Jesus and Ugly Jody

Jody Corbet

Jesus and Ugly Jody – with Jody Corbet Faith isn’t always polished. Life isn’t always pretty. And neither are the people Jesus chooses to use. Jesus and Ugly Jody is a raw, honest conversation about faith, failure, redemption, and the reality of walking with Christ in a broken world. Pastor Jody Corbet shares real stories, hard truths, and biblical insight for people who know they don’t have it all together. This podcast isn’t about perfect Christians. It’s about grace. From personal struggles to cultural issues, Jody explores what it really means to follow Jesus when life is messy, when

  1. Aug 20

    Five Stones Ministry: Using What God Gave You to Face the Giant

    In this special simulcast of The Neil Haley Show, the Storehouse Media Group Podcast, and Jesus and Ugly Jody, Neil “The Media Giant” Haley joins host Jody Corbet for a deeply personal conversation about the vision, purpose, and launch of Five Stones Ministries. Jody explains that the idea came to him years ago while he was serving with the FBI. The name is inspired by the biblical account of David and Goliath in 1 Samuel. David set aside Saul’s armor, went to the battlefield with the ability he already possessed, and selected five stones from a creek. God could have defeated Goliath in countless ways, but He chose a shepherd boy who was willing to step forward and use what was already in his hands. That lesson became the foundation of Five Stones Ministries: bringing together people with different gifts, skills, and talents and forming teams willing to serve God and the wider body of Christ. Jody says no individual can do everything, but when faithful people combine their strengths, they can confront enormous problems and “sling the first stone.” Five Stones Ministries is a church based in Longboat Key, Florida, with an online presence designed to reach people around the world. Services are held on Thursday evenings so participants can remain connected to and active in their community churches on Sundays. At the center of the church is the good news of Jesus Christ—His love for every person, His sacrifice for sin, and the freedom He offers from guilt, shame, and spiritual bondage. Jody then outlines the ministry’s first major priorities. The Widows Fund will help qualified widows meet critical housing expenses, which could include mortgage payments, property taxes, or association fees. Guided by 1 Timothy 5, the church will give special priority to the widows of pastors and missionaries. Yet the mission goes beyond financial assistance. Jody wants widows to recognize that God still has a purpose for their lives and that their wisdom and experience can strengthen local churches, young mothers, children, and women facing difficult seasons in marriage. The second initiative, Peacemaker Security, grows out of Jody’s experience as a state trooper and FBI agent, along with his experience adopting two young men. The vision is to unite people from law enforcement, the military, intelligence agencies, and local neighborhoods to mentor young people and create paid community-based security opportunities in areas affected by drugs and gangs. Its objective is direct: reduce violence and eliminate homicides. Jody believes safer neighborhoods can attract legitimate businesses, restore employment, and create lasting community renewal. The remaining “stones” will include pastoral care, support for orphans, and a fifth ministry focus still being prayerfully discerned. When Neil asks about his ultimate goal, Jody’s answer is simple: to do whatever the Lord calls him to do. He reflects honestly on the challenge of surrender for a Type A former law-enforcement officer trained to take control. Sometimes faith requires action; other times it requires stillness. In both cases, obedience means moving—or waiting—when God says so. To learn more or connect with Jody Corbet and Five Stones Ministries, email JodyC@5StonesMinistries.com.

  2. Jul 23

    The Gettysburg Address: Timeless Leadership Lessons for America TodayJesus and Ugly Jody with Jody Corbet

    What can a two-minute speech delivered more than 160 years ago teach modern leaders, business owners, and citizens? In this powerful episode of Jesus and Ugly Jody, host Jody Corbet explores the enduring significance of Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, revealing how its words continue to shape leadership, faith, freedom, and America's identity today. Jody begins by explaining why the Gettysburg Address remains one of the greatest speeches ever delivered. While Lincoln spoke for just over two minutes, his message carried extraordinary depth. Unlike the lengthy speeches common in the 1860s, Lincoln carefully crafted every word to communicate timeless principles rooted in history, Scripture, and the American experiment. The discussion starts with Lincoln's famous opening: "Four score and seven years ago." Jody explains this was not simply poetic language but a biblical reference connected to Psalm 90. By counting back 87 years from 1863, Lincoln intentionally points listeners to the Declaration of Independence, reminding Americans that the Civil War was ultimately a test of the nation's founding principles. Jody emphasizes that America was founded as a new nation, unlike any that had existed before. Rather than being governed by kings or monarchs, the United States introduced the revolutionary concept of self-government. This experiment, grounded in liberty and equality, challenged centuries of political tradition and offered a new vision of freedom to the world. The conversation explores how Lincoln's speech repeatedly points back to the Declaration of Independence and its belief that all people are created equal and endowed by their Creator with unalienable rights. Jody explains that these principles reflect a biblical understanding of human dignity and freedom, arguing that America's founding ideals are deeply connected to Scripture and the belief that rights ultimately come from God rather than government. Jody then examines passages from the Gospel of John and the Book of Revelation, highlighting how Christ's invitation extends to every nation, tribe, language, and people. He connects these biblical themes to America's historical role as a nation that has welcomed people from around the world while preserving its foundational commitment to liberty and faith. Another major focus of the episode is Lincoln's belief that the Civil War was more than a military conflict—it was a test of whether a nation founded on liberty could survive. Jody argues that Lincoln understood America faced both physical and spiritual challenges, making the preservation of the Union essential not only for the nation itself but for the ideals it represented. The discussion expands into what makes America unique. Jody describes the United States as a nation that brings together people from every background under shared constitutional principles instead of ethnic identity. While cultures, languages, and traditions differ, the American identity is built around common ideals of freedom, opportunity, and individual rights protected by law. Neil Haley reflects on how these principles remain relevant today, especially during times of political division. Both agree that while America is not perfect and always has room for improvement, its constitutional system gives citizens the ability—and responsibility—to improve the nation rather than abandon its founding values. To close the episode, Jody reads the Gettysburg Address in its entirety and encourages listeners to study it carefully. He believes Lincoln's brief remarks serve as a continuing reminder that each generation has a responsibility to preserve liberty, defend constitutional government, and ensure that the sacrifices of previous generations were not made in vain.

  3. Jun 18

    What Is Your Center of Gravity? Jody Corbet Explains a Powerful Strategy for Business, Leadership, and Life

    In this insightful episode of Jesus and Ugly Jody, host Jody Corbet explores one of the most important strategic concepts used in military history, organizational leadership, and business growth: the Center of Gravity. Drawing from the teachings of renowned military strategist Carl von Clausewitz, Jody explains how understanding and protecting your center of gravity can determine success or failure in virtually every area of life. Jody begins by defining the concept through its origins in physics and engineering, where a center of gravity is the point at which an object is perfectly balanced. Clausewitz later adapted the idea to military strategy, arguing that every army, nation, organization, and individual possesses a critical source of strength. Identify and remove that source, and the entire system can become unstable or collapse. Protect and understand it, and you build resilience and lasting success. This principle, Jody notes, applies at every level of life. Individuals have a center of gravity, as do businesses, governments, sports teams, and ministries, each with one defining element that drives its mission and effectiveness. To illustrate, Jody turns to the American Revolutionary War. The British strategy focused on conquering cities, controlling territory, and forcing the colonies into submission, an approach demanding enormous resources and manpower. George Washington understood he could not defeat the world's strongest military in a conventional fight, so he adopted a strategy centered on survival and endurance. By preserving his army and extending the conflict, he made time his greatest weapon and ultimately outlasted the British. The conversation then shifts to the Civil War. Abraham Lincoln recognized that preserving the Union was the North's center of gravity, while the Confederacy became heavily dependent on General Robert E. Lee and the Army of Northern Virginia. Once Ulysses S. Grant identified Lee as the Confederacy's operational center of gravity, he pursued him relentlessly, refusing to let Lee regroup and rebuild, and that focus on the true source of Confederate strength ultimately contributed to Union victory. Jody also examines Vietnam through the same lens. The United States viewed the conflict primarily as a fight against the spread of communism, while the Vietnamese saw it as a struggle for national independence and self-determination. By understanding America's vulnerabilities and committing to a long-term fight, North Vietnamese leaders successfully targeted the U.S. center of gravity and eventually achieved their objectives. Moving from military history to personal relationships, Jody explains that understanding another person's center of gravity can dramatically improve communication and conflict resolution. Every individual is motivated by something deeper than what's visible on the surface, and identifying those motivations allows leaders to create alignment, build trust, and develop mutually beneficial outcomes rather than unnecessary friction. One of the most compelling portions centers on organizational trust. Drawing from his FBI experience, Jody argues that the Bureau's center of gravity is the trust of the American people. Regardless of political views or public perception, the FBI's effectiveness ultimately depends on public confidence in its mission, and when that trust is weakened, the organization struggles to fulfill its responsibilities and maintain credibility. Neil Haley reflects on how businesses must identify their own center of gravity. Is it customer relationships? Brand reputation? Expertise? Innovation? Strategic partnerships? According to Jody, there can be only one true center of gravity, the single factor that, if removed, would fundamentally cripple the organization. Identifying that element allows leaders to protect it, strengthen it, and build strategies for long-term sustainability.

  4. Jun 10

    Scaling Smart: Jody Corbet on Hiring, Culture, and Building a Business That Lasts

    In this insightful episode of Jesus and Ugly Jody, host Jody Corbet and Neil Haley dig into one of the most misunderstood challenges facing entrepreneurs today: how to scale a business the right way. While nearly every owner dreams of growth, Jody makes the case that scaling too quickly, hiring too many people too soon, or building infrastructure before establishing core competencies can become a costly mistake. The conversation opens with a trap many entrepreneurs fall into. As businesses start generating revenue, owners often feel pressure to hire, expand operations, and build out large organizational structures. Too often, they discover that increased overhead does not automatically produce increased results. Instead, they end up carrying bigger payrolls, managing more complexity, and losing focus on the very activities that made the company successful in the first place. Jody emphasizes that outsourcing is frequently the first stage of healthy growth. Many successful businesses begin by outsourcing accounting, bookkeeping, scheduling, marketing, and social media management, allowing founders to stay focused on their primary strengths while maintaining operational efficiency. Eventually, though, every company reaches a point where certain functions become too important to leave outsourced and must be brought in-house. A central theme is identifying what the business owner actually does best. Jody encourages entrepreneurs to evaluate their strengths honestly. If the owner excels at technical work, they may need administrative support. If they are gifted at operations, they may need a salesperson. If they are a natural salesperson, they may need someone focused on fulfillment and customer service. The goal isn't simply hiring people, it's hiring people who complement the founder's abilities and free them to focus on the highest-value work in the organization. The discussion also explores how different personalities fit different roles. Some brilliant innovators and engineers create exceptional products but struggle to communicate their value to customers, while others are natural relationship builders who can sell anything but need strong operational support behind the scenes. Understanding these differences helps owners make smarter hiring decisions and avoid placing people in seats that don't match their strengths. Neil shares his own experience using AI tools and automation to cut down on repetitive tasks and free up time for client meetings, podcast interviews, and consulting work. Jody acknowledges the value of AI but offers an important caution: artificial intelligence is a tool, not a replacement for strategic leadership. AI can generate recommendations, but business owners must still weigh those recommendations against their mission, finances, culture, and long-term goals. Bad data produces bad answers, no matter how advanced the technology becomes. One of Jody's strongest points is that hiring decisions should not be based solely on salary or return-on-investment calculations. Culture, he argues, should come first. Every employee who joins becomes a steward of the founder's vision, and the right hire understands not just the business but the mission, values, and purpose behind it. Employees who align with the company's culture contribute to long-term success, while those who simply occupy a seat for a paycheck can slowly erode the company's identity. He compares this to ministry work, where many volunteers serve because they believe deeply in the mission rather than because they're paid. Business leaders, he suggests, should look for that same kind of passion and commitment. Not every employee will match the founder's level of enthusiasm, but they should genuinely understand and support the vision driving the organization forward.

  5. Jun 2

    Scaling from One to Many: Jody Corbet’s Blueprint for Sustainable Business Growth

    What does it take to move from being a one-person operation to building a thriving, scalable business? In this thought-provoking episode of Jesus and Ugly Jody, host Jody Corbet joins Neil Haley to explore the challenges, opportunities, and strategic decisions entrepreneurs face as they attempt to grow their businesses beyond themselves. For many entrepreneurs, the journey begins with expertise. They are highly skilled at a particular craft, service, or profession. Whether they are software developers, consultants, accountants, attorneys, marketers, or tradespeople, they launch businesses because they are exceptionally good at what they do. However, as Jody explains, being an expert at a skill and being capable of building a scalable company are two entirely different things. One of the first questions Jody asks his clients is simple but powerful: What do you want your business to look like three, five, or ten years from now? The answer to that question shapes every decision that follows. Some entrepreneurs simply want to create a comfortable income doing work they enjoy. Others want to build organizations that can eventually be sold, passed down to family members, or transformed into legacy businesses that create wealth and opportunity for generations. Throughout the conversation, Jody emphasizes that growth without direction often leads to frustration. Many business owners begin hiring employees before they have the revenue, systems, or processes necessary to support them. Others invest heavily in marketing without first understanding their ideal customers or their long-term business objectives. The result is often wasted resources, shrinking profits, and unnecessary stress. A major focus of the discussion is the importance of strategic scaling. Jody explains that before entrepreneurs hire full-time employees, they should carefully evaluate what tasks can be outsourced. Services such as bookkeeping, accounting, compliance, legal support, marketing, and administrative functions can often be handled by specialized professionals or vendors. This allows founders to remain focused on the activities that generate revenue and drive growth. Neil adds another layer to the conversation by discussing the impact of artificial intelligence on modern business operations. Today’s entrepreneurs have access to tools that can automate content creation, social media management, email outreach, lead generation, appointment scheduling, customer follow-up, and many other repetitive tasks. Instead of hiring large teams immediately, business owners can leverage technology to increase productivity while keeping overhead costs under control. One of the strongest messages from this episode is that founders should remain deeply involved in sales during the early stages of growth. Customers typically buy from people they trust. The founder understands the mission, vision, and value proposition of the company better than anyone else. Handing off sales responsibilities too early can create disconnects between the business and its customers, ultimately slowing growth and reducing effectiveness. Jody also highlights the importance of understanding customer markets. A business can have an incredible product or service, but if nobody knows about it, success will remain elusive. Strategic marketing is not simply about creating attention—it is about creating meaningful opportunities that lead to conversations, relationships, and ultimately revenue. Every entrepreneur must understand where their customers are, how they make decisions, and what motivates them to buy. The conversation also explores one of the biggest challenges entrepreneurs face: time. Business owners frequently become trapped working inside their businesses rather than working on them.

  6. May 26

    Faith in Action: Mike Freix on Surrender, Service, and Purpose

    In this powerful episode of Jesus and Ugly Jody, host Jody Corbett welcomes special guest Mike Freix for an inspiring conversation about faith, surrender, leadership, service, and living with purpose. Mike shares his personal faith journey, beginning with his background as a practicing Catholic and the questions that eventually led him to seek a deeper relationship with Jesus Christ. Through Bible study, mission trips, men’s groups, and spiritual reflection, Mike began to understand that faith was not just about tradition — it was about surrendering fully to God and allowing Him to guide every part of life. A major turning point came when Mike’s wife challenged him to choose a word for the year. The word he chose was: Surrender. That word became the foundation of a deeper spiritual journey. As Mike studied Scripture and reflected on what surrender truly meant, he began to see faith as something active, intentional, and life-changing. The following year, Mike chose another phrase: Make a Difference. That decision pushed him to look for ways to serve others every day. He began reaching out to people experiencing homelessness, listening to their stories, walking alongside them, and helping them rebuild dignity, confidence, and hope. That mission eventually led to the creation of Make a Difference NOVA, a nonprofit focused on helping the homeless in Northern Virginia. Mike also shares the story behind Lazarus Motor Works, a nonprofit ministry that provides reliable vehicles to people in need. After helping someone whose car problems kept him from getting to work, Mike connected with a mechanic who wanted to use his skills to serve others. That simple connection became a larger mission. Through Lazarus Motor Works, Mike and his team repair donated vehicles and provide transportation to people who need it most, including single mothers, homeless individuals, veterans, Afghan refugee families, and working families trying to rebuild their lives. Mike explains that transportation can be the difference between poverty and stability. Without a car, many people cannot work, care for their children, or move forward. The conversation also explores Mike’s leadership journey through his military service in the United States Navy and his corporate career. Mike admits that early in his leadership life, he struggled with micromanagement and wanting things done his way. Over time, he learned that true leadership requires delegation, trust, patience, compassion, and leading by example. Jody and Mike discuss how delegation in leadership mirrors surrender in faith. Just as leaders must trust their teams, believers must trust God with their lives. This episode is a moving reminder that faith is not meant to stay inside church walls. Real faith shows up in service, sacrifice, and the willingness to walk alongside people who need help. Learn more about Lazarus Motor Works:LazarusMotorworks.org Connect with Jody Corbett:SLS.consulting Make sure to like, subscribe, and share Jesus and Ugly Jody for more conversations about faith, leadership, service, and purpose.

  7. May 19

    Jesus and Ugly Jody – KPIs, Culture, and Servant Leadership

    In this episode of Jesus and Ugly Jody, host Jody Corbet joins Neil “The Media Giant” Haley for a powerful conversation about leadership, business consulting, KPIs, company culture, and servant leadership. Jody explains that one of the biggest mistakes companies make is measuring the wrong things. Before implementing Key Performance Indicators (KPIs), leaders first need to ask: “What are we actually trying to build?” Some companies want rapid growth and an eventual sale. Others want to build a long-term legacy business that supports their family and employees for decades. Because every organization has different goals, Jody believes KPIs must align with the company’s true mission — not just revenue alone. Drawing from his years in the FBI, Jody shares how organizations often struggle because they rely on incomplete or misleading metrics. He explains that leaders can make poor strategic decisions when the data they’re measuring is flawed. The conversation then shifts into business culture and leadership development. Jody explains that many small and medium-sized business owners become trapped in daily operations because they built the company from the ground up. They spend so much time focused on sales, hiring, compliance, and problem-solving that they lose sight of long-term strategy. That’s where strategic consulting becomes important. Jody works with executives to help them step back, reassess priorities, clarify goals, and build systems that create sustainable growth. He emphasizes that many founders are brilliant innovators but may struggle with scaling operations, leadership, or delegation. A major theme throughout the episode is the importance of servant leadership. Jody believes the strongest leaders are those who: Put people firstInvest in employeesBuild trustDevelop relationshipsCreate healthy culturesAccording to Jody, organizations thrive when leaders genuinely care about people instead of focusing only on profits. The episode also explores the danger of institutional knowledge existing inside only one employee. Jody explains he has seen companies collapse after a key employee left because critical systems and relationships were never documented or transferred to others. He stresses the importance of creating processes, communication systems, and leadership continuity. Neil and Jody also discuss founder-led companies and how many entrepreneurs struggle to let go of control. Sometimes the founder should remain the visionary while stronger operational leaders help scale the business. Another fascinating topic is organizational culture. Jody explains that every company has a culture, but very few intentionally shape and protect it. He points to the United States Marine Corps and Netflix as examples of organizations that successfully define and maintain strong cultures. The conversation concludes with a discussion about sustainable growth versus fast growth. Jody explains that rapid growth without proper infrastructure often leads to burnout, weak leadership, and operational collapse. Sustainable businesses focus on: Long-term strategyLeadership developmentStrong systemsHealthy cultureIntentional growthThis episode delivers powerful insights for entrepreneurs, executives, founders, and leaders looking to build organizations that last. Connect with Jody Corbet:SLS.consulting Make sure to like, subscribe, and share the Jesus and Ugly Jody Podcast for more conversations about faith, leadership, business strategy, and personal growth.

  8. May 12

    Faith, Failure, and Leadership Philosophy with Jody

    Faith, Failure, and Leadership Philosophy with Jody In this episode of Jesus and Ugly Jody, host Jody Corbet joins Neil “The Media Giant” Haley for a deep conversation about leadership philosophy, criticism, servant leadership, relationships, strategic disagreement, and personal growth. Drawing from his experience as a former state trooper, FBI agent, leadership instructor, and faith-driven consultant, Jody explains how faith became the foundation of the way he leads people, develops relationships, and helps organizations grow. This episode explores how true leadership is built through humility, resilience, trust, and understanding who God created you to be. Jody begins the episode by answering a major question: His answer: Jody explains that servant leadership became the core of everything he learned from studying Jesus Christ and the way He led others. He points to examples from Scripture, including: • Jesus washing the disciples’ feet• Putting others before Himself• Leading through service instead of authority• Caring deeply for people Jody shares that although he has not always led perfectly, faith has consistently guided him back toward humility and service. One of the strongest leadership insights in the episode: Jody explains that teaching leadership development, battlefield leadership, and strategic thinking forced him to study leadership at a much deeper level. Through years of teaching: • FBI leadership development• Strategic thinking workshops• Battlefield leadership seminars He learned to reflect on his own leadership strengths and weaknesses while helping others grow. Neil and Jody discuss how leadership ultimately comes down to relationships. Jody explains: Strong leaders: • Build trust• Develop meaningful relationships• Care about people• Create connection before influence He emphasizes that trust often opens doors that strategy alone cannot. When people trust you: • They take chances with you• They listen to your advice• They believe in your intentions• They become willing partners One major theme discussed: Sometimes leaders must make: • Business decisions that hurt relationships• Relationship decisions that cost business opportunities Jody explains that priorities matter. Examples include: • Choosing family over meetings• Being present for children’s activities• Protecting relationships outside work Leadership is not just professional success. It is learning how to steward relationships responsibly. Neil asks one of the most important questions of the episode: Jody explains that his law enforcement experience taught him not to take emotional reactions personally. He calls this: As a state trooper and later an FBI negotiator, he learned: • People often react emotionally to situations• Anger is not always personal• Leaders must stay composed under pressure• Professionalism matters even during conflict Instead of reacting emotionally, Jody learned to: • Listen calmly• Stay focused• Respond professionally• Separate emotion from purpose Jody also explains why modern criticism is often dangerous: People react to: • Headlines• Social media clips• Partial information• Emotional narratives Without understanding the full context. This is especially true in: • Law enforcement• Leadership• Crisis situations• Business decisions He emphasizes the importance of wisdom, patience, and understanding before forming conclusions. Another major topic: Jody explains that disagreement is actually necessary for effective strategy. Healthy organizations allow people to: • Challenge ideas• Ask questions• Different experiences• Alternative viewpoints Rather than suppressing disagreement, leaders should use it to strengthen decisions. Neil and Jody also discuss failure. Jody openly admits: But failure teaches leaders: • Resilience• Humility• Adaptability

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Jesus and Ugly Jody – with Jody Corbet Faith isn’t always polished. Life isn’t always pretty. And neither are the people Jesus chooses to use. Jesus and Ugly Jody is a raw, honest conversation about faith, failure, redemption, and the reality of walking with Christ in a broken world. Pastor Jody Corbet shares real stories, hard truths, and biblical insight for people who know they don’t have it all together. This podcast isn’t about perfect Christians. It’s about grace. From personal struggles to cultural issues, Jody explores what it really means to follow Jesus when life is messy, when