The Giving Game

Sophia Whitesell

What happens when you take sports away from athletes? You find out who they really are. Hosted by Sophie, The Giving Game is a one-of-a-kind podcast where athletes step out of the game and into something bigger. No stats. No scores. No surface-level interviews. Each episode is tied to a real, 7-day fundraising challenge—supporting causes that matter to the guests and giving listeners a chance to be part of something meaningful. You’ll hear raw conversations, unexpected stories, and a side of athletes the world rarely sees. This isn’t about sports. It’s about impact. Do you want to play?

  1. 2h ago

    Jennifer George on Building Girls Basketball Worldwide, Athlete Identity & Life After Sports

    She showed up to a $50,000 boarding school with no shoes — and that moment changed everything. In this episode of The Giving Game, host Sophie Whitesell sits down with Jennifer George, founder of Girls Basketball Worldwide Foundation, for a wide-ranging, no-sports-talk conversation about basketball as a tool, not an identity. Jennifer shares the origin story behind her foundation, born from her time playing for Jamaica's national women's basketball team and coaching at Montverde Academy, where she watched firsthand how talent alone isn't enough — kids from humble beginnings need real support to make the most of life-changing opportunities. Jennifer opens up about growing up in Orlando with a strict, British-military father and a "yes mom" who balanced things out, choosing recreation and event management over criminology after a rocky freshman year, and building a decade-long career as a strength and conditioning coach before founding her nonprofit. She and Sophie dig into life without kids by choice, the "rich auntie" life, and why nobody questions men the way they question women who don't want children. The conversation turns candid around athlete identity: Jennifer's advice for young athletes on separating self-worth from performance, the danger of treating sports as "the end all be all," and why she pushes girls in her program to know who they are outside the game. She also talks about the power of the Professional Athletes Community (PAC), the real cost and stigma athlete-led nonprofits face when competing for donor dollars against big-name organizations, and a brand-new partnership with Bras for Girls to support middle schoolers navigating an awkward age. If Jennifer's story moved you, consider supporting Girls Basketball Worldwide Foundation using the links below. What We Cover(00:46) What is Girls Basketball Worldwide, and why it started with a girl who had no shoes(02:43) Basketball as the tool, not the goal: Jennifer's path to college(03:32) Failing pre-law, finding recreation and event management at Florida(05:00) What separates a good event from a great one(06:51) Life without kids by choice — and the "rich auntie" mentality(09:10) Family background: a British military dad, a 96-year-old father, and growing up in Orlando(13:27) Bora Bora, bucket-list travel, and Jennifer's annual Jamaica trips with the foundation(16:43) Nerding out on sociology and strength & conditioning(24:54) Planning her exit from pro basketball before it happened(27:12) Advice for athletes on the transition out of sport(29:52) The danger of tying your worth to your performance(32:48) How social media, NIL, and year-round sports have changed youth athletics(38:31) Pro Athlete Community (PAC): building real relationships beyond networking events(45:33) Jennifer's 5-year vision for the foundation(47:37) Individual donors, golf scrambles, and what actually moves the needle(50:01) Why athlete-led nonprofits struggle for donor credibility — and why they deserve it(54:33) How to get involved with Girls Basketball Worldwide Foundation(55:30) New partnership announcement: Bras for GirlsSupport Girls Basketball Worldwide Foundation👉 Website: girlsbasketballwf.org 👉 Social: Girls Basketball Worldwide (Instagram) Donations, sponsorships, and partnership inquiries can be made directly through the website.

  2. Jul 17

    MMA Fighter Justin Wren on Addiction, Recovery & Fighting for Congo's Forgotten Pygmy Tribe

    What happens when an MMA fighter stops fighting against people and starts fighting for them? In this episode of The Giving Game, host Sophie Whitesell sits down with Justin Wren — former MMA fighter, keynote speaker, and founder of Fight for the Forgotten — for a conversation that goes far beyond the cage. True to the show's rules, there's no sports talk here. Instead, Justin opens up about hitting rock bottom with addiction, surviving two suicide attempts, and the sunrise that changed everything. Justin shares how he was adopted into the Pygmy tribes of the Congo Basin rainforest — the Mbuti, Efe, and Batwa peoples, among the oldest and most marginalized people groups on Earth — and how that second family inspired a nonprofit unlike any other. Fight for the Forgotten has helped secure over 3,000 acres of land rights, brought clean water to more than 100,000 people through 200+ sustainable water projects, and recently opened a critical access hospital with a thriving maternity ward. Every donation to Fight for the Forgotten during this campaign will be TRIPLED thanks to two matching gifts. Give at the link below and turn $10 into $30. What We Cover(00:00) The sunrise that saved Justin's life(02:02) The 3X matching gift — every donation tripled(02:54) What is Fight for the Forgotten? Justin's adoption into the Pygmy tribe(05:01) Why 230,000+ water wells in Africa are broken — and how to build ones that last(07:53) "Slow down and listen": the problem with fly-in, fly-out charity(12:02) Sophie's Ugandan colleague on "patronizing" Western aid(19:31) Voluntourism vs. expert volunteers — and the new Base Camp project(21:38) Rock bottom: addiction, treatment, and how the mission found Justin(22:59) Andy Bo's story: the $1 pills that could have saved a child's life(26:06) Why the Pygmy people had no land rights — and reclaiming 3,000+ acres(28:37) Modern-day slavery: 400,000–600,000 Mbuti enslaved in the Congo(31:28) Finding home in the rainforest (and surviving malaria six times)(37:58) Fight for Her: the women-led initiative behind the new maternity ward(39:27) Meeting Amy — love, relapse, and second chances(44:25) Be a lighthouse, not a lifeguard: supporting someone through addiction(47:27) How Justin learned to forgive himself: purpose through service(50:36) "I can't afford rehab" — Justin's honest answer(54:22) The yellow shoes, the second suicide attempt, and the most epic sunrise of his lifeAbout Justin WrenJustin Wren is a former professional MMA fighter turned humanitarian, keynote speaker, and founder of Fight for the Forgotten, a nonprofit dedicated to building better lives for the Pygmy peoples of the Congo Basin through holistic, locally led community development — land rights, clean water, farming, education, healthcare, and sustainable livelihoods. Two matching donors mean every dollar you give right now is worth three. A $10 gift becomes $30. A $100 gift becomes $300. 👉 Donate at fightfortheforgotten.org or fftf.org Connect with Justin WrenWebsite: fightfortheforgotten.orgInstagram: @thebigpygmy

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What happens when you take sports away from athletes? You find out who they really are. Hosted by Sophie, The Giving Game is a one-of-a-kind podcast where athletes step out of the game and into something bigger. No stats. No scores. No surface-level interviews. Each episode is tied to a real, 7-day fundraising challenge—supporting causes that matter to the guests and giving listeners a chance to be part of something meaningful. You’ll hear raw conversations, unexpected stories, and a side of athletes the world rarely sees. This isn’t about sports. It’s about impact. Do you want to play?

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