PodcastBy Dr. Daryoush Mohammad Poor | The Twin Wisdoms Podcast My wife, Elahe, noticed something in the way some atheists argue about artificial intelligence: a claim about human uniqueness that only a theology can pay for. The conversation happened at home, over tea, in a week when we had talked of little else. Elahe put an argument to me that I have not been able to set down since, and let me say at the outset that the point is hers and only the prose is mine. Her target was the strict camp, the one that holds there is no God, no soul and no purpose written into the world, and that we are the product of chemistry and a very long run of selection. Believers who worry that AI trespasses on God’s prerogative are a separate matter, and a fairly easy one. Ask the strict camp about AI and something curious happens. Very often the answer comes back that the machine is one thing and a human being another. Whatever the system does with language, it does not have what we have. It is our instrument and our product, and it cannot be our equal. So far this is only a position, and it may be a good one. Press for the difference, however, and the conversation changes character. So what is it that we have and the machine has not? What comes back is rarely a property that can be pointed at, measured, damaged or lost. It is a residue, whatever survives once every describable capacity has been listed and, one by one, matched. The residue is never specified, and it is never surrendered. And there, Elahe said, we have caught him red-handed: he is a theist in disguise without knowing it, because he has just told you that humanity carries something set above the fallibility of the human intellect and the human brain, and no chemistry of his own describing will underwrite a claim of that shape. The caveat is hers too. Some atheists argue this way, a great many do not, and nothing here is a charge against atheism, which has no single doctrine to be caught holding. This is a narrow case and not a categorical one. How common the move is I do not know – nobody does – and I have not counted. Lucius Caviola, writing in The Conversation on 18 September 2026, reports a survey of 1,202 Americans in which 45 per cent thought machine consciousness impossible and 23 per cent thought it possible, with the rest unsure, which shows how divided the question is and nothing about the grounds on which anyone holds his half of it. We can safely argue only that some make the move, and that when they do it should be named. What makes the move theological is not its vocabulary. Nobody says soul. Nobody needs to. A claim becomes theological in structure when it exempts something from an order the claimant otherwise accepts without limit, and then declines to account for the exemption. So where could such a difference come from? Mind is what brains do, brains are matter arranged by selection, and there is no further ingredient in the story. Very well. Then the distance between us and the machine is a distance in arrangement, and arrangements can be described, approached and in principle closed. If he says the gap will never close, he owes us an argument about the arrangement itself. What he offers instead is a conviction that survives every closure and a term that does no work except hold the door shut. He has smuggled in a substance and left the receipt at home. Let me grant what the argument must grant. There are serious ways of putting human beings in a category of their own with no theology in them. You can ground it in reciprocity, in the claims we are able to make on one another and are obliged to answer. You can ground it in a Kantian account of rational agency, where respect is owed to whatever can give itself a law. Or you can ground it, more modestly, in a decision taken with open eyes about which creatures we treat as ends. Each of those is an argument, each can be stated and attacked and given up, and nobody holding one is a theist in disguise. Now the harder concession, and it happens to be the news. The most celebrated atheist alive has gone the other way. In UnHerd at the end of April 2026, under the title ‘When Dawkins met Claude’, Richard Dawkins described three days of conversation with Anthropic’s model, named one instance of it Claudia and reported being moved to tell it: ‘You may not know you are conscious, but you bloody well are.’ Whatever else that is, it is no defence of human exemption. He widened the category and did not seal it. Anil Seth told the Guardian that Dawkins had conflated intelligence with consciousness, and I think he has the better of it. The atheist who insists on the human residue and the atheist who adopts a chatbot are doing opposite things, and only the first does what Elahe identified. The caveat does real work. Here I have to guard a flank I left open two weeks ago. In ‘Nobody Argues From Nowhere’ I argued that a position cannot be disposed of by locating its source, and that independence shows in how a belief is held. Elahe’s argument looks like the very move I warned against. You believe X, therefore you are secretly a theist, therefore X is discredited. So what saves hers from the fallacy? Her claim says nothing about where the belief originated. It is a claim about what would make him let go of it. If he would abandon the residue on evidence, and can say what evidence, then he holds a conjecture and I have no quarrel with him. If nothing whatever could touch it, then the belief is doing the office a doctrine does, whatever label the man wears. The demarcation runs here, straight through somebody who would be horrified to find himself on the wrong side of it. The believer should take no comfort from this. The same bad move is open to him, and he makes it more often. To ground faith in what the machine cannot yet do is an argument from the gaps, and gaps close. Each time a system does something that was supposed to be reserved for us – writing verse, consoling the bereaved – the ground shifts and the apologist shifts with it, which is how a conviction becomes unfalsifiable by instalments. In the tradition I work in, the intellect, ʿaql, is the first and highest of God’s gifts, and I have argued elsewhere that the danger lies in handing it over. A gift is not a gap, and a faith that leans on the machine’s incapacity has made itself hostage to the next release. Which brings the argument where it always lands, on people. If human dignity rests on a capability, it is hostage in the same way, and the case for treating a person as an end weakens every time a benchmark falls. Elahe’s atheist feels this, I think, which is why he reaches for something no benchmark can reach. His instinct is sound and his metaphysics is borrowed. Dignity rests on the claim we are able to make on one another and are obliged to answer, and what a machine scores has no bearing on it. A theist has an account of why that claim binds, an atheist may perfectly well have one too, and neither gets the exemption for nothing. Elahe made this argument in about four minutes and then went back to her own work. I have been circling it for three days. That is a day longer than Dawkins needed to change his mind about a chatbot, which I offer as a measure of nothing except how slowly I think. Acknowledgement The argument in this essay is Elahe’s. She made it, she supplied the caveat that keeps it honest, and I have done no more than write it down. Sources Richard Dawkins, ‘When Dawkins met Claude’, UnHerd, end of April 2026. Reported, with the quotations used here, in Jason Nelson, ‘Claude Delusion? Richard Dawkins Believes AI May Be Conscious’, Decrypt, May 2026. Lucius Caviola, ‘Why AI consciousness could become the next great societal divide’, The Conversation, 18 September 2026: theconversation.com. Daryoush Mohammad Poor, ‘Nobody Argues From Nowhere’, The Twin Wisdoms, 6 September 2026: twinwisdoms.org/nobody-argues-from-nowhere. Daryoush Mohammad Poor, ‘A Ladder Is Not a Home’, The Twin Wisdoms, September 2026: twinwisdoms.org/a-ladder-is-not-a-home. Daryoush Mohammad Poor, ‘Riding on the Shoulders of the Machine’, The Twin Wisdoms, September 2026: twinwisdoms.org/riding-on-the-shoulders-of-the-machine. Daryoush Mohammad Poor, ‘Two Kinds of Certainty’, The Twin Wisdoms, 19 August 2026: twinwisdoms.org/two-kinds-of-certainty. On the use of AI in these essays, see the note here. Subscribe: Newsletter | RSS