Very First Win

Goanna Capital

Success doesn't start with a headline. It starts with a first win. Very First Win takes you inside the exact moment top founders, investors, and operators realized they could actually make it. Each episode unpacks the deal, decision, or breakthrough that changed everything, and what that moment taught them. Hosted by Rob Hilmer of Goanna Capital, with guests spanning founders, investors, and industry leaders shaping what comes next. New episodes weekly.

  1. Aug 6

    eToro's Yoni Assia: We Listed Bitcoin in 2013 and Nobody Cared for 4 Years

    Yoni Assia is the co-founder and CEO of eToro, the social investing platform with more than 40 million registered users that listed on the Nasdaq in May 2025. He sat down with Rob Hilmer for Very First Win to walk through the moments the company was actually built on. His first trade at 13, sitting in his parents' basement, watching the price move on a Yahoo Finance blotter and realizing everything was connected. The 2008 financial crisis, when the banks unplugged the system and he started writing about what a 24/7 financial infrastructure should look like instead. Finding Bitcoin, working on the colored coins protocol with Vitalik Buterin, and listing Bitcoin on eToro in 2013 when almost nobody was paying attention. Then 2017, when the market finally showed up and eToro went from 200 new funded accounts a day to 20,000. He also gets into the last 30 days at eToro, where AI has gone from writing about 30% of their code to 70-80% on some teams, what OpenClaw unlocked internally, and why he thinks every retail investor is about to have a team of agents trading on their behalf. CONNECT Robert Hilmer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roberthilmer/ LISTEN Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0cTzEJW3juIZEBnyswNl9c?si=674c885122c64a70 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/very-first-win/id1896315027 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GoannaCapital Very First Win is hosted by Robert Hilmer, founder of Goanna Capital, a global private equity firm investing in category-leading private technology companies.

  2. Jun 18

    Andrew Parker (Papa Founder): He Almost Deleted His YC Interview Email

    Andrew Parker is the founder and CEO of Papa, the companion care platform pairing older adults with vetted "pals" who help with rides, tech, paperwork, and the thing nobody puts on a care plan: loneliness. In this episode, Andrew tells Rob about the moment that changed everything. He almost deleted the YC interview email at 5am, fished it out of his trash, and walked into a room where he was convinced everyone was smarter than him. Papa went on to become one of the hottest companies in its YC batch. We get into the bet that built the company (cutting bathing and toileting to scale companion care nationally), getting Medicare to cover a service that didn't exist five years ago, and why Andrew thinks you have to be a little irrational to build anything real. What we cover: The deleted YC email and the drive home convinced he'd lost Why he leaned into the two things he's great at and ignored the other 98% Building the "Uber of caregiving" by rethinking the rules Getting Medicare Advantage to cover companion care Being comfortable in the abyss and "absorbing" when things go against you Very First Win is hosted by Rob Hilmer, founder of Goanna Capital, and explores the early, defining moments behind the people building the future. Listen everywhere: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0cTzEJW3juIZEBnyswNl9c Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/very-first-win/id1896315027 YouTube: @GoannaCapital Rob Hilmer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roberthilmer/ Andrew Parker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-parker-30904417/

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Success doesn't start with a headline. It starts with a first win. Very First Win takes you inside the exact moment top founders, investors, and operators realized they could actually make it. Each episode unpacks the deal, decision, or breakthrough that changed everything, and what that moment taught them. Hosted by Rob Hilmer of Goanna Capital, with guests spanning founders, investors, and industry leaders shaping what comes next. New episodes weekly.