As It Turned Out

Pannonica Z Maruna

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This is the podcast about the messy, beautiful process of figuring it out as we go. We’re not here for perfect paths, we’re here for the moments of doubt, the big pivots, and the quiet wins that don’t make it onto LinkedIn. we’re talking about what it actually looks like to grow, adapt, and make your own way — one unexpected move at a time.

Jun 29

TANYA FIRST

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Tanya First, Vice President of Field Operations at Buffalo Exchange; a leader passionate about people, mentorship, and building a career with purpose. We talk through the experiences that shaped her journey, the unexpected turns along the way, and what leadership looks like after nearly 30 years of growing within one company. Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.
Jun 1

JOHN STERLING

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with John Sterling: an environmental leader and advocate passionate about conservation, community, and creating meaningful impact. We talk through the experiences that shaped his journey, the unexpected turns along the way, and what leadership looks like when your work is driven by purpose. Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.
May 19

TAMMY SMITH

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Tammy Smith: a retired Major General, leadership advisor, and advocate known for leading with authenticity, courage, and purpose. We talk through the experiences that shaped her journey, from serving at the highest levels of the U.S. Army to becoming a powerful voice for inclusive leadership and meaningful change. Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.
Apr 10

ARNOLD STRONG

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Arnold Strong, a leader whose journey is rooted in service, resilience, and perspective.We talk through the moments that defined his path; from growing up in California to serving in the military, and how those experiences shaped the way he leads, thinks, and shows up today.Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.
Apr 2

CLAUDIA BRIND-WOODY

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Claudia Brind-Woody: a global technology leader, advocate, and changemaker whose career spans business, athletics, and groundbreaking work in LGBTQ+ and women’s leadership. We talk through the moments that shaped her path—from her early roots in athletics to leading at the highest levels of IBM, and how she’s used her platform to drive meaningful change and open doors for others. Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.
Mar 24

JOHN CRAFT

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with John Craft: a sales and business development leader who blends strategy, creativity, and a talent for building high-performing teams. We talk through the moments that shaped his path, from where he started to how he learned to lead, sell, and think differently at the highest level. Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.
11/14/2025

OLIVER LEONETTI

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Oliver Leonetti: an entrepreneur, strategist, and community-builder whose work blends creativity, business intuition, and a bias toward action. We dig into the twists that shaped his path—from early projects that taught him how to build from scratch to the ventures and leadership experiences that pushed him to think bigger, move faster, and stay grounded in purpose. Oliver shares what he’s learned about following momentum, taking smart risks, and designing a life where curiosity becomes a competitive advantage. Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.
09/30/2025

HERMAN D'HOOGE

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Herman D’Hooge: a technologist, innovator, and mentor whose career spans engineering, design, and organizational transformation. We explore the unexpected turns that shaped his path from leading at Intel to rethinking how people and organizations thrive and the insights he’s gained about embracing curiosity, connecting dots, and challenging the status quo. Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.
09/11/2025

ANDY ROBBINS

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Andy Robbins: whose path spans creativity, leadership, and lifelong learning. We dive into the twists that took him from Intel to founding Oyster PDX, the lessons he didn’t see coming, and why getting off-script was the best thing that could’ve happened. Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.
09/10/2025

TODD GRECO

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Todd Greco: a design leader, strategist, and educator whose journey spans architecture, tech, and creative direction. We talk about the vision he had early on, the pivots he didn’t expect, and how each chapter shaped how he leads today. From design studios to DJ booths, Todd shares honest reflections on uncertainty, reinvention, and staying grounded through change, offering insight into what it really means to carve your own path. Because nothing ever turns out how we expected.
07/30/2025

FRANZ MARUNA

In this episode of As It Turned Out, I sit down with Franz Maruna: a tech founder and creative builder with a path that’s anything but linear. We talk about where he is now, the future he imagined after high school, and the unexpected turns that shaped his journey. From odd side gigs to shifts in identity and perspective, Franz shares honest reflections on what it really means to grow, adapt, and let go of the script. Because nothing ever turns out how we expected. Let’s get into it.

11 Episodes

This is the podcast about the messy, beautiful process of figuring it out as we go. We’re not here for perfect paths, we’re here for the moments of doubt, the big pivots, and the quiet wins that don’t make it onto LinkedIn. we’re talking about what it actually looks like to grow, adapt, and make your own way — one unexpected move at a time.

Creator

Pannonica Z Maruna
Years Active

2026
Episodes

11
Rating

Explicit
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© 2026 Pannonica Z Maruna
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As It Turned Out