The ASBL Podcast with Lloyd Chapman and Bruce de Torres

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Lloyd Chapman is Founder and President of the American Small Business League (ASBL.com), working to stop the diversion of small business contracts to big businesses. Our DontCheatWomen.com project seeks to raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses.   Bruce de Torres is Director of Communications for the American Small Business League and author of GOD, SCHOOL, 9/11 AND JFK: The Lies That Are Killing Us and The Truth That Sets Us Free. (Read the amazing reviews at brucedetorres.com.)

  1. ASBL 70, Save Minority-Owned and Women-Owned Small Businesses (Oppose New Bill), May 21, 2026

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    ASBL 70, Save Minority-Owned and Women-Owned Small Businesses (Oppose New Bill), May 21, 2026

    ASBL 70, Save Minority-Owned and Women-Owned Small Businesses (Oppose New Bill), May 21, 2026 On April 27, 2026, a bill was introduced in the House (H.R. 8511 by Rep. Glenn Grothman-R, Wisconsin District 6) and the Senate (S. 4390 by Sen. Mike Lee-R, Utah) that would wipe out the federal contracting goals for minority and Women-Owned Small Businesses (WOSBs). We want this bill squashed and hope that you will oppose it, too, with every resource at your disposal. Please share this with everyone in your professional and personal worlds and contact the people below. But first, did you know that less than 10% of Americans ever contact a Representative or Senator about anything? Can you imagine if everyone complaining about political things actually contacted Congress about the things that bother them? Do you know what a difference that would make? Can you imagine how things might improve? The bills in the House and the Senate are identical would hurt thousands of businesses, deprive the economy of hundreds of thousands of new jobs, decrease competition, weaken the federal supply chain, and steer probably 100% of federal contract dollars to companies owned by men. That must not be allowed to happen. Women own 40% of all businesses. They sell what the government buys. Rather than abolish the government’s goal that 5% of federal contracts should go to women-owned small businesses, that goal should be raised to something more fair, like 15%. Please see our Don’t Cheat Women Project online for more about this. That’s www.DontCheatWomen.com. Women need all the economic help they can get. Men earn and save more than women, so they dominate in politics. Men give more to campaigns, and so they have more influence with the winners. And it’s easier for them to run for office. Men hold roughly 75% of all seats in the House, the Senate, every State Legislature and president’s cabinet, almost that many Governorships, and 90% of Committee Chair and party leadership positions. We need the whole human race in the councils of government. Women-owned small businesses need more support, not less. Please print out these show-notes and call the offices below. You’ll have fun with those conversations and leaving your voicemails. There’s a suggested script below. Then call or write us and tell us how you did and what else we can do to oppose these bills. Our number is 415-404-7733, and our email is info@asbl.com. Our strength is in our numbers. Good things will happen when enough of us do SOMETHING. Thank you very much for doing something to support America’s small businesses. You can see and learn more at our site, www.ASBL.com, and at www.DontCheatWomen.com. American Small Business League 415-404-7733 www.ASBL.com info@asbl.com Regarding the House bill … H.R. 8511, Ending Discrimination in Government Contracting Act. Please contact the following and say something like this: “I oppose H.R. 8511 because it will eliminate the Woman-Owned Small Business federal contracting program and gut other programs that help small businesses compete for federal contracts. Please do all in your power to prevent H.R. 8511 from advancing. Thank you very much.” Contact: YOUR Representative. Find him/her here: www.GovTrack.us Rep. Glenn Grothman (introduced H.R. 8511) at: Contact | U.S. Representative Glenn Grothman. Phone: (202) 225-2476   It was referred to these 4 Committees. Please contact them: House Committee on Small Business, Republican/Majority Office Contact | House Committee on Small Business Phone: (202) 225-5821   House Committee on Small Business, Democratic/Minority Office Contact | Small Business Committee Phone: (202) 225-4038   Committee on Oversight and Government Reform United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Phone: (202) 225-5074   House Armed Services Committee Contact | House Armed Services Committee Phone: 202-225-4151   House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure Contact Us | Transportation and Infrastructure Committee Phone: (202) 225-9446   Regarding the Senate bill … Text - S.4390 - 119th Congress (2025-2026): Ending Discrimination in Government Contracting Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress. Please contact the following and say something like this: “I oppose S. 4390 because it will eliminate the Woman-Owned Small Business federal contracting program and gut other programs that help small businesses compete for federal contracts. Please do all in your power to prevent S. 4390 from advancing. Thank you very much.” Contact: YOUR two Senators. Find them here: www.GovTrack.us   Sen. Mike Lee (introduced S 4390) at: Contact - Mike Lee US Senator for Utah. Phone: 202-224-5444   It was referred to this Committee. Please contact them:   Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Contact the Committee - Committee on Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs Phone: (202) 224-4751   And contact the U.S. Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship Contact Information - U.S. Committee on Small Business & Entrepreneurship Call 202.224.5175 for the Republican/Majority line. Call 202.224.0507 for the Democratic/Minority line.   The American Small Business League (www.ASBL.com) works to stop the diversion of small business contracts to big businesses. Many new jobs would get created and the economy would boom if “small business” contracts didn’t go to big businesses. Our www.DontCheatWomen.com project works to raise the Woman-Owned Small Business contracting goal from 5% to 15%.   99% OF WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES SAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HASN’T DONE ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THEM, SURVEY FINDS, March 3, 2023, GovExec.com. “89 percent of women small-business owners said they feel they are not on a level playing field with men who own businesses. Central to that feeling of neglect are continued challenges in getting certified as a women-owned small business through the (SBA) … to compete for more federal contracts … the process to get certified is cumbersome and time-consuming … and many don’t feel it’s worth the struggle. Only 36 percent of the businesses surveyed by Goldman Sachs were certified, and of those, 58 percent said the process was difficult and 42 percent said they didn’t feel it was worth the benefits.”

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  2. ASBL 69, Alex Kelloff, House Candidate, Colorado District 3, May 19, 2026

    MAY 19

    ASBL 69, Alex Kelloff, House Candidate, Colorado District 3, May 19, 2026

    ASBL 69, Alex Kelloff, House Candidate, Colorado District 3, May 19, 2026 The American Small Business League spoke with Alex Kelloff, running for Congress as a Democrat in Colorado District-3. From www.AlexKelloff.com: “Alex Kelloff is an accomplished entrepreneur, financial executive and committed community advocate whose family’s Colorado heritage dates back to 1893.” Priorities “We need elected representation in Washington that fights for the values and interests of communities like those in CD3 and the rural west, not those of the coastal elites, special interests or the unaccountable billionaire class. That is why I have built a grassroots effort over the last year. A campaign that is supported by and for the people, which is why I am not taking any corporate PAC money.” [Emphasis added.] Lowering the Cost of Living and Supporting Local Economies Expanding Access to Affordable Healthcare Protecting Public Lands, Water, and the Environment Restoring the Rule of Law Holding Government Accountable Reducing the Federal Debt and Strengthening the Economy Protecting the Right to Vote Getting Money Out of Politics And more… About Alex “Early in his career, Alex worked with the U.S. government as an IT and network specialist … holding a Top Secret clearance while embedded [as a civilian] with the United States Marine Corps at the Pentagon and Quantico. … he earned a masters [of Science in Telecommunications] at night and on the weekends from Johns Hopkins University, where he graduated with a perfect grade point average … he pivoted to … working for telecoms firms globally. This experience led him to business school (MBA) … [Then] Alex spent 14 years at Jefferies, leading $20B+ of transactions in the telecoms industry [which] supported many early-stage companies, which [built] critical infrastructure. He went on to help start SDC Capital Partners, where he played a key role in starting and operating companies to develop Internet infrastructure. These companies have created thousands of good jobs (often trades and union jobs) and are working to close the digital divide in places like CD3.” We also discussed our small business concerns. The American Small Business League (www.ASBL.com) wants Congress to stop big businesses from getting small business contracts. (Small businesses would create many, maybe millions, of jobs with those contracts and the economy would boom.) Our www.DontCheatWomen.com project wants Congress to: Raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses. Women own 40% of American businesses and sell what the government buys – but companies owned by men get over 95% of federal contract dollars, and that must change. We also want people to contact Congress and the Senate to oppose a bill that would wipe out the federal contracting goals for minority and Women-Owned Small Businesses (WOSBs). If passed it would hurt thousands of businesses, deprive the economy of hundreds of thousands of new jobs, decrease competition, weaken the federal supply chain, and steer probably 100% of federal contracting dollars to companies owned by men. See what you can do in our May 14, 2026, Substack called, Save Minority-Owned and Women-Owned Small Businesses. #alexkellofforcongress #americansmallbusinessleague #dontcheatwomen #federalcontracts #smallbusinesscontracts

    38 min
  3. ASBL 68, Bernard Taylor, House Candidate, Florida District 21, May 15, 2026

    MAY 15

    ASBL 68, Bernard Taylor, House Candidate, Florida District 21, May 15, 2026

    ASBL 68, Bernard Taylor, House Candidate, Florida District 21, May 15, 2026 The American Small Business League spoke with Bernard Taylor, running for Congress as a Democrat in Florida’s District 21. From his site, www.BernardTaylorForCongress.com: “Bernard Taylor is a dedicated EMT/Paramedic, husband, father of five, and community advocate who has spent years serving and protecting the people of Florida.” “Now, he's running for Congress to fight for the people our elected congressional representatives are ignoring. Bernard was inspired to run to represent his community after seeing how the disparities in access to affordable healthcare … resulted in the death of a diabetic patient who had to ration insulin due to the high cost. This loss was a stark reminder of the real human cost of systemic inequities. Witnessing firsthand how individuals and families are forced to make impossible choices between life-sustaining medication and basic necessities fueled his determination to change things.” Top issues in your District? “The cost of living. Healthcare. And the environment. Those are the top three issues here.” “The cost of living is probably 75% of what’s on everybody’s mind. … here in the State of Florida … There are a lot of retirees in my community on fixed incomes, and those are not stretching as far as they did a year and a half ago. If we don’t do something soon, there will be a lot of people struggling a whole lot worse than they already are.” Housing, Education, and Economic Growth are also among Bernard’s top priorities. To learn more and see how you can help, visit www.BernardTaylorForCongress.com. The American Small Business League (www.asbl.com) wants Congress to stop big businesses from getting small business contracts. (Small businesses would create millions of jobs with those contracts and the economy would boom.) Our www.DontCheatWomen.com project wants Congress to: Raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses (they own 40% of American businesses and sell what the government buys – but companies owned by men get over 95% of federal contract dollars, and that must change), define a small business as 100 or less employees, and make the Small Business Administration prove that small business contracts go to small businesses. We also want people to contact Congress and the Senate to oppose a bill that would wipe out the federal contracting goals for minority and Women-Owned Small Businesses (WOSBs). If passed it would hurt thousands of businesses, deprive the economy of hundreds of thousands of new jobs, decrease competition, weaken the federal supply chain, and steer probably 100% of federal contracting dollars to companies owned by men. To see what you can do, go to www.ASBL.Substack.com and read our May 14, 2026, piece called, Save Minority-Owned and Women-Owned Small Businesses. #bernardtaylorforcongress #americansmallbusinessleague #dontcheatwomen #federalcontracts #smallbusinesscontracts

    28 min
  4. ASBL 67, Jenn Brothers, House Candidate, Pennsylvania District 9, April 28, 2026

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    ASBL 67, Jenn Brothers, House Candidate, Pennsylvania District 9, April 28, 2026

    ASBL 67, Jenn Brothers, House Candidate, Pennsylvania District 9, April 28, 2026 The American Small Business League spoke with Jenn Brothers, running for Congress as an independent in Pennsylvania’s District 9. From her website, www.JennBrothersForCongress.com: “Jenn grew up rurally in the Rust Belt and Coal Country and chose Pennsylvania as her home. She’s a mother, knows what it means to be a union member, and is a dedicated advocate who has spent her life standing alongside everyday families. From caring for her grandfather, a World War II veteran, to restoring her 1840s home, to her career as an investigator, Jenn brings heart, experience, and a deep love for her community to everything she does. She fights for fairness, opportunity, and a government that works for the people not special interests.” Jenn’s Priorities: Strong Support for Rural Communities Healthcare That Works for Everyone A Fairer Economy Investing in Education and Opportunity Protecting the Vulnerable, Defending Justice Protecting Our Environment and Privacy Fixing Washington and Restoring Trust The American Small Business League (www.asbl.com) wants Congress to stop big businesses from getting small business contracts (small businesses would create millions of jobs with those contracts and the economy would boom). Our www.DontCheatWomen.com project wants Congress to: ·        Raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses. It’s not DEI or affirmative action. They own 40% of American businesses and sell what the government buys – but companies owned by men get over 95% of federal contract dollars, and that must change. ·        Define a small business as 100 or less employees. ·        Make the Small Business Administration prove that small business contracts go to small businesses (and give the SBA a budget and staff as big as its mission, which is to help the 99.9% of all firms in America that are small businesses). #jennbrothersforcongress #americansmallbusinessleague #dontcheatwomen #federalcontracts #smallbusinesscontracts

    24 min
  5. ASBL 66, Evan Hunt, House Candidate, Texas District 3, April 23, 2026

    APR 23

    ASBL 66, Evan Hunt, House Candidate, Texas District 3, April 23, 2026

    ASBL 66, Evan Hunt, House Candidate, Texas District 3, April 23, 2026 The American Small Business League spoke with Evan Hunt, a Democrat running for Congress in Texas District 3. His website is www.ElectEvanHunt.com, and it says: “Evan Hunt is a [20-year U.S. Air Force] veteran and combat aviator, a community and business leader, and a Texas family man … running for U.S. Congress in Texas, as a Democrat, to take our country back from extremist agendas and to better represent the diverse people of the 3rd district.” “Evan is committed to protecting … constitutional integrity, the rule of law, and a government that works for all.” “Following his military career, Evan transitioned into the defense and aerospace industry, where he has held executive roles at leading companies — including publicly traded corporations like Raytheon, private equity-backed firms, and venture-backed startups [giving him] deep experience in national security, emerging technologies, and global strategy.” “Evan obtained his Bachelor’s degree … a double-major in History and Political Science [and] completed his Master’s degree in International Relations & Conflict Resolution at the American Military University. [He has] a global perspective and a local sense of responsibility.” The American Small Business League (www.asbl.com) wants Congress to stop big businesses from getting small business contracts (small businesses would create millions of jobs with those contracts and the economy would boom). Our www.DontCheatWomen.com project wants Congress to: ·        Raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses. It’s not DEI or affirmative action. They own 40% of American businesses and sell what the government buys – but companies owned by men get over 95% of federal contract dollars, and that must change. ·        Define a small business as 100 or less employees. ·        Make the Small Business Administration prove that small business contracts go to small businesses (and give the SBA a budget and staff as big as its mission, which is to help the 99.9% of all firms in America which are small businesses). #electevanhunt #americansmallbusinessleague #dontcheatwomen #federalcontracts #smallbusinesscontracts

    37 min
  6. ASBL 65, Jon Harris, House Candidate, Florida District 16, April 22, 2026

    APR 22

    ASBL 65, Jon Harris, House Candidate, Florida District 16, April 22, 2026

    ASBL 65, Jon Harris, House Candidate, Florida District 16, April 22, 2026 The American Small Business League spoke with Jon Harris, a Democrat running for Congress in Florida’s District 16. Jon is (from his website, www.JonHarrisForCongress.com) “a proud U.S. Army veteran, technology professional, husband, and father who has dedicated his life to service — both in uniform and in his community. … raised in a military family, Jon grew up with a deep respect for discipline, duty, and country [which] led him to enlist in the Army at just 20 years old, beginning a career that would span … two decades across active duty and reserve service.” “Jon lives in his district and continues to serve his nation as a Warrant Officer in the U.S. Army Reserve while working as a Senior Information Security Advisor supporting U.S. Special Operations Command.” He’s running to create “The Growth Economy,” his plan to lower costs, grow good-paying jobs, and give families in his district a fair shot at success. “Families are paying more for healthcare, housing, groceries, and insurance while wages struggle to keep up. The Growth Economy delivers measurable results: lower bills, stronger competition, and economic growth that people can actually feel at home. The American Small Business League (www.asbl.com) wants Congress to stop big businesses from getting small business contracts (small businesses would create millions of jobs with those contracts and the economy would boom). Our www.DontCheatWomen.com project wants Congress to: ·        Raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses. It’s not DEI or affirmative action. They own 40% of American businesses and sell what the government buys – but companies owned by men get over 95% of federal contract dollars, and that must change. ·        Define a small business as 100 or less employees. ·        Make the Small Business Administration prove that small business contracts go to small businesses (and give the SBA a budget and staff as big as its mission, which is to help the 99.9% of all firms in America which are small businesses). #jonharrisforcongress #americansmallbusinessleague #dontcheatwomen #federalcontracts #smallbusinesscontracts

    25 min
  7. ASBL 64, Troy Green, U.S. Senate Candidate, Oklahoma, April 22, 2026

    APR 22

    ASBL 64, Troy Green, U.S. Senate Candidate, Oklahoma, April 22, 2026

    ASBL 64, Troy Green, U.S. Senate Candidate, Oklahoma, April 22, 2026 The American Small Business League spoke with Troy Green, a Democrat running for the U.S. Senate in Oklahoma. Troy worked his way up from foster care and homelessness by always keeping his word and by out-working everyone else in the room (with a commitment to doing the best job possible). Troy earned multiple black belts on his way to becoming a successful businessman who taught martials arts for over 30 years. Troy also founded Safe Haven Oklahoma, a nonprofit that fights human trafficking and child exploitation. He has served as a police officer and worked in juvenile detention and private security. He and his wife are the proud parents of a Marine. Troy’s website, www.TroyGreenForSenate.com, says: “The Green Agenda is a 5-bill plan focusing on the issues affecting everyday Oklahomans: housing, education, safety, economic security, and rural opportunity.” The American Small Business League (www.asbl.com) wants Congress to stop big businesses from getting small business contracts (small businesses would create millions of jobs with those contracts and the economy would boom). Our www.DontCheatWomen.com project wants Congress to: ·        Raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses. It’s not DEI or affirmative action. They own 40% of American businesses and sell what the government buys – but companies owned by men get over 95% of federal contract dollars, and that must change. ·        Define a small business as 100 or less employees. ·        Make the Small Business Administration prove that small business contracts go to small businesses (and give the SBA a budget and staff as big as its mission, which is to help the 99.9% of all firms in America which are small businesses). #troygreenforsenate #americansmallbusinessleague #dontcheatwomen #federalcontracts #smallbusinesscontracts

    41 min
  8. ASBL 63, Chris Bennett, House Candidate, CA District 3, April 20, 2026

    APR 20

    ASBL 63, Chris Bennett, House Candidate, CA District 3, April 20, 2026

    ASBL 63, Chris Bennett, House Candidate, CA District 3, April 20, 2026 The American Small Business League spoke with Chris Bennett, who is running for Congress as a Democrat in California’s District 3, which goes from Southeast Sacramento in Sacramento County, north through Placer County and includes all of Nevada County and much of El Dorado County east to Nevada's western border. His website is www.BennettForCA.com. Chris is a disabled Army veteran whose top priorities include affordable housing and groceries, public homeowners’ insurance, healthcare & big pharma. He is a former tech worker and community activist who comes from “a working-class military background, so I understand the needs of everyday people and how poverty fuels our system.” Chris said, near the end, “I want every single person to live in dignity and safety.” The American Small Business League (www.asbl.com) wants Congress to stop big businesses from getting small business contracts (small businesses would create millions of jobs with those contracts and the economy would boom). Our www.DontCheatWomen.com project wants Congress to: ·        Raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses. It’s not DEI or affirmative action. They own 40% of American businesses and they sell what the government buys – but companies owned by men get over 95% of federal contract dollars, and that must change. ·        Define a small business as 100 or less employees. ·        Make the Small Business Administration prove that small business contracts go to small businesses (and give the SBA a budget and staff as big as its mission, which is to help the 99.9% of all firms in America which are small businesses). #bennettforca #americansmallbusinessleague #dontcheatwomen #federalcontracts #smallbusinesscontracts

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Lloyd Chapman is Founder and President of the American Small Business League (ASBL.com), working to stop the diversion of small business contracts to big businesses. Our DontCheatWomen.com project seeks to raise from 5% to 15% the federal contract dollars that must go to women-owned small businesses.   Bruce de Torres is Director of Communications for the American Small Business League and author of GOD, SCHOOL, 9/11 AND JFK: The Lies That Are Killing Us and The Truth That Sets Us Free. (Read the amazing reviews at brucedetorres.com.)

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