The Backstory Podcast

The Backstory Podcast

Every scholar—and every piece of scholarship—has a backstory: the decisions, moments, and emotions that shape the work but often remain invisible in polished manuscripts and conference presentations. Join our hosts as they explore thought-provoking research in health professions education, then welcome the authors to share the stories behind how each publication came to life.

Episodes

  1. Aug 5

    E4: DEI Training: “This Is Not For Me” with Dr. Tiffany Chambers

    What happens when educational interventions designed to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion unintentionally cause harm? In this episode, the Backstory team is joined by Dr. Tiffany Chambers to discuss her paper, "This Is Not For Me": A Counterstory on BIPOC Experiences of DEI Trainings. Drawing from critical race theory and counterstorytelling, the paper challenges dominant assumptions about DEI programs by centering the experiences of Black, Indigenous, and People of Color (BIPOC) participants. Together, the team explores how well-intentioned educational initiatives can inadvertently reproduce the very inequities they seek to address, and why elevating marginalized voices is essential to creating more equitable learning environments. Tune in for a thoughtful conversation on the unintended consequences of DEI training and what these findings mean for the future of medical education. Paper Citation:  Chambers T, O'Brien B. "This Is Not For Me": A Counterstory on BIPOC Experiences of DEI Trainings. Teach Learn Med. 2025;37(4):468-479. doi:10.1080/10401334.2025.2471393 Visit our website for show notes, transcripts, and to become a subscriber! Keywords: Medical Education, MedEd, Health Professions Education, DEI, Diversity, Equity, Inclusion Time stamps:  00:00 - Welcome 01:05 - Poem by Langston Hughes': I, Too 01:35 - Personal reflections on identity, shame, and learning 08:17 - Introducing the paper 10:00 - Study methods and key concepts explained 22:27 - Hot takes on DEI programs and program evaluation 25:45 - Interview with Dr. Tiffany Chambers 26:03 - Dr. Chambers' journey and lessons from designing educational spaces 28:50 - The backstory behind the research 31:36 - Whose responsibility is DEI education? 33:50 - Misconceptions about the paper 35:15 - Challenging traditional academic writing 36:08 - Academia, institutional change, and moving beyond DEI 38:20 - Book recommendations 38:52 - Closing remarks

  2. Jul 15

    E3: Program Evaluation & Paradigm Shifts with Dr. Faizal Haji

    What if we've been asking the wrong question about program evaluation all along?  In this episode, pediatric neurosurgeon and medical education researcher Dr. Faizal Haji challenges the familiar "Did it work?" mindset and instead explores a more meaningful question: “How and why do educational programs create change?”.  Together, we unpack why traditional evaluation methods often miss the bigger picture and discuss practical frameworks that embrace the complexity of real-world learning. Whether you're an educator, clinician, researcher, or leader, you'll come away with fresh ways to think about measuring impact, improving programs, and making sense of outcomes that don't fit neatly into a spreadsheet.  Paper discussed today:  Haji F, Morin MP, Parker K. Rethinking programme evaluation in health professions education: beyond 'did it work?'. Med Educ. 2013;47(4):342-351. doi:10.1111/medu.12091 Visit our website for show notes, transcripts, and to become a subscriber! Keywords: Medical Education, MedEd, Program Evaluation, Health Professions Education

  3. Jun 10

    E2: Love, Actually with Katie Lee Bunting

    Does love have a place in health professions education? In this episode of The Backstory Podcast, Justin, Hannah, and Ben explore “A Thick Description of Love’s Contours for Health Professions Education,” a thought-provoking paper by Katie Lee Bunting and colleagues. Drawing from philosophy, critical pedagogy, and feminist scholarship, the paper challenges us to consider love not as sentimentality, but as a transformative practice that can shape relationships, learning, and power in healthcare. Tune in for a lively discussion about the people who taught us about non-romantic love, what it might look like to bring love into our work as educators and clinicians, and a few unexpected pop culture detours along the way. Citation: Lee Bunting K, Krumeich A, Nimmon L. A thick description of love's contours for health professions education. Adv Health Sci Educ Theory Pract. Published online February 26, 2026. doi:10.1007/s10459-026-10504-4 Time Stamps: 00:00 - Introductions 04:02 - An introduction to the paper 04:50 - Personal experiences with non-romantic love 07:50 - Methods and results 16:42 - Hot takes 20:38 - Katie Lee Bunting joins The Backstory Podcast Visit our website for show notes, transcripts, and to become a subscriber! Keywords: Love, Medical Education, Humanism, Relationships, Critical Theory

  4. May 13

    E1: Fail-Safe Learning with Dr. Jennifer Klasen

    What happens when supervisors intentionally allow trainees to fail? And when does that kind of failure become a powerful learning experience, versus something harmful? In this debut episode of The Backstory Podcast, Drs. Ben Kinnear, Hannah Kakara Anderson, and Justin Bullock explore the Medical Education paper “Trainees’ perceptions of being allowed to fail in clinical training: A sense-making model” by Dr. Jennifer Klasen and colleagues. Together, they unpack the complicated emotional and educational terrain of failure in clinical training — from growth and resilience, to shame, interpretation, and trust. They then welcome on the lead author Dr. Jennifer Klasen, surgeon and medical education researcher at the University of Basel, to explore the deeper story behind the study. Dr. Klasen shares how personal experiences shaped the research, how her thinking has evolved since publication, and what educators often misunderstand about failure in clinical training. Whether you’re a learner, supervisor, or educator, this episode invites you to reconsider how we think about mistakes, supervision, and growth in medicine. Citation: Klasen JM, Teunissen PW, Driessen E, Lingard LA. Trainees' perceptions of being allowed to fail in clinical training: A sense-making model. Med Educ. 2023;57(5):430-439. doi:10.1111/medu.14966 Time Stamps: 00:00 - Introductions 03:32 - An introduction to the paper 05:48 - Personal experiences with failure 09:24 - Methods and results 17:06 - Hot takes 18:46 - Dr. Klasen joins The Backstory Podcast Visit Our Website for show notes, transcripts, and to become a subscriber!

  5. May 2

    Introducing The Backstory Podcast

    In this introductory episode of The Backstory Podcast, we share the inspiration behind the show and what you can expect from future episodes. From unpacking impactful research to sitting down with authors, we’ll explore the real stories behind the scholarship—the pivots, challenges, and moments that don’t make it into the final manuscript. Because in health professions education, there’s always more to the story, its just how far back you are willing to go.

    Introducing The Backstory Podcast

  6. Trailer

    Trailer: The Backstory Podcast

    Meet The Backstory Podcast—where the stories behind the scholarship finally get told. Every publication has a journey: the moments of doubt, the unexpected pivots, the conversations that changed everything, and the questions that refused to let go. Yet in the final manuscript or conference presentation, those human elements are often left out. In this trailer episode, we introduce the vision behind The Backstory Podcast. In each episode, we’ll explore thought-provoking research in health professions education—and then sit down with the authors to uncover what really happened along the way.

Trailer

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Every scholar—and every piece of scholarship—has a backstory: the decisions, moments, and emotions that shape the work but often remain invisible in polished manuscripts and conference presentations. Join our hosts as they explore thought-provoking research in health professions education, then welcome the authors to share the stories behind how each publication came to life.

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  • Creator
    The Backstory Podcast
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    6
  • Rating
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    © 2026 The Backstory Podcast

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