On Your Mic

Collins Victory Odabi

On Your Mic is a conversation-driven podcast about ideas, perspectives, and real-world thinking across tech, business, culture, and personal growth.

  1. 23h ago

    Why "Serve First, Sell Second" Beats Every Growth Hack in Email Marketing | Tanya Brody

    Businesses today are constantly chasing attention. They invest in social media, advertising, content, and new platforms, yet many neglect one audience they already own — the people sitting on their email lists. The bigger problem is that businesses often treat those subscribers as prospects to sell to rather than relationships to develop. Tanya Brody has spent more than fifteen years as an email marketing strategist and direct response copywriter, built around a simple philosophy: serve first, sell second. She helps businesses use consistent, natural emails to build trust, strengthen relationships, and create audiences that genuinely want to hear from them. In this episode, Collins Victory Odabi sits down with Tanya to explore why businesses struggle to build meaningful relationships with subscribers, what makes people keep paying attention to a brand, why neglected email lists become so difficult to revive, and how entrepreneurs can turn ordinary communication into a long-term growth asset. What You'll Learn Every subscriber is silently asking "what's in it for me?" Tanya argues this is the single most important question in marketing, and it's not cynical — it's human. Brands earn trust by answering it directly: useful subject lines, genuinely helpful content, and information that helps someone make a real decision, before ever asking for a sale.Disappearing for months and then emailing to sell is the fastest way to get marked as spam. Tanya compares it to a friend who vanishes for months and then resurfaces only to ask for a favour — technically still a friend, but the trust has eroded. Businesses that do this to their lists risk real damage to their sender reputation, which can eventually get their domain blacklisted entirely, blocking even personal emails from getting through.A worthwhile email always serves before it sells. In Tanya's own weekly newsletter, the first section delivers genuinely useful, standalone value — practical email marketing tactics — before any ask appears at the end. She treats subscribers as a two-way community rather than a list of buyers, which is why she deliberately includes personal, human stories alongside the practical advice.Honest scarcity works; fake urgency destroys trust. Tanya doesn't reject persuasion or direct response tactics outright — she rejects dishonest ones, like a "limited time offer" that repeats every week. Her alternative: set a real, fixed limit (a discount offered only twice a year, for instance) and actually hold to it, which builds credibility instead of eroding it.Reviving a cold list starts with an honest reset, not more emails. Tanya's practical fix for a neglected list: clean it first (bad or bot addresses, unresponsive contacts), then send a direct, honest re-introduction acknowledging the silence and committing to a real cadence going forward. She also flags the eye-catching stat that email marketing returns between $36 and $42 for every dollar spent — the highest ROI of any marketing channel. About Tanya BrodyTanya Brody is an email marketing strategist and direct response copywriter with more than 15 years of marketing experience, known for her serve-first, sell-second approach to building trust-based subscriber relationships. 🌐 emca.tanyabrodycopywriter.com/subject-line-generator Timestamps[0:03] Introduction and episode framing[2:25] What it takes to earn a subscriber's trust before selling[6:48] Why inconsistent communication wrecks an email list's reputation[11:45] What makes an email genuinely worth opening[17:35] Using persuasive copy without manipulation — honesty over urgency[23:59] Turning an email list into a long-term business asset[27:37] Final thoughts and where to find Tanya's subject line generator Connect with Collins LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/collins-odabi-266620380/Guest enquiries: podmatch.com/member/onyourmic Until next time, stay sharp, and keep showing up.

    Why "Serve First, Sell Second" Beats Every Growth Hack in Email Marketing | Tanya Brody
  2. 2d ago

    The Thinking Gap: Why Brilliant Leaders Keep Making Bad Decisions About AI | Dr. Seyi Ogebule

    There is a particular kind of failure organisations do not see coming, because it does not look like failure at the time. AI investments get approved, tools get deployed, dashboards light up — and leadership feels the organisation is moving in the right direction. Underneath that motion, something is quietly going wrong: not because the technology is broken, but because nobody stopped to ask the right questions first. Dr. Seyi Ogebule has spent fifteen years at the intersection of AI, hardware, and product leadership, advising startups and speaking on stages from Afrotech to executive forums across the US, Africa, and Australia. She is the Amazon bestselling author of The Stemnologist and co-founder of the Jewel Foundation, expanding STEM education across Africa. In this episode, Collins Victory Odabi sits down with Dr. Seyi to explore the thinking gap beneath most AI decision-making, what it costs organisations that never develop the right frame, and what she built into The Stemnologist for leaders ready to think differently about the power they wield. What You'll Learn Most AI failures are framing failures, not technical ones. Leaders deploy "Ferrari engines" of AI capability while using them like basic browsers, driven by fear of missing out rather than genuine understanding of the problem. Spend 80% of your time on the problem, 20% on the solution. When founders arrive convinced they need to "build an AI tool," Dr. Seyi uses the "five whys" — asking why repeatedly until the real root cause surfaces. A good decision and a good outcome are not the same thing. No amount of sound decision-making guarantees a good result. The real formula balances historical experience and gut instinct against whatever hard data is available. The most expensive mistakes come from a gap nobody names in the moment. The danger is the undetected gap between what a leader understands about the technology and what it's actually doing inside the organisation — rarely visible until it's embedded and hard to reverse. Responsible AI leadership treats accountability as a design requirement, not an afterthought. The Stemnologist gives already-capable leaders a framework for what they do with the access they have — honouring the people affected, staying alert to misuse, and learning to push back rather than just follow the script. About Dr. Seyi Ogebule Dr. Seyi Ogebule is an AI, hardware, and product leadership veteran with fifteen years of experience advising startups across the US, Africa, and Australia. She is the Amazon bestselling author of The Stemnologist and co-founder of the Jewel Foundation. 🌐 seyiogebule.com Timestamps[0:05] Introduction and episode framing[3:02] The thinking gap underneath most AI decision-making[9:40] The question leaders should ask before choosing a tool[14:06] Good decision-making under pressure and uncertainty[19:52] Where the most expensive AI mistakes come from[21:04] Who The Stemnologist was written for[26:08] Final thoughts and where to find Dr. Seyi's work Connect with CollinsLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/collins-odabi-266620380Guest enquiries: podmatch.com/member/onyourmic Until next time, stay sharp, and keep showing up.

    The Thinking Gap: Why Brilliant Leaders Keep Making Bad Decisions About AI | Dr. Seyi Ogebule
  3. 5d ago

    Why More Data Doesn't Mean Better Decisions: Building Data Products People Trust | Jenessa Stieglitz

    Businesses today have more data than ever before — more dashboards, more reports, more analytics, and increasingly more AI. Yet having access to information does not necessarily make an organisation better at making decisions. In many cases, it simply gives people more numbers to look at without helping them understand what actually matters. Jenessa Stieglitz has spent more than a decade working at the intersection of data, product thinking, and analytics, focused on making enterprise data usable for the people who ultimately have to act on it. In this episode, Collins Victory Odabi sits down with Jenessa to explore why organisations struggle to turn data into insights, what product thinking changes about the way enterprise data is built, and how leaders can avoid creating sophisticated data systems that nobody actually uses. What You'll Learn Data, reports, and insights are three different things, and conflating them is where organisations go wrong. Data is simply rows and columns; a report — a dashboard, a visualisation — is built from that data; but neither one is an insight. An insight is something a business leader can actually act on to generate value, and being precise about which one you're building determines whether a data product will ever be used. A shared semantic layer only works if the governance behind it is both strong and agile. Getting everyone across an organisation to operate from the same numbers and KPIs matters, but Jenessa's retail experience showed how regional regulations — different rules in the US, Europe, and across Asian and Latin American markets — dictate who can access what. Data governance has to accommodate that complexity without blocking the product from reaching users. Fragmented internal systems quietly sabotage data quality. At a hospitality company Jenessa worked with, what should have functioned like an ERP had instead been built from disconnected "Frankenstein" modules that didn't communicate with each other. Blending that data into anything consistent required data teams and internal software tooling teams to start actively collaborating rather than working in isolation. AI accelerates analysis, but it still needs a human who understands the business. Jenessa partners with analysts to run fast, rough analyses using tools like Cursor, but she still relies on their judgement to catch things a model would miss — like a headline 300% sales increase that turns out to be a data error rather than real growth. Speed without that context just produces faster wrong answers. Being "data-driven" is often a phrase without real meaning. Jenessa points out that the term can describe pushing for more data or pushing for less, which means it isn't a strategy at all. The organisations that genuinely benefit from data are the ones where the right person can understand, trust, and act on the information in front of them — not the ones that simply produce more of it. About Jenessa Stieglitz Jenessa Stieglitz is a product management leader with more than a decade of experience making enterprise data more usable, working across the intersection of data, product thinking, and analytics to help organisations turn information into action. 🔗 linkedin.com/in/jstiegz Timestamps [0:00] Introduction and episode framing [2:39] When does a data product stop being useful? [5:54] Determining what information different users actually need [9:05] A real example: fragmented systems and poor data quality [11:51] Where AI should support versus where humans should own decisions [15:32] What "data-driven" really means — and why it's often just fluff [18:10] Final thoughts and how to connect with Jenessa Connect with Collins LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/collins-odabi-266620380 Guest enquiries: podmatch.com/member/onyourmic Until next time, stay sharp, and keep showing up

    Why More Data Doesn't Mean Better Decisions: Building Data Products People Trust | Jenessa Stieglitz
  4. 6d ago

    Why AI Adoption Fails Without Trust and the TRAILS Framework for Leading Disruption | AJ Bubb

    Technology has never been the hardest part of transformation. Organisations can buy software, hire consultants, and invest millions in innovation, yet many digital transformation projects still fail — not because the technology wasn't capable, but because people struggle to adapt to the pace, uncertainty, and organisational change that comes with it. In this episode, Collins Victory Odabi sits down with AJ Bubb, founder of MXP Studio, a fractional AI strategy consultancy helping mid-market companies adopt AI with clarity rather than hype. Over 15 years across Accenture, AWS, and multiple startups, AJ has helped launch over 100 products and prototypes that collectively generated around $2 billion in revenue. He's also building Convia, a startup exploring authentic storytelling in an AI-driven world, and hosts the Facing Disruption podcast. What You'll Learn Most AI initiatives fail because they're not tied to strategy. Leaders often adopt AI out of FOMO rather than a clear outcome, which leaves experimentation directionless and impossible to measure — so the tool gets blamed for a problem that was never defined. Customers don't care about AI — they care about being served well. Leaders need to stay anchored to the "durable customer need" (a concept AJ credits to Amazon) rather than chasing the latest tool, since AI is a means to solving a problem, not the goal itself. Moving fast with AI starts with trust, not tools. People aren't afraid of change — they're afraid of instability, insecurity, and ambiguity. Leaders who reward small risks and remove fear of penalty create teams that can adopt new tools quickly. Leaders should build and experiment themselves, not just delegate to experts. Staying close to the customer and testing assumptions directly — as AJ does with Convia — lets leaders make faster, better-informed decisions instead of relying solely on secondhand insight. AJ's TRAILS framework guides AI adoption: Trust, Reveal, Act, Inspire, Learn, Scale — a six-step approach to building innovation capability without creating confusion or unnecessary complexity. About AJ Bubb AJ Bubb is the founder of MXP Studio, a fractional AI strategy consultancy helping mid-market companies adopt AI with clarity. He also hosts the Facing Disruption podcast, contributes to the Forbes Technology Council, and is building Convia (conviapro.com), a startup exploring authentic storytelling in an AI-driven world. 🌐 ajbubb.com conviapro.com Timestamps [0:00] Introduction and episode framing [3:00] Why AI initiatives fail before they even begin [7:14] Facing disruption vs. reacting to it [15:18] Protecting teams from burnout and change fatigue [19:33] Why leaders should build and experiment, not just advise [26:07] The TRAILS framework for practical AI adoption [29:01] Continued: proving out the framework and winning buy-in [1:35] Final thoughts and where to find Convia Connect with Collins LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/collins-odabi-266620380/ Guest enquiries: podmatch.com/member/onyourmic Until next time, stay sharp, and keep showing up.

    Why AI Adoption Fails Without Trust and the TRAILS Framework for Leading Disruption | AJ Bubb
  5. 6d ago

    Building a Business and a Life Around What You Can Do, Not What You Can't | Katherine Klimitas

    Society has a habit of defining people by what they cannot do. Physical disability is often viewed through the lens of limitation and dependency rather than capability and contribution. Some of the most compelling stories challenge that framework — not by denying hardship, but by showing that purpose is rarely determined by circumstance. Katherine Klimitas has lived with osteogenesis imperfecta (brittle bone disease) since birth, experiencing over 500 broken bones by age ten. Yet neither she nor her family let her condition define her life's narrative. Through KAK Art and Designs, she built a career as an artist, graphic designer, entrepreneur, author, and motivational speaker — becoming an advocate for disability awareness and inclusive education. In this episode, Collins Victory Odabi sits down with Katherine to explore how growing up with extraordinary physical challenges shaped her identity, why entrepreneurship became her path to independence, what society still misunderstands about inclusion, and why creativity has remained the constant thread through every stage of her journey. What You'll Learn Inclusion, not protection, built her confidence. Her parents held her to the same academic and social expectations as anyone else. Where full inclusion wasn't physically possible, her family found equivalent alternatives rather than leaving her out.Her business began by accident. As a child accompanying her veterinarian parents to work, Katherine drew pets in the waiting room out of boredom. Strangers began offering her $10–$20 for the drawings — and watching her parents build businesses from nothing gave her the model to turn a pastime into income at just ten years old.A fine art degree wasn't practical, so she paired art with business. Recognizing that pure fine art rarely pays the bills, she pursued graphic design instead — allowing her to do branding and web work for clients while painting pet portraits and wildlife art on the side.Society's core mistake is focusing on what people can't do. Katherine argues capability has little to do with disability status: plenty of able-bodied people can't paint, just as she can't stock shelves. The fix isn't lowering expectations — it's the same advice for everyone: find your actual strength and build around it.Opportunity favors people willing to put themselves out there. Chances like working for musician Rod Stewart came from actively showing up. Her advice: keep trying things outside your comfort zone, because you can't discover your strength without testing it. About Katherine Klimitas Katherine Klimitas is an artist, graphic designer, entrepreneur, author, and motivational speaker who has lived with osteogenesis imperfecta since birth. Through KAK Art and Designs and her public speaking, she advocates for disability awareness, inclusive education, and the idea that meaningful contribution is available to everyone. 🌐 www.kakartnola.com Timestamps [0:00] Introduction and episode framing [2:25] How Katherine's parents chose inclusion over protection [6:24] From childhood hobby to a paying business at age ten [11:24] Rethinking disability: what society still gets wrong [14:35] Advice for building a future not defined by circumstances [17:35] Final thoughts and how to connect with Katherine Connect with Collins X: @0xOVCollins | LinkedIn: Collins Odabi Guest enquiries: podmatch.com/member/onyourmic Until next time, stay sharp, and keep showing up.

    Building a Business and a Life Around What You Can Do, Not What You Can't | Katherine Klimitas
  6. Aug 11

    Trust, Delegation, and the Art of Building a Business That Doesn't Trap You | Anna Brambilla

    Franchising is often presented as a numbers game — more leads, more locations, faster expansion. But behind every successful franchise business is a far more human process. People are making one of the biggest financial and professional decisions of their lives, and those decisions are rarely driven by sales presentations alone. In this episode, Collins Victory Odabi sits down with Anna to explore why trust outperforms pressure-based selling, why delegation is the hardest thing entrepreneurs face, and what it actually takes to build a business that scales without losing the relationships that created its success. What You'll Learn The difference between someone ready for business ownership and someone who just likes the idea of it comes down to motivation. Anna's first question to every prospective franchise owner was simply: why are we even talking? Getting to the real answer — escape from corporate, financial pressure, genuine entrepreneurial drive — changes everything about how the conversation unfolds and whether the relationship is worth building. Saying no is a revenue strategy. Anna estimates she has generated several hundred thousand dollars over her career by telling people she was not the right fit for them. The result was not lost business — it was referrals, recommendations, and clients who came back later with far higher trust than they would have had otherwise. Delegation is the unlock most entrepreneurs resist too long. Anna hired her first virtual assistant a year into her brokerage business and immediately reclaimed 10 to 20 hours per week, ultimately doubling and then tripling her revenue. The work she was doing — the admin, the CRM updates, the follow-up emails — was someone else's zone of genius. Holding onto it was costing her the work only she could do. Go back to your why. When franchise brokers hit frustration, burnout, or stagnation, Anna's starting point is always the same question: why did you choose this path? That anchor is what separates people who course-correct from those who keep grinding in the wrong direction. Stay in your comfort zone — and expand it. Anna's deliberately counterintuitive closing argument: the goal is not to constantly push outside what you do well. It is to identify the things only you can do, stay there, and find people for whom everything else is their comfort zone. That is where sustainable growth actually lives. About Anna BrambillaFounder of Your Franchise Pros and franchise growth strategist with nearly 25 years across recruiting, coaching, entrepreneurship, and franchise development. After building a seven-figure franchise brokerage, Anna now helps brokers grow through stronger systems, better client experiences, and relationship-driven leadership. 🌐 yourfranchisepros.com Timestamps[0:05] Introduction and episode framing[3:17] How to tell who is genuinely ready for franchise ownership[7:33] Why trust consistently outperforms traditional sales tactics[10:47] Why delegation is so difficult — and what changes when you get it right[14:49] What separates sustainable franchise brokers from those chasing rapid growth[18:32] How to build a business that scales without trapping you inside it[20:46] Final thoughts — stay in your comfort zone and expand it Connect with CollinsX: @0xOVCollins | LinkedIn: Collins OdabiGuest enquiries: podmatch.com/member/onyourmic Until next time, stay sharp, and keep showing up.

    Trust, Delegation, and the Art of Building a Business That Doesn't Trap You | Anna Brambilla
  7. Aug 11

    Why More Tools Are Killing Your Creativity — and How Constraints Set You Free | Arthur Caillot

    We live in an age where almost every creative problem seems to have a commercial solution. Another plugin. Another sample pack. Another course. More has become the default answer — yet despite unprecedented access to tools and technology, many creators are finishing less than ever. They collect tools instead of producing work and mistake preparation for progress. In this episode, Collins Victory Odabi sits down with Arthur to explore why abundance is often the enemy of creativity, how constraints help artists discover their own voice, and what entrepreneurs can learn from the discipline required to create consistently. What You'll Learn The real problem is not a lack of resources — it is too many of them. Arthur's diagnosis is precise: creators who jump between sample packs, free training courses, and new plugins are not solving a creative problem. They are avoiding one. The signal that someone is drowning in abundance is that they cannot talk about their work without talking about everything around it. The path back to creativity starts with finishing one thing. Arthur's coaching process begins with a single objective — help the artist complete one track, including production, mixing, and mastering. Confidence is not rebuilt through inspiration. It is rebuilt through completion. Consistency follows from there. Do only what is necessary, and delegate the rest. Arthur runs a podcast, a web radio, a coaching practice, and his own music — not by doing everything himself, but by identifying which tasks grow the business and which can be handed off. His rule is simple: if it does not need his face or his judgement, it gets delegated. Test everything manually before automating it. Arthur uses AI across his workflow — podcast editing, email marketing, guest sourcing — but only after he has done each task by hand first. The principle is that you cannot responsibly automate what you do not yet understand. Find the one channel bringing most of your clients and double down on it. For entrepreneurs feeling overwhelmed by endless marketing options, Arthur's practical entry point is an audit: which channel is actually generating clients? Cut the noise and focus resources there before adding anything new. About Arthur Caillot Host of the Inside the Electronic Music podcast, coach for independent electronic music producers, and creative entrepreneur. Arthur helps artists simplify their creative process, build consistency, and release work rather than endlessly prepare to make it. 🌐 arthurcaillot.com Youtube: Arthur Caillot Instagram: arthur.caillot Timestamps [0:06] Introduction and episode framing [3:54] Why abundance — not lack — is the biggest obstacle for creators [5:41] How to tell if someone is drowning in choices rather than facing a skill gap [8:52] How creators rebuild their identity and start trusting their instincts [11:26] How Arthur manages multiple projects without losing focus [16:07] How and when to bring AI into your workflow responsibly [19:21] The first practical step for overwhelmed entrepreneurs and creators [23:22] Final thoughts Connect with Collins X: @0xOVCollins | LinkedIn: Collins Odabi Guest enquiries: podmatch.com/member/onyourmic Until next time, stay sharp, and keep showing up.

    Why More Tools Are Killing Your Creativity — and How Constraints Set You Free | Arthur Caillot
  8. Aug 10

    Why Founders Should Stop Avoiding Regulated Industries — and What Drone Delivery Reveals About the Future of Physical AI | Beth Flippo

    Innovation is often presented as a story of breakthrough ideas and rapid growth. What receives far less attention is the work required to build something the existing system was never designed to accommodate — where progress depends as much on patience and long-term thinking as it does on the technology itself. In this episode, Collins Victory Odabi sits down with Beth — a former Goldman Sachs and Department of Defence professional turned embedded engineer and aviation entrepreneur — to explore what leadership looks like when innovation moves faster than regulation, why fear is actually a signal worth following, and how autonomous delivery could reshape how local businesses compete. What You'll Learn Regulation is a roadmap, not a barrier. Beth made a deliberate decision to pursue one of the most heavily regulated industries in the country because she understood that certification would solve the hardest problem in robotics: public trust. When DEXA tells a customer their aircraft is FAA-certified, the conversation changes immediately. That trust cannot be shortcut. The certification process built a better product. The aircraft DEXA started with and the one that earned FAA certification were entirely different. Every component required full traceability. Every vendor needed a quality system. That level of rigour produced something competitors starting from scratch will take years to replicate. DEXA is not building drones — they are building certified aircraft. Physical AI is the next shift, and it will arrive faster than expected. AI tells you what to do. Autonomy does it for you. Beth's argument is that the gap between those two things will close rapidly, and business leaders who are not preparing for a world where physical systems act on AI decisions are already behind. Autonomous delivery levels the playing field for small businesses. The reason local stores lose to large chains is not quality — it is access. Amazon taught consumers to trade quality for speed. Autonomous delivery removes that trade-off. Beth envisions an entirely new category of small businesses that will emerge once delivery is no longer a barrier to entry. If you feel fear building something, you are probably onto something. Fear is not a signal to stop — it is a signal that you are building something genuinely unknown. The founders who learn to move through that fear rather than away from it are the ones who stay in the game long enough for the vision to materialise. About Beth Flippo Founder and CEO of DEXA, the first female CEO of an unmanned aviation company in the United States. Background spanning Goldman Sachs, the Department of Defence, and embedded software engineering. DEXA is one of only a handful of FAA-certified drone carriers in the country. 🌐 flydexa.com 📱 Instagram: @flydexa | @beth.flippo 🔗 LinkedIn: Flydexa Timestamps [0:04] Introduction and episode framing [3:20] Why Beth chose one of the most regulated industries in the country [6:00] What earning FAA certification actually required [8:34] Physical AI and autonomy — the next major technology shift [10:41] How autonomous delivery empowers local businesses [14:17] The mindset shift founders need when success feels distant [17:33] Final thoughts and how to connect with Beth Connect with Collins X: @0xOVCollins | LinkedIn: Collins Odabi Guest enquiries: podmatch.com/member/onyourmic Until next time, stay sharp, and keep showing up.

    Why Founders Should Stop Avoiding Regulated Industries — and What Drone Delivery Reveals About the Future of Physical AI | Beth Flippo
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