Open Internet Pod

Saito Network

The internet was never supposed to belong to anyone. Somewhere along the way the internet turned into the corpo-net. The Open Internet Podcast is a show about the quiet transformation happening beneath the surface of the web — and why it matters more than most people realise. Each episode, we sit down with builders, thinkers, policy advocates, and technologists to examine the forces that are reshaping the internet from an open network into something increasingly managed, monetised, and controlled. We call this process Enclosure. It shows up in the legislation that mandates scanning of your private messages in the name of safety. It shows up in the operating system update that removes a feature you depended on. It shows up in the app store policy that decides which software you're allowed to run on hardware you own. It shows up at the airport, when a viral post with six million views tells you to delete your social media apps before you cross the border — and you think: yeah, that sounds right. Enclosure isn't the story of villains. It's the story of incentives. When the economics of the internet reward controlling chokepoints over delivering value, closure becomes the rational business model. The platforms don't turn extractive because the people running them changed. They turn extractive because the system was always going to get here. The Open Internet Podcast exists because we believe the answer to that isn't rhetorical. It has to be architectural and economic. We explore what it looks like to build infrastructure that stays open not by goodwill or policy alone, but by design — where the economics make closure structurally irrational. This is not a nostalgia project. The open internet isn't something we lost. It's something we still have the chance to build.

  1. Oct 4

    No ID, No Internet: Europe’s Big Digital Gamble

    The internet is being turned into a permissioned space, one gate at a time. Richard Paris and Alex unpack why mandatory digital IDs, age verification, cash limits, and outsourced censorship are not just "safety" measures - they are a slow rewrite of who gets to access the web, use money, and speak freely. Richard Paris, co-founder of Sato, breaks down the deeper pattern behind these policies: systems that look sophisticated on paper but are never judged by real-world effectiveness, only by rollout targets and PowerPoint success. Alex pushes the conversation further into the practical consequences - from financial friction and debanking to censorship-by-proxy, where private companies absorb political responsibility while users are left with no appeal. You'll discover: Why zero-knowledge proofs and privacy tech can still fail in the real world when the surrounding ecosystem is broken How AML, cash limits, and digital IDs shift control from public institutions to private gatekeepers Why censorship increasingly happens through "trusted" third parties, NGOs, platforms, and platform policy rather than direct state action How the same logic creates a chilling effect for ordinary users, vulnerable communities, journalists, and anyone who values privacy Why open, permissionless networks and user-controlled ID systems may become the escape hatch Richard and Alex also connect the dots to the broader incentives at play: governments avoiding accountability, vendors selling solutions that are never truly audited, and platforms quietly normalizing a world where access depends on approval. The result is a digital caste system where some people glide through while everyone else is forced to ask permission. If you've ever felt the web getting more locked down, more corporate, and less human, this conversation explains why. Essential listening for anyone who cares about digital freedom, privacy, open networks, and what happens when the public internet starts behaving like a private mall. Timestamps: 0:00 — Episode teaser 1:04 — Digital IDs and internet control 2:51 — Do security measures actually work? 3:57 — Privacy tech and the online-ID industry 5:40 — The ecosystem around digital identity 7:17 — Risk management and regulatory failure 9:25 — Misaligned incentives in regulation 11:54 — Financial controls and data control 15:28 — Censorship and trusted fact checkers 18:49 — Platforms, X, and social media control 22:27 — Privacy, vulnerability, and the chilling effect 27:42 — Digital caste systems and online sovereignty 29:16 — User-controlled identity and open networks 33:09 — Open protocols and the decline of open APIs 35:46 — Market-based privacy and data sovereignty 41:05 — Capital controls and restricted internet access 46:51 — Spreading awareness and protecting the open internet 53:18 — The dark web and free communication

  2. Sep 20

    Why the Revolut Hack Matters

    Why do major data breaches keep happening—and why do the usual fixes often make the underlying problem worse? Alex and Richard unpack the systemic incentives behind identity-data collection, KYC/AML requirements, and the growing number of organizations storing sensitive personal information. They explore regulatory capture, centralized digital identity, social-engineering attacks, and why simply building “thicker walls” is not enough. The conversation also looks at data minimization, cryptographic identity, decentralization, and how user-controlled systems could reduce both the value of breach targets and the cost of attacks. Timestamps: 00:00 Why data breaches keep happening 01:06 The business of stolen identities 02:07 Why we keep collecting so much personal data 06:32 Scope creep and outsourced verification 08:47 From KYC to “cover your ass” 10:28 How regulatory capture takes hold 14:59 Security as a cat-and-mouse game 16:11 When everyone becomes a data custodian 18:45 The erosion of security standards 23:28 How a “concertina” attack works 25:10 Rethinking the entire system 27:24 Data minimization: collect less 30:53 Cryptographic identity and private keys 33:09 Anonymous, pseudonymous, and public identity 34:45 The limits of centralized digital ID 37:41 Ransomware and denial-of-service risk 39:22 Why brute-force attacks are so cheap 41:33 Designing incentives that punish attacks 43:07 Who really bears the cost of regulation? 44:47 AI, incumbents, and regulatory capture 48:40 How tracking and control became the business model 52:09 What digital surveillance would feel like in real life 53:47 Blockchain, privacy, and public networks 55:00 Changing the economics of tracking

  3. Sep 6

    Crypto vs AI Bubble

    The AI boom is starting to look a lot like the crypto bubble, and the warning signs are getting harder to ignore. Alex and Richard unpack how overpromising, circular financing, inflated valuations, and a flood of hype can turn a promising technology into a market built on stories instead of fundamentals. They start with the latest tech and product updates from Soto, including the revised website and what’s changing before launch, then move into the bigger question: why do bubbles keep forming around the same playbook? From crypto’s collapse to today’s AI gold rush, this episode connects the dots between hype cycles, VC incentives, and the pressure to scale before the actual use case is proven. You’ll discover: why AI hallucinations are more than just a technical flaw and why “hallucination” may be a polite word for lying how LLMs can be genuinely useful for coding while still falling far short of AGI claims why biometric KYC and age-verification systems are easier to bypass than regulators admit how Sony’s “you don’t own your games” email reveals the shrinking meaning of ownership in digital platforms why the most dangerous bubbles are the ones that need you to believe the future will pay for the present If you care about AI, crypto, digital ownership, privacy, or the next bubble everyone is pretending not to see, this one is essential listening. Timestamps: 0:00 — Introduction and Stream Check 0:00 — Latest Developments in the Soto Project 0:00 — The Vision of Soto as a Network, Not Just a Platform 0:00 — Disintermediation and Peer-to-Peer Technology 0:41 — The Current State of the AI Bubble and Overpromising 5:39 — AI Capabilities and Limitations 11:24 — Ownership, Privacy, and Surveillance in Digital Goods 14:23 — The Problem with Digital Identity Verification 17:11 — The Shift from Ownership to Licensing in Digital Goods 23:23 — The Overvaluation of Tech Companies and Market Hype 30:29 — The Race for AI Valuations and Market Dominance 34:43 — The VC Model and Incentives in Tech Bubbles 42:33 — Subsidies, Costs, and the Economics of AI 49:32 — Fundamentals and Obfuscation in Tech Projects 54:02 — Simplifying Complex Systems and Incentives 57:44 — The Decline of Trust and Reliance on State and Platforms 59:11 — Conclusion and Next Steps

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The internet was never supposed to belong to anyone. Somewhere along the way the internet turned into the corpo-net. The Open Internet Podcast is a show about the quiet transformation happening beneath the surface of the web — and why it matters more than most people realise. Each episode, we sit down with builders, thinkers, policy advocates, and technologists to examine the forces that are reshaping the internet from an open network into something increasingly managed, monetised, and controlled. We call this process Enclosure. It shows up in the legislation that mandates scanning of your private messages in the name of safety. It shows up in the operating system update that removes a feature you depended on. It shows up in the app store policy that decides which software you're allowed to run on hardware you own. It shows up at the airport, when a viral post with six million views tells you to delete your social media apps before you cross the border — and you think: yeah, that sounds right. Enclosure isn't the story of villains. It's the story of incentives. When the economics of the internet reward controlling chokepoints over delivering value, closure becomes the rational business model. The platforms don't turn extractive because the people running them changed. They turn extractive because the system was always going to get here. The Open Internet Podcast exists because we believe the answer to that isn't rhetorical. It has to be architectural and economic. We explore what it looks like to build infrastructure that stays open not by goodwill or policy alone, but by design — where the economics make closure structurally irrational. This is not a nostalgia project. The open internet isn't something we lost. It's something we still have the chance to build.