The ASBL Podcast with Lloyd Chapman and Bruce de Torres

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Lloyd Chapman is Founder and President of the American Small Business League (ASBL.com), working to stop the diversion of small business contracts to big businesses. Our DontCheatWomen.com project seeks to raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses.   Bruce de Torres is Director of Communications for the American Small Business League and author of GOD, SCHOOL, 9/11 AND JFK: The Lies That Are Killing Us and The Truth That Sets Us Free. (Read the amazing reviews at brucedetorres.com.)

  1. ASBL 67, Jenn Brothers, House Candidate, Pennsylvania District 9, April 28, 2026

    APR 28

    ASBL 67, Jenn Brothers, House Candidate, Pennsylvania District 9, April 28, 2026

    ASBL 67, Jenn Brothers, House Candidate, Pennsylvania District 9, April 28, 2026 The American Small Business League spoke with Jenn Brothers, running for Congress as an independent in Pennsylvania’s District 9. From her website, www.JennBrothersForCongress.com: “Jenn grew up rurally in the Rust Belt and Coal Country and chose Pennsylvania as her home. She’s a mother, knows what it means to be a union member, and is a dedicated advocate who has spent her life standing alongside everyday families. From caring for her grandfather, a World War II veteran, to restoring her 1840s home, to her career as an investigator, Jenn brings heart, experience, and a deep love for her community to everything she does. She fights for fairness, opportunity, and a government that works for the people not special interests.” Jenn’s Priorities: Strong Support for Rural Communities Healthcare That Works for Everyone A Fairer Economy Investing in Education and Opportunity Protecting the Vulnerable, Defending Justice Protecting Our Environment and Privacy Fixing Washington and Restoring Trust The American Small Business League (www.asbl.com) wants Congress to stop big businesses from getting small business contracts (small businesses would create millions of jobs with those contracts and the economy would boom). Our www.DontCheatWomen.com project wants Congress to: ·        Raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses. It’s not DEI or affirmative action. They own 40% of American businesses and sell what the government buys – but companies owned by men get over 95% of federal contract dollars, and that must change. ·        Define a small business as 100 or less employees. ·        Make the Small Business Administration prove that small business contracts go to small businesses (and give the SBA a budget and staff as big as its mission, which is to help the 99.9% of all firms in America that are small businesses). #jennbrothersforcongress #americansmallbusinessleague #dontcheatwomen #federalcontracts #smallbusinesscontracts

    24 min
  2. ASBL 66, Evan Hunt, House Candidate, Texas District 3, April 23, 2026

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    ASBL 66, Evan Hunt, House Candidate, Texas District 3, April 23, 2026

    ASBL 66, Evan Hunt, House Candidate, Texas District 3, April 23, 2026 The American Small Business League spoke with Evan Hunt, a Democrat running for Congress in Texas District 3. His website is www.ElectEvanHunt.com, and it says: “Evan Hunt is a [20-year U.S. Air Force] veteran and combat aviator, a community and business leader, and a Texas family man … running for U.S. Congress in Texas, as a Democrat, to take our country back from extremist agendas and to better represent the diverse people of the 3rd district.” “Evan is committed to protecting … constitutional integrity, the rule of law, and a government that works for all.” “Following his military career, Evan transitioned into the defense and aerospace industry, where he has held executive roles at leading companies — including publicly traded corporations like Raytheon, private equity-backed firms, and venture-backed startups [giving him] deep experience in national security, emerging technologies, and global strategy.” “Evan obtained his Bachelor’s degree … a double-major in History and Political Science [and] completed his Master’s degree in International Relations & Conflict Resolution at the American Military University. [He has] a global perspective and a local sense of responsibility.” The American Small Business League (www.asbl.com) wants Congress to stop big businesses from getting small business contracts (small businesses would create millions of jobs with those contracts and the economy would boom). Our www.DontCheatWomen.com project wants Congress to: ·        Raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses. It’s not DEI or affirmative action. They own 40% of American businesses and sell what the government buys – but companies owned by men get over 95% of federal contract dollars, and that must change. ·        Define a small business as 100 or less employees. ·        Make the Small Business Administration prove that small business contracts go to small businesses (and give the SBA a budget and staff as big as its mission, which is to help the 99.9% of all firms in America which are small businesses). #electevanhunt #americansmallbusinessleague #dontcheatwomen #federalcontracts #smallbusinesscontracts

    37 min
  3. ASBL 65, Jon Harris, House Candidate, Florida District 16, April 22, 2026

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    ASBL 65, Jon Harris, House Candidate, Florida District 16, April 22, 2026

    ASBL 65, Jon Harris, House Candidate, Florida District 16, April 22, 2026 The American Small Business League spoke with Jon Harris, a Democrat running for Congress in Florida’s District 16. Jon is (from his website, www.JonHarrisForCongress.com) “a proud U.S. Army veteran, technology professional, husband, and father who has dedicated his life to service — both in uniform and in his community. … raised in a military family, Jon grew up with a deep respect for discipline, duty, and country [which] led him to enlist in the Army at just 20 years old, beginning a career that would span … two decades across active duty and reserve service.” “Jon lives in his district and continues to serve his nation as a Warrant Officer in the U.S. Army Reserve while working as a Senior Information Security Advisor supporting U.S. Special Operations Command.” He’s running to create “The Growth Economy,” his plan to lower costs, grow good-paying jobs, and give families in his district a fair shot at success. “Families are paying more for healthcare, housing, groceries, and insurance while wages struggle to keep up. The Growth Economy delivers measurable results: lower bills, stronger competition, and economic growth that people can actually feel at home. The American Small Business League (www.asbl.com) wants Congress to stop big businesses from getting small business contracts (small businesses would create millions of jobs with those contracts and the economy would boom). Our www.DontCheatWomen.com project wants Congress to: ·        Raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses. It’s not DEI or affirmative action. They own 40% of American businesses and sell what the government buys – but companies owned by men get over 95% of federal contract dollars, and that must change. ·        Define a small business as 100 or less employees. ·        Make the Small Business Administration prove that small business contracts go to small businesses (and give the SBA a budget and staff as big as its mission, which is to help the 99.9% of all firms in America which are small businesses). #jonharrisforcongress #americansmallbusinessleague #dontcheatwomen #federalcontracts #smallbusinesscontracts

    25 min
  4. ASBL 64, Troy Green, U.S. Senate Candidate, Oklahoma, April 22, 2026

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    ASBL 64, Troy Green, U.S. Senate Candidate, Oklahoma, April 22, 2026

    ASBL 64, Troy Green, U.S. Senate Candidate, Oklahoma, April 22, 2026 The American Small Business League spoke with Troy Green, a Democrat running for the U.S. Senate in Oklahoma. Troy worked his way up from foster care and homelessness by always keeping his word and by out-working everyone else in the room (with a commitment to doing the best job possible). Troy earned multiple black belts on his way to becoming a successful businessman who taught martials arts for over 30 years. Troy also founded Safe Haven Oklahoma, a nonprofit that fights human trafficking and child exploitation. He has served as a police officer and worked in juvenile detention and private security. He and his wife are the proud parents of a Marine. Troy’s website, www.TroyGreenForSenate.com, says: “The Green Agenda is a 5-bill plan focusing on the issues affecting everyday Oklahomans: housing, education, safety, economic security, and rural opportunity.” The American Small Business League (www.asbl.com) wants Congress to stop big businesses from getting small business contracts (small businesses would create millions of jobs with those contracts and the economy would boom). Our www.DontCheatWomen.com project wants Congress to: ·        Raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses. It’s not DEI or affirmative action. They own 40% of American businesses and sell what the government buys – but companies owned by men get over 95% of federal contract dollars, and that must change. ·        Define a small business as 100 or less employees. ·        Make the Small Business Administration prove that small business contracts go to small businesses (and give the SBA a budget and staff as big as its mission, which is to help the 99.9% of all firms in America which are small businesses). #troygreenforsenate #americansmallbusinessleague #dontcheatwomen #federalcontracts #smallbusinesscontracts

    41 min
  5. ASBL 63, Chris Bennett, House Candidate, CA District 3, April 20, 2026

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    ASBL 63, Chris Bennett, House Candidate, CA District 3, April 20, 2026

    ASBL 63, Chris Bennett, House Candidate, CA District 3, April 20, 2026 The American Small Business League spoke with Chris Bennett, who is running for Congress as a Democrat in California’s District 3, which goes from Southeast Sacramento in Sacramento County, north through Placer County and includes all of Nevada County and much of El Dorado County east to Nevada's western border. His website is www.BennettForCA.com. Chris is a disabled Army veteran whose top priorities include affordable housing and groceries, public homeowners’ insurance, healthcare & big pharma. He is a former tech worker and community activist who comes from “a working-class military background, so I understand the needs of everyday people and how poverty fuels our system.” Chris said, near the end, “I want every single person to live in dignity and safety.” The American Small Business League (www.asbl.com) wants Congress to stop big businesses from getting small business contracts (small businesses would create millions of jobs with those contracts and the economy would boom). Our www.DontCheatWomen.com project wants Congress to: ·        Raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses. It’s not DEI or affirmative action. They own 40% of American businesses and they sell what the government buys – but companies owned by men get over 95% of federal contract dollars, and that must change. ·        Define a small business as 100 or less employees. ·        Make the Small Business Administration prove that small business contracts go to small businesses (and give the SBA a budget and staff as big as its mission, which is to help the 99.9% of all firms in America which are small businesses). #bennettforca #americansmallbusinessleague #dontcheatwomen #federalcontracts #smallbusinesscontracts

    30 min
  6. ASBL 62, Allen Spence, House Candidate, FL District 17, April 13, 2026

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    ASBL 62, Allen Spence, House Candidate, FL District 17, April 13, 2026

    ASBL 62, Allen Spence, House Candidate, FL District 17, April 13, 2026 The American Small Business League spoke with Allen Spence, Democrat candidate for Congress in Florida’s District 17. Allen brings over “20 years of experience in public service and economics to the fight for Southwest Florida.” His campaign is centered on “economic prosperity for all, reforming Social Security, and restoring Congress as a real check on the executive branch.” His website is www.Spence2026.com. Topics discussed: Allen’s “Prosperity Agenda.” From his website: “Floridians are being squeezed by rising costs, and far too many families are falling behind. Nearly 1 in 5 children in Florida, over 800,000, don’t know where their next meal is coming from. That is unacceptable. My economic plan focuses on immediate affordability, long-term growth, and restoring dignity for every family in Sarasota, Charlotte, and Lee Counties.” His district, in southwest Florida, is suffering from the Canadian boycott, the downturn in tourism caused by President Trump’s trade policies. The topsy-turvy tariffs of the past year and the uncertainty they cause are hurting the local economy and the area’s small businesses. The current Representative, Greg Steube, “won’t even have a town hall meeting. He won’t talk to the people in the district,” Allen said. “That’s un-American. There’s a fundamental problem with that.” With a petition asking that the incumbent conduct a town hall meeting, Allen went to Mr. Steube’s district office and found that it was really a fake office. Allen filed an Ethics Complaint against the incumbent for that. “He won’t even listen to constituents who are scared of leaving their homes because of their skin color. They’re afraid of being arrested by ICE. We need a revolution at the ballot box.” Allen thinks Congress is dysfunctional. “We need to increase the size of the House of Representatives. For the first 150 years of our history, the size of the House grew as our population grew. Then it was capped at 435 in 1929. This is what you see in two elections this century where the president has lost the national popular vote but has won in the Electoral College because smaller States are over-represented in the Electoral College.” Bruce de Torres, ASBL host, made the point that 435 Representatives are easier to influence by bribes or blackmail than a larger body (had the size of the House grown with the general population). “If you … imagine keeping the older, roughly 1910 ratio of about 210,000 people per representative [applied to today’s population], the House would be well over 1,600 seats today.” -perplexity.ai.

    41 min
  7. ASBL 61, Anna Wilding, House Candidate, CA District 32, April 9, 2026

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    ASBL 61, Anna Wilding, House Candidate, CA District 32, April 9, 2026

    ASBL 61, Anna Wilding, House Candidate, CA District 32, April 9, 2026 The American Small Business League (www.ASBL.com) spoke with Anna Wilding, who is running for Congress as a Democrat in California’s District 32, which lies “entirely within Los Angeles County in Southern California. It covers affluent western suburbs and neighborhoods of the City of Los Angeles [including] the city of Malibu, Pacific Palisades, Brentwood, Bel Air, Studio City, Sherman Oaks, Encino, Tarzana, Woodland Hills, West Hills, Canoga Park, Winnetka, Reseda, Chatsworth, Northridge, and parts of North Hills and Granada Hills.” -perplexity.ai. Anna grew up in the district and lives there now. She is “a proud American citizen, first generation immigrant with a diverse record of executive success, spanning government, business, the arts, entertainment, technology, energy, and crisis management.”  -www.WildingForCalifornia.com. “One of the main reasons I’m running,” Anna told us, “is for change. I think Congress needs significant change right now. I’ve signed a pledge that people can stay in Congress only 10 years. I am challenging a 28-year incumbent who has become a single-issue representative.” Anna described the horrifying failures of government at every level that led to the wildfires that destroyed Malibu and the Pacific Palisades in January 2025, the failure to clean up the resulting sludge in the ocean, and the failure to help property owners rebuild their homes and their lives. From her YouTube channel, www.youtube.com/@AnnaWilding_forCongress: “I’m running because we need ethical leadership, practical solutions, and real-world experience in Washington, not more career politicians. I’ve lived the American Dream from the ground up. As a first-generation immigrant, I arrived in America alone more than 30 years ago. I worked three jobs to build my life. I went on to found companies, including one that reached #1 in its category on Amazon. I’ve created award-winning films and music videos, led earthquake relief efforts through my nonprofit, reported from the White House as a credentialed Senior White House Correspondent. … I bring real leadership and a deep understanding of both struggle and success to this race.” Learn more about Anna at www.WildingForCalifornia.com. The American Small Business League (www.asbl.com) wants Congress to stop big businesses from getting small business contracts (small businesses would create millions of jobs with those contracts and the economy would boom). Our www.DontCheatWomen.com project wants Congress to: ·        Raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses. It’s not DEI or affirmative action. They sell what the government buys. ·        Define a small business as 100 or less employees. ·        Make the Small Business Administration prove that small business contracts go to small businesses (and give the SBA a budget and staff as big as its mission, which is to help the 99.9% of all firms in America which are small businesses). #wildingforcalifornia #americansmallbusinessleague #dontcheatwomen #federalcontracts #smallbusinesscontracts

    34 min
  8. ASBL 60, William Marks, Recent Candidate in Texas, District 25, March 16, 2026

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    ASBL 60, William Marks, Recent Candidate in Texas, District 25, March 16, 2026

    ASBL 60, William Marks, Recent Candidate in Texas, District 25, March 16, 2026 The American Small Business League (www.ASBL.com) spoke with William Marks, who ran for Congress as a Democrat in Texas, District 25, in the recent primary. (Dion Sims won.) William is a decorated combat veteran and award-winning navy communicator with 22 years in the military before working for six years at Meta. His website is www.WilliamMarks.com. What are your takeaways, lessons from your recent campaign? As a candidate for the House, you can be competitive in three ways. First, have two hundred thousand dollars to spend on day-one. You can hire a team. Build infrastructure. Set up your technology stack. And attract more money. “It takes money to get money.” The second way to be competitive on day-one is to already be famous. A celebrity. An athlete. An astronaut. Already have name recognition. The third way can be called the organic way, which is to have lived in the same area for decades and built up a large network. It helps if you’re maybe a small business owner or a teacher, something like that, where you interact with the public quite a bit. “I started out with none of those things,” William said. “But the Republican incumbent (Roger Williams) had not had a challenger since 2020. And I felt that the people at least deserve a choice. So, I decided to run.” To run a lean campaign. Use social media for all the free marketing possible. Do it full-time. William is a good public speaker. He did over 200 personal events over seven or eight months. He walked 380 miles. After 3 or 4 months of campaigning, Republicans in Texas redrew the district to try to win more seats. Now William was unknown in much of the new district. He had been campaigning in its old lines to people who now couldn’t vote for him. “But when people met me and heard my positions, they got on the team. They were very enthusiastic.” Primaries are less about your positions, more about name recognition. William ran against someone who had ninety years of family name recognition, Dion Sims. “I’m confident the Democratic party will flip the House.” The American Small Business League called the office of Republican incumbent Roger Williams recently about our www.DontCheatWomen.com goals (see below). He’s the chairman of the House Small Business Committee. Basically, we were told, that sounds DEI. We’re Republicans. So, we’re not going to do anything about that. William said, “Roger Williams is no friend of small business.” He inherited a car dealership that makes him a millionaire many times over.

    44 min

About

Lloyd Chapman is Founder and President of the American Small Business League (ASBL.com), working to stop the diversion of small business contracts to big businesses. Our DontCheatWomen.com project seeks to raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses.   Bruce de Torres is Director of Communications for the American Small Business League and author of GOD, SCHOOL, 9/11 AND JFK: The Lies That Are Killing Us and The Truth That Sets Us Free. (Read the amazing reviews at brucedetorres.com.)