Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This

Kami Schatz and Melissa Hayes
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Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This is a podcast for high-functioning overthinkers, deep thinkers, and ambitious women navigating personal growth, identity, and real-life challenges. Hosted by Kami Schatz and Melissa Hayes, we dive into imposter syndrome, self-doubt, fear of being seen, mindset shifts, and doing hard things even when your thoughts won’t shut up. Honest, raw, and real conversations about growth, confidence, and figuring life out without pretending to have it all together.

Episodes

  1. 4d ago

    Ep. 12: The Delusion Required to Try Something New | Why Looking Crazy Might Be the First Step to Success

    What does it take to try something new? According to Kami and Melissa... a little bit of delusion. In this episode, we explore why every dream, business, podcast, and big life change starts with believing in something before there is proof it will work. We share stories about imposter syndrome, fear of judgment, looking ridiculous, and taking action long before confidence arrives. Because the truth is: Confidence doesn't come before action.Confidence comes from action. If you've ever worried about what people might think, questioned whether you're qualified, or felt called to do something bigger, this conversation is for you. Sometimes the people who change their lives are simply the people willing to look a little crazy first.

    23 min

  2. Jun 19

    Ep. 11: Why Women Feel Pressure to Be Everything | The Real Reason You're Exhausted All the Time

    In Episode 11 of Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This, Kami and Melissa explore the emotional weight so many women carry every day—the pressure to achieve more, earn more, give more, and somehow keep everyone happy while doing it. Through personal stories and honest reflection, they discuss people-pleasing, productivity, motherhood, entrepreneurship, self-worth, and the importance of filling your own bucket before trying to pour into everyone else's. This episode is a reminder that you don't need permission to take the pressure off. Sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is stop creating chaos, let go of unrealistic expectations, and allow the world to meet you where you are. If you've been feeling overwhelmed, stretched too thin, or like you're never doing enough, this conversation will remind you that you're not alone.

    18 min

  3. May 29

    Ep. 10: How to Trust Yourself More | Stop Asking Everyone Else What to Do

    Have you ever delayed a decision because you needed one more opinion? In this episode, Kami and Melissa unpack why so many of us struggle to trust ourselves. From business decisions and life changes to relationships, clutter, and personal growth, they explore the ways we seek validation before taking action. The conversation touches on people-pleasing, hyper-independence, emotional maturity, intuition, and the reality that sometimes there is no perfect answer - just the courage to make a choice and learn from it. If you've been stuck in analysis paralysis, waiting for certainty, or asking everyone else what they think before listening to yourself, this episode offers a refreshing reminder: You are more capable than you think, and your current situation is not your final destination. Hosted by Kami Schatz and Melissa Hayes. When your thoughts won't shut up... but you keep showing up.

    48 min

  4. May 22

    Ep. 9: Is Authenticity Becoming Performative? The Truth About Social Media, Vulnerability & Going Viral

    Is authenticity online actually authentic anymore? In this episode of Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This, Kami and Melissa unpack the blurry line between being genuinely yourself and performing authenticity for an audience. From crying videos and curated vulnerability to viral content, personal branding, and the pressure to always be “real,” this conversation gets honest about what authenticity actually looks like in today’s social media world. We explore the difference between connection and validation, why not everything needs an audience to be meaningful, the truth about chasing viral content, and what authentic marketing really means when you’re building a business or personal brand. We also dive into processing life publicly vs. privately, emotional boundaries online, and why sustainable connection will always outperform performative attention. If you’ve ever questioned what’s real online or caught yourself overthinking how you show up... this episode is for you.

    47 min

  5. May 15

    Ep. 8: Why Aren’t We Happy Yet? | Overthinking Happiness

    What if happiness isn’t something you achieve… but something you allow yourself to experience? In this episode, Kami and Melissa unpack the pressure so many of us feel to “finally be happy” once we hit the next goal, make more money, lose the weight, build the business, heal the trauma, or become more confident. But what happens when you get there… and still don’t feel the way you thought you would? This conversation dives into overthinking happiness, nervous system safety, childhood experiences, expectations, emotional triggers, entrepreneurship, self-sabotage, and the exhausting cycle of always moving the finish line. From deeply personal stories to honest reflections about success, relationships, achievement, and emotional safety — this episode is a reminder that maybe happiness was never supposed to look perfect or cinematic. Sometimes happiness is slower than that. Sometimes it’s coffee in silence. A calm nervous system. A home-cooked meal. A moment where your brain finally stops scanning for the next problem. And maybe… that’s enough. Welcome back to Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This.

    45 min

  6. May 8

    Ep. 7 : The Thought That Won’t Leave You Alone

    Episode 7: The Thought That Won’t Leave You Alone Why do some thoughts refuse to let go? In this episode of Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This, we talk about the mental spirals that start small and somehow turn into full-blown emotional documentaries in our heads. From overthinking taxes, delegation, awkward conversations, social media, business decisions, relationships, and life transitions… we unpack what it actually feels like to live with a brain that won’t stop thinking. We dive into:• entrepreneur brain & decision fatigue• imposter syndrome• anxiety vs intuition• mental blocks & overwhelm• why smart people overthink• fear of getting things wrong• overthinking as protection• learning to show up anyway We also share some very real (and slightly chaotic) stories about job interviews, SAT tests, business ownership, emotional overwhelm, shower thoughts, and the random spirals our brains create out of absolutely nothing. If your brain has ever convinced you that one text message, one decision, or one unfinished task meant your entire life was falling apart… this episode is for you. Connect with us:Kami → @epscoachingMelissa → @brave.harbour Thanks for spiraling with us 💭

    1h 3m

  7. May 2

    Ep. 6: The Moment You Decide to Try

    We say we’re “trying” all the time…but are we actually trying or just thinking about it? In this episode, we unpack what trying really looks like in real life. Not the polished version. The messy, uncomfortable, sometimes hilarious version where you either take the step… or talk yourself out of it. We get into: The difference between fake trying vs. real tryingHow overthinking keeps you stuck in “almost”Why confidence doesn’t come first - action doesThe split-second moment where everything can changeWhat trying actually looks like in business, relationships, and everyday lifeWe share real stories, call ourselves out (a lot), and remind you that trying doesn’t mean changing your whole life overnight… It means doing one thing differently today. Because at the end of the day - you’re either doing it… or you’re not. Connect with us on Instagram: Kami @epscoaching Melissa @brave.harbour

    47 min

  8. Apr 24

    Ep.5: What If You’re Not Actually Behind? | Stop Comparing & Start Trusting Your Own Timeline

    Do you ever feel like everyone else is ahead of you? Like they launched faster, built bigger, figured it out sooner and somehow you’re still trying to catch up? In this episode, we’re talking about the pressure of timelines, comparison, and the exhausting belief that you’re somehow behind in life. From business growth and money to relationships and personal goals, we unpack where that feeling comes from and why it might not actually be true. Because maybe you’re not behind.Maybe you’re just building your life differently. This is the episode for anyone who feels like they should be further along by now. Spoiler: you’re probably doing better than you think. 🎙️ Connect With Us: Kami Schatz @epscoaching Melissa Hayes @brave.harbour

    45 min

  9. Apr 17

    Ep. 4 : Stop Replaying That Conversation. You Said What You Said.

    Have you ever walked away from a conversation… and then replayed it in your head for hours? What you said.What you should have said.How they might have taken it.What they’re thinking about you now. In this episode, we’re diving into the spiral of overthinking conversations after they happen and why so many high-functioning, self-aware people get stuck there. We talk about: Why your brain won’t let it goThe pressure to say the “right” thingHow overthinking quietly impacts your confidence, relationships, and decisionsAnd the truth most people don’t realize… they’ve already moved onThis isn’t about “just stop overthinking.”It’s about understanding what’s actually happening and learning how to break the cycle. If you’ve ever left a conversation feeling off, second-guessed yourself, or mentally rewritten it 10 different ways… this one’s for you. Real conversations for high-functioning overthinkers navigating business, relationships, identity, and growth. Follow along for more conversations like this and behind-the-scenes moments from the podcast. 🎧 Podcast: Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This 🔗 Connect With Us on Instagram: Kami @epscoaching Melissa @brave.harbour

    52 min

  10. Apr 10

    Ep. 3: The Fear of Being Seen - Why Showing Up Online Feels So Hard

    What if the reason you’re not showing up… isn’t because you don’t know what to say but because you’re afraid of being seen? In this episode, we get real about what it actually feels like to put yourself out there especially when it shifts from personal to business. Because posting for fun is one thing… but showing up when it matters hits completely different. We talk about the pressure of social media, the overthinking spiral, and those moments where you want to be visible - but also kind of want to hide at the same time. (Yep… both can be true.) From fear of judgment, to dealing with comments, to questioning every post - we’re unpacking it all in a way that’s honest, relatable, and a little bit of a reality check. In this episode: Why being seen feels harder than people admitThe shift from personal posting → business visibilityOverthinking content, comments, and perceptionReal stories of fear, backlash, and growthLearning to show up anywayOverthinking of the Week: What did you almost NOT post because you were worried how it would be received? The truth: You don’t actually want to stay hidden… you just don’t want to be seen and misunderstood. If you’ve been holding back, overthinking, or waiting until you feel “ready”… this one’s for you. Connect with Us: Kami: https://www.instagram.com/epscoaching/ Melissa: https://www.instagram.com/brave.harbour/

    37 min

  11. Apr 3

    Ep. 2: Why do smart people doubt themselves?

    In this first official episode, we’re diving into something almost everyone experiences but rarely talks about honestly: why smart, capable people still doubt themselves. We talk about: ​Knowing what to do… but not doing it​Why confidence shows up for everyone else but not always for us​Overthinking, capacity, and getting stuck in your own head​And what it actually looks like to move forward anywayThis episode is real, a little messy, and exactly what this podcast is about - figuring it out in real time. If you’ve ever felt like you should be further ahead, more confident, or more “together”… you’re not alone. We’re right there with you. Connect with Us: Melissa @brave.harbour Kami @epscoaching

    35 min
  12. Ep 1: Welcome to the Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This with Melissa Hayes & Kami Schatz

    Mar 26

    Ep 1: Welcome to the Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This with Melissa Hayes & Kami Schatz

    Welcome to the podcast! We’re Melissa Hayes and Kami Schatz - two business owners in the middle of building, evolving, and figuring it out as we go. In this intro episode, we’re sharing who we are, how this podcast came to life, and what you can expect from future episodes. Think real conversations about business, life, growth, and everything in between - without the fluff or filters. If you’re building something, dreaming bigger, or just trying to stay consistent… you’re in the right place. 👉 Follow the show so you don’t miss what’s coming next. Connect with us: Kami @epscoaching Melissa @brave.harbour

    5 min
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Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This is a podcast for high-functioning overthinkers, deep thinkers, and ambitious women navigating personal growth, identity, and real-life challenges. Hosted by Kami Schatz and Melissa Hayes, we dive into imposter syndrome, self-doubt, fear of being seen, mindset shifts, and doing hard things even when your thoughts won’t shut up. Honest, raw, and real conversations about growth, confidence, and figuring life out without pretending to have it all together.

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