, how watching David Bowie on Top of the Pops in 1973 cracked something open in her, and why nothing you have ever learned — even the things that didn't work out - is ever truly wasted. This one is for anyone who has ever felt lost, poured everything into something that didn't go to plan, or needed a reminder that feeling behind is not the same as being behind. Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼 In this episode we discuss: Using anger as fuel, not fireWhy nothing you've ever learned is wastedThe two words that changed everythingBoredom as a creative toolLetting go of what you can't controlGratitude as a daily practiceNatalie Ogle's STAGE method and public speakingWhy the fire in your belly never really goes out Follow The Daisy Chain: Follow The Daisy Chain on InstagramThe Daisy Chain's TikTokKnow an amazing guest? Contact us at thedaisychainpod@gmail.com Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.Leave a 5🌟 review — to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom. What found us — Links & Mentions Daisy: Give it a grow by Martha SwalesJoshua Tree by Demi Lovato & Rose GrayIs This Thing On? What found me this week: Ella's pick: The Road Not Taken by Robert Frost Natalie: Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars The Rocky Horror ShowSuzi Quatro Guest: Natalie — Shear Madness at the Sonning Theatre The Daisy Chain is a weekly podcast where every week, someone who's already been where you are passes down four pearls of wisdom to those of us still finding our way. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

56 min

Apr 23

There's always a gift in the sadness — Jonnie Godfrey on growing up without a parent, finding purpose through loss and self-awareness | The Daisy Chain

There's a particular weight to the moment you realise you've been distracting yourself from your own head — filling every gap with plans and people and things to do, just to avoid sitting in the quiet with yourself. If that sounds familiar, this conversation was made for you. Jonnie Godfrey has known Daisy for twenty years. She's a psychotherapist, a coach, and a mother who raised two remarkable children largely on her own - but what makes her worth listening to isn't her credentials. It's that she grew up without her father, went to boarding school at nine, spent nine months travelling solo across Africa before anyone thought that was remarkable, and learned - slowly, imperfectly - that every truly awful thing in her life eventually gave her something back. In this conversation, Jonnie and Daisy talk about what it really means to grow up without a parent, how anxious attachment shapes the way we love and the way we run, and the strange relief that comes from accepting that it's actually your job to get things wrong. They talk about boredom, stillness, the gift inside loss, and why the best piece of wisdom Jonnie ever received was the quietest: be still, and know there is peace within you. Jonnie is the kind of person you want to have known for twenty years. The Daisy Chain is lucky to have her in the chain. Every Thursday at 3pm. 🌼 In this episode we discuss: Growing up without a parentBoarding school and feeling set apartAnxious attachment and how it shapes the way we loveWhat distraction is really hidingThe gift inside heartbreak and lossParenting without a mapWhy it's our job to get it wrongFinding stillnessIntergenerational wisdom Follow The Daisy Chain: Follow The Daisy Chain on InstagramThe Daisy Chain’s Tik Tok Know an amazing guest? Contact us at thedaisychainpod@gmail.com Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts. Leave a 5🌟 review- to help more people discover our pearls of wisdom. What found us- Links & Mentions Daisy: Tomorrow, Tomorrow and Tomorrow by Gabrielle ZevinSky above Clouds IV by Georgia O'KeefeJonnie: Continuum Concept by Dr. Jean LeadoffThe Family Bed by Tine TheveninThe Prophet by Kahlil Gibran Guest: Jonnie Godfrey The Daisy Chain is a weekly podcast where every week, someone who's already been where you are passes down four pearls of wisdom to those of us still finding our way. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

53 min

Apr 16

Back yourself even when you don't feel ready — Doulla Croft on imposter syndrome, work life balance and getting braver with age | The Daisy Chain

There's a version of confidence that looks like having it all together from the outside, and then there's what it actually feels like on the inside. If you've ever walked into a room certain that today is the day it all comes unstuck - this one is for you. Doulla Croft has known Daisy since the day she was born. She built a career spanning decades at some of the world's biggest companies, managed high-performing teams, smashed targets - and spent most of it quietly convinced she was faking it. What makes her story worth hearing isn't the career. It's everything that had to happen before it, and everything she chose to walk away from after. In this conversation, Doulla talks honestly about growing up feeling different, the cultural expectations placed on her as a young girl, and the moment during her first marriage with two children under five - that she turned her car around and signed up for A-levels at night school. She talks about imposter syndrome that never fully went away, the trap of tying your identity to your work, and why financial independence matters more than any job title. And she talks about what two rounds of cancer quietly clarified: what was actually worth fighting for, and what wasn't. Doulla is one of those people who has genuinely earned her perspective - and she passes it down here without a single piece of advice that doesn't come from having really lived it. Every Thursday at 3pm 🌼 In this episode we talk about: Imposter syndrome and how to build confidence from evidence rather than feelingGrowing up under cultural expectations as a first generation British womanHow to separate your identity from your careerFinding your purpose after corporate lifeFinancial independence for women and why it matters in every relationshipOvercoming a difficult first marriage and starting over in your twentiesDiscovering you're dyslexic as an adult and what that changesWork life balance and the trap of tying your self worth to your job titleGetting braver with age and giving less of a damnWhat a cancer diagnosis teaches you about what actually mattersIntergenerational wisdom and passing down what you know Follow The Daisy Chain: Instagram: @thedaisychainpodTikTok: @the.daisy.chain.podLinkedIn: The Daisy Chain Podcast Follow Doulla Instagram: @doullacroftLinkedin: Doulla Croft Side Hustle Productions Enjoyed this episode? Follow on Spotify, Apple or AmazonLeave a 5⭐ review to help more people find the showJoin the chain Links & Mentions: Warning by Jenny JosephWhy Am I Afraid To Tell You Who I Am? by John PowellSentimental ValueI'm Still Standing by Elton JohnThe Traitors Guest: Doulla Croft Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

1 hr

Apr 14

You don't have to have it all figured out to be here - Daisy on growing up without a mother, the overwhelm of self-help content and why feeling lost is not a failure | The Daisy Chain

There's a podcast for the glowy skin, perfect morning, collagen-in-the-coffee version of you. This isn't it. The Daisy Chain was born out of two of the most defining moments of host Daisy's life - losing her mum at 14 and finding herself lost in a spiral of self-improvement content in the run up to her wedding. Both times she was looking for the same thing: not more information, not another how-to, but the honest wisdom of someone who had already been through it. Someone who could sit with her and say - I've been there, and here's what I know. In this first solo episode, Daisy introduces herself and the show. She talks about navigating adulthood without a conventional map, the grief of growing up without her mother, and why the women around her - her aunties, her neighbours, her teachers - became the mentors and guides she didn't know she was looking for. She also talks honestly about the overwhelming noise of self-improvement culture, why it made her feel worse not better, and what she is craving underneath all of it. This is your 3pm podcast. The one for when the spiral starts and you need something real. Not more noise - just an honest conversation that reminds you that feeling lost is not a failure and you are not doing this alone. If you've ever felt like everyone else has it figured out except you - this one's for you. Every Thursday. 🌼 The Daisy Chain is a weekly podcast — intergenerational conversations where remarkable people who've already lived through what you might be facing pass down four pearls of wisdom to those of us still figuring it out. Every Thursday at 3pm. Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcastsLeave a 5🌟 review — it helps more people discover the chain Follow The Daisy Chain: Instagram: @thedaisychainpodTikTok: @thedaisychainpodthisisthedaisychain.com Got someone amazing in mind for the chain? Get in touch: thedaisychainpod@gmail.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

25 min

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Feeling behind in life? You're not as lost as you think | The Daisy Chain

Adulthood is overwhelming. There's so much noise telling you how your life should look, and very little space to put your hand up and say, honestly, this is a lot. The Daisy Chain is that space. A weekly podcast for anyone figuring out life without a conventional support network - whether you've lost a parent young, never had someone to turn to, or simply find yourself navigating careers, relationships and identity without a map. Every Thursday, host Daisy sits down with remarkable people across generations to pass on four pearls of everyday wisdom - the kind that only comes from having really lived. You are not as lost as you think. And you are not doing this alone. Welcome to the chain. 🌼 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The chain was always there, we just had to find it. Daisy Ogle on finishing season one, finding wisdom in unexpected places, and why the metrics are wrong | The Daisy Chain

You're not behind. We're all just ordinary, in the middle, just trying - Sue Cook on growing up without support, finding strength through hardship and why we're all just figuring it out | The Daisy Chain

You don't have to know everything to deserve your seat — Joanna Christie on self awareness, people pleasing and career confidence | The Daisy Chain

Stop waiting for permission to make your art — Colette Woods on creative courage, finding your artistic identity and slow living | The Daisy Chain

Grief doesn't get easier, it just gets easier to carry - Ruby Jenkins on losing a mother young, life after loss and finding your way forward | The Daisy Chain

Use anger as fuel, not fire - Natalie on creativity, letting go and finding gratitude | The Daisy Chain

There's always a gift in the sadness — Jonnie Godfrey on growing up without a parent, finding purpose through loss and self-awareness | The Daisy Chain

Back yourself even when you don't feel ready — Doulla Croft on imposter syndrome, work life balance and getting braver with age | The Daisy Chain

You don't have to have it all figured out to be here - Daisy on growing up without a mother, the overwhelm of self-help content and why feeling lost is not a failure | The Daisy Chain

Feeling behind in life? You're not as lost as you think | The Daisy Chain

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