Intercognitive Podcast

Rich Robinson

The Intercognitive Foundation Making the Physical World Accessible to AI 

Episodes

  1. Sep 17

    Building a Decentralized Future: NuNet's Journey into Complex Systems and AI

    Kabir Veitas (CEO) and Pravar Joshi (CPO) of NuNet share their journey from consulting to complex systems and preparing the world for decentralized AI and robotics. They discuss the evolution of AI and how NuNet aims to create a beneficial, decentralized machine economy for our messy, beautiful future. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to NuNet and the Guests 02:14 Kabir's Origin Story and Education 03:59 Interest in AI and Complex Systems 05:44 Understanding Complex and Control Systems 07:19 Neural Networks as Complex Systems 10:21 PhD in Synthetic Cognitive Development 12:00 Founding NuNet and Its Principles 14:37 Building Systems as Complex Networks 15:49 Edge Computing and Decentralized Infrastructure 18:15 Pravar's Journey and Web3 Involvement 22:41 SingularityNET, Ben Goertzel, and Open-Ended Intelligence 37:00 Building Interactive, Evolving AI Systems 41:16 NuNet's Launch and Technological Foundations 47:47 Applying NuNet to Physical AI and Robotics 53:38 Envisioning 2030: The Machine Economy and Beneficial AI Follow Intercognitive: https://www.intercognitive.com/ https://x.com/Intercognitive https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercognitive/ https://www.youtube.com/@Intercognitive https://www.tiktok.com/@intercognitive2026 Follow Rich: https://x.com/RichardRobinson https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardrobinson/ Follow NuNet: https://www.nunet.io/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/nunet-global/ https://x.com/nunet_global https://discord.com/invite/pg5BnFM89n Follow SingularityNet: https://singularitynet.io/ecosystem/nunet/ https://telegram.me/singularitynet https://discord.com/invite/snet https://www.linkedin.com/company/singularitynet/ https://www.facebook.com/singularityNET.io https://www.youtube.com/c/SingularityNET https://www.instagram.com/singularitynet.io/ Follow Kabir Veitas: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vveitas/ Follow Pravar Joshi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pravar/ Resources NuNet Official Website - https://nunet.io SingularityNET - https://singularitynet.io Ben Goertzel - Beneficial General Intelligence - https://twitter.com/bengoertzel Complexity Science Research Group in Brussels Web3 Ecosystem Building

    Building a Decentralized Future: NuNet's Journey into Complex Systems and AI
  2. Aug 21

    From MUTEK to Mawari: Building the Decentralized Infrastructure for Spatial Computing & XR

    Luis Oscar Ramirez, Founder and CEO of Mawari, went from theoretical math in Mexico to building a decentralized XR network in Japan. He co-founded MUTEK Japan, cracked real-time 3D streaming after a KDDI challenge, and now powers spatial computing with Mawari’s DePIN. Listen as he maps the path from motion sickness to digital presence. Chapters 00:33 Introduction to Mawari and Its Vision 01:59 Luis's Journey: From Mexico to Japan 04:55 The Birth of Mawari and Digital Arts Festival 10:21 Cultural Insights: Japan vs. Silicon Valley 14:13 KDDI Partnership and the Challenge of Streaming 3D Content 19:16 Developing 3D Streaming Technology and AI Integration 24:18 Building the Right Architecture for Mawari 27:19 Decentralization and Scaling Supply 28:28 Innovations in Streaming Technology 32:09 The Science of Motion Sickness in XR 36:28 Navigating the Uncanny Valley 38:49 The Future of Avatars and Digital Presence 43:22 Roadmap for Mawari and AI Collaboration Follow Intercognitive: https://www.intercognitive.com/ https://x.com/Intercognitive https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercognitive/ https://www.youtube.com/@Intercognitive https://www.tiktok.com/@intercognitive2026 Follow Rich: https://x.com/RichardRobinson https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardrobinson/ Follow Mawari: https://mawari.net/ https://x.com/mawariXR https://discord.gg/mawari https://t.me/mawarinet Follow Luis: https://x.com/luismawari https://www.linkedin.com/in/luismawari/

    From MUTEK to Mawari: Building the Decentralized Infrastructure for Spatial Computing & XR
  3. Jul 16

    From Pension Funds to Robotics: The NRN Journey

    In this in-depth interview, Intercognitive Founding Chair Rich Robinson hosts Brandon Da Silva and Wei Xie, co-founders of NRN, to discuss their journey from finance and pension funds to pioneering AI and robotics evaluation platforms. They explore perturbations, spurious correlations, and the future of robotics and AI safety. Chapters 00:00 The Intercognitive Foundation Podcast 01:53 Founders' Hero Journeys and Team Dynamics 08:26 The Role of Canadian Pension Funds in Innovation 13:02 The Leap into Entrepreneurship and AI Tokenization 18:08 Evolution of SAI and the Future of AI Robotics 19:36 The Journey of AI Arena 23:23 Advancements in Robotics and Generalization 24:52 Evaluating Robotics Performance 30:01 Understanding Language and Model Limitations 36:21 Intercognitive Collaborations and Market Insights Follow Intercognitive: https://www.intercognitive.com/ https://x.com/Intercognitivehttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intercognitive/ https://www.youtube.com/@Intercognitivehttps://www.tiktok.com/@intercognitive2026 Follow Rich: https://x.com/RichardRobinsonhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/richardrobinson/ Follow ArenaX Labs:https://www.arenaxlabs.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/arenax-labs-inc/ https://www.youtube.com/@ArenaX https://x.com/ArenaxLabs https://competesai.com/ Follow Brandon Da Silva: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-da-silva-a67496a7/ Follow Wei Xie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wei-xie-4b41ba16/

    From Pension Funds to Robotics: The NRN Journey
  4. Jun 17

    Leo Dorlöchter (Co-Founder, peaq) on the Future of the Machine Economy

    A Hero’s Journey from cypherpunk Berlin to Lisbon’s startup scene, tracing the arc of blockchain technology. Leo Dorlöchter, co-founder of peaq, shares his vision of the present and future of the machine economy and how standards, identity, and interoperability are shaping a decentralized, machine-readable world.  Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:41 Berlin to Lisbon 02:32 Early Days and the Founding Path 03:55 Crypto Capital Berlin 05:39 Enterprise Blockchain and Automotive Use Cases 07:43 Open-Source Layer 1 09:39 The Machine Economy in 2026 13:01 AI Agents and the Tokenized Economy 14:45 Financial Identity for Machines 18:21 Robots and Revenue 21:14 Reputation, Trust, and Accountability 25:03 Standards for Time and Identity 33:37 An Open Interoperable Future 35:53 Access Control 37:17 Trust Systems for AI 42:15 Leo’s Machine Dreams Follow Intercognitive:  https://www.intercognitive.com/  https://x.com/Intercognitive https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercognitive/  https://www.youtube.com/@Intercognitive https://www.tiktok.com/@intercognitive2026 Follow Rich: https://x.com/RichardRobinson https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardrobinson/  Follow Leo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leonarddorloechter/  https://x.com/dorloechter  Follow peaq:  https://www.peaq.xyz/ https://x.com/peaq  https://www.youtube.com/@peaqxyz Resources: https://www.peaq.xyz/ https://www.intercognitive.com/ https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-8004 https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/8086

    Leo Dorlöchter (Co-Founder, peaq) on the Future of the Machine Economy
  5. May 14

    Mike Horton (CEO, GEODNET) on How Blockchain Is Powering the Robot Revolution

    Standard GPS can find the grocery store. Robots need centimeter-level precision. Mike Horton, Project Creator and CEO of GEODNET, joins Intercognitive Founding Chair Rich Robinson to explain how a decentralized network of 20,000+ base stations is turning high-accuracy positioning into real infrastructure for drones, robots, agriculture, mapping, and autonomous machines. They discuss robot accountability, interoperability, and what physical AI needs to have its iPhone moment. Chapters: 00:34 Intro 01:12 Mike Horton’s Journey into Navigation and Autonomy 03:55 Why Robots Need Centimeter-Level Positioning 04:41 How GEODNET Built a Decentralized RTK Network 07:09 The Economics Behind GEODNET 12:34 GEODNET’s Growth and Robotics’ iPhone Moment 15:34 Base Stations, Farmers, and Real-World Use Cases 20:00 Tokenomics, Buybacks, and Blockchain Utility 22:49 Why Web3 Matters for the Robot Revolution 26:29 Accountability, Transparency, and Robot Safety 33:00 Why Robots Need Interoperability 38:27 Utility Robots, Humanoids, and Everyday Abundance 42:35 Closing Reflections 43:37 Outro Follow Intercognitive: https://www.intercognitive.com/ https://x.com/Intercognitive https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercognitive/ https://www.youtube.com/@Intercognitive https://www.tiktok.com/@intercognitive2026 Follow Rich: https://x.com/RichardRobinson https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardrobinson/ Follow Mike Horton: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikeahorton/ https://medium.com/@mikehorton https://x.com/mikeahorton Follow Geodnet: https://geodnet.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/geodnet https://x.com/GEODNET https://www.instagram.com/geodnet/ Referenced in the show: Auki Labs Alex Osterwalder RTK Network Helium Resources Geodnet Official Website

    Mike Horton (CEO, GEODNET) on How Blockchain Is Powering the Robot Revolution
  6. Apr 22

    Nils Pihl (CEO, Auki Labs) on Making the Physical World Accessible to AI

    Venture to the robotic frontier with Nils Pihl, CEO of Auki Labs, and Rich Robinson, Founding Chair of Intercognitive. Dive into co-embodiment, Golden Age Beijing, and what making the world accessible to AI will mean for civilization and everyday life. Chapters 00:00 Intercognitive Podcast Intro 00:33 Origins and the Digital Metaverse 03:29 The Evolution of Communication and Togetherness 06:28 Beijing: A Parallel to the Early Internet 09:03 The Transformation of China and Robotics 12:18 Decentralized Infrastructure and Its Impact 15:13 Building the Internet of Spaces and Sensors 25:03 The Future of Physical AI and Robotics 29:04 Co-Embodiment: A New Paradigm in Robotics 36:38 Perception Tasks: Enhancing Human Productivity 43:27 Tele-Inspection: Remote Robot Operations 47:33 Intercognitive Foundation: Bridging AI and the Physical World 53:43 Intercognitive Podcast Outro  Follow Intercognitive: https://www.intercognitive.com/ https://x.com/Intercognitive https://www.linkedin.com/company/intercognitive/ https://www.youtube.com/@Intercognitive Follow Rich Robinson: https://x.com/RichardRobinson https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardrobinson/  Follow Nils Pihl: https://hk.linkedin.com/in/nilspihl https://x.com/broodsugar  Follow Auki Labs: https://www.auki.com/ https://www.instagram.com/aukilabs/ https://x.com/AukiLabs https://hk.linkedin.com/company/aukilabs  Referenced in the show: Intercognitive Foundation - https://www.intercognitive.com/ Geodnet - https://geodnet.com/ Mentra - https://mentraglass.com/ Budbreak - https://www.budbreakinnovations.com/ Moire - https://www.moire.ai/about/ Peaq - https://www.peaq-online.com/en/ Galbot - https://www.galbot.com/ Harrison.AI - https://harrison.ai/ Animoca Brands - https://www.animocabrands.com/ Balaji Srinivasan - https://balajis.com/about Jonathan Moon - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmoon0714/

    Nils Pihl (CEO, Auki Labs) on Making the Physical World Accessible to AI

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