cofounded

Matthew Clark, Ethan Paulson, Josh Haynam
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3 Co-Founders who built a bootstrapped business over 14 years talk about business, continue to work on their company, and discuss technology + AI.

Episodes

  1. 4d ago

    5: Cracker Barrel AI, Sad Wives of AI, AI ROI

    The conversation covers a range of topics, including the excitement for the World Cup, the surge in Cracker Barrel stock, financial advice disclaimer, consumer sentiment and economic outlook, AI impact on business operations, AI investment and return on investment, quality of AI-driven product development, and micro-SaaS and AI impact on product offerings. The conversation delves into the future of AI plugins and microtransactions, the potential of microtransactions in ChatGPT, consumer reluctance and viability of microtransactions in AI, behavior change and user experience in AI, the rise of AI chatbots and human behavior, user experience with chatbots and voice AI, the psychology of AI adoption and user behavior, the alignment of AI chatbots and social algorithms, the impact of AI on human relationships, and the dystopian nature of AI adoption and its effects. The discussion also explores the mythical phase and reality of AI adoption, emphasizing the need for action and execution in the AI space. Takeaways World Cup excitement is building upAI investment and return on investment are critical for business success The potential for microtransactions and specialized plugins in AI is a key area of explorationUser behavior and adoption of AI chatbots and voice AI are influenced by social algorithms and user experienceThe impact of AI on human relationships and societal behavior is a significant consideration in AI adoption Chapters 00:00 The World Cup Excitement06:10 Consumer Sentiment and Economic Outlook15:13 AI Investment and Return on Investment22:12 Quality of AI-Driven Product Development27:29 The Future of AI Plugins and Microtransactions33:13 The Rise of AI Chatbots and Human Behavior39:01 The Alignment of AI Chatbots and Social Algorithms45:30 The Mythical Phase and Reality of AI Adoption

    49 min

  2. May 29

    4: AI Layoffs Continue, Taste is the new Product MOAT

    The conversation covers a range of topics, from the excitement for the upcoming World Cup to nostalgic memories of playing 'Hall Ball' at UCLA. It delves into the acquisition of Everlane and the impact of layoffs in the market. The discussion also explores the future of software companies and the potential shift towards a service-oriented approach. The conversation delves into the allure of chasing unicorns in the startup world, the gambling nature of startup funding, and the risks associated with bootstrapping versus raising funds. It also explores the impact of AI token costs on companies, the human element in AI design, and the importance of taste and craft in design. Additionally, it highlights the role of emotion in product development and the human factor in AI implementation. Takeaways Excitement for the upcoming World CupNostalgic memories of 'Hall Ball' at UCLAImpact of layoffs in the marketThe future of software companies and a potential shift towards a service-oriented approach The allure of unicorn chasing in startupsThe importance of taste and craft in design Chapters 00:00 World Cup Excitement05:36 Unmarked Plain and Everlane23:33 The Future of Software Companies29:20 The Allure of Unicorn Chasing35:01 The Impact of AI Token Costs on Companies46:09 The Human Element in AI Design51:37 The Role of Emotion in Product Development

    58 min

  3. May 13

    3: AI Layoffs, or Layoff AI?

    The conversation covers a range of topics, including vacation stories, wedding celebrations, the impact of AI on traditional businesses, OpenAI's consulting company, the future of AI, the role of AI in the software development industry, the Nutmeg Moment, and the cost of AI integration and layoffs. The conversation delves into the impact of AI on companies, the relationship between layoffs and AI, and the rebranding of Intercom to Fin.ai. The discussion highlights the challenges and opportunities presented by AI integration and the implications of strategic decisions made by companies in response to market trends. The conversation delves into the constant evolution of AI models, the unpredictability of the AI market, and the potential triggers for an AI bubble burst. It also explores public perception, fun conversations, and appreciation for the audience, concluding with closing remarks and farewells. Takeaways AI's impact on traditional businessesThe future of AI and OpenAI's consulting company AI's impact on companies is a complex and evolving landscapeLayoffs are often attributed to AI, but the reality is more nuancedIntercom's rebranding to Fin.ai raises questions about the future of AI in customer service AI models require constant updates and financial investmentThe AI market is unpredictable and subject to rapid growthPublic perception and real-world impact of AI are important considerations Chapters 00:00 Vacation Stories and Wedding Celebrations08:03 OpenAI's Consulting Company and the Future of AI13:06 The Role of AI in the Software Development Industry18:25 The Cost of AI Integration and Layoffs30:08 Intercom's Rebranding to Fin.ai41:27 The Constant Evolution of AI Models46:36 Slow Pullback and Moderate Predictions55:22 Fun Airplane Liveries and World Events

    57 min

  4. Apr 17

    2: Allbirds AI, E-Commerce Opportunity, AI Messy Middle

    The conversation covers the news of Allbirds pivoting from a shoe company to an AI company, the potential reasons for this pivot, and the implications of such a move. The discussion also explores the challenges and opportunities in the e-commerce and physical product space, as well as the concept of creating a new brand focused on unmarked, plain products. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, including the use of AI in business, the impact of AI on workforce productivity, the integration of AI into daily workflows, and the challenges and opportunities presented by AI adoption. The discussion also touches on the use of wearables, the impact of global instability on business decisions, and the evolution of technology in the workplace. Takeaways Allbirds' pivot from a shoe company to an AI company reflects the challenges and pressures faced by companies in the e-commerce and physical product space.The idea of creating a new brand focused on unmarked, plain products presents an interesting and potentially fun challenge, offering insights into sourcing, distribution, and e-commerce.The conversation highlights the potential for viral product ideas and the value of exploring new business concepts through creative exercises. AI adoption is leading to a significant shift in the way businesses operate, impacting workflows and job roles.The integration of AI into daily workflows presents both challenges and opportunities for businesses and employees. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Allbirds Pivot to AI Company08:00 Reflections on Allbirds' Product and Business Model20:13 Exploring the Concept of Unmarked, Plain Products27:51 Exploring AI Integration in Business37:27 The Rise of Wearables and Technology in the Workplace50:32 The Impact of Global Instability on Business Decisions

    49 min

  5. Apr 5

    Episode 1: Cut This

    Where it all begins, 14 years after it began. The Three Co-Founders of Interact jump on air to discuss random topics, kicking off the next chapter of our journey as cofounders.

    1h 1m
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3 Co-Founders who built a bootstrapped business over 14 years talk about business, continue to work on their company, and discuss technology + AI.

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    Matthew Clark, Ethan Paulson, Josh Haynam
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