Revenue Marketing Raw

Jeff Pedowitz and Dr. Debbie Qaqish

Revenue Marketing Raw is a weekly unscripted B2B marketing podcast hosted by Jeff Pedowitz and Dr. Debbie Qaqish of The Pedowitz Group. Each 20-30 minute episode tackles one topic that makes CMOs sweat: AI's real impact on marketing teams, the death of MQLs, what's broken about pipeline coverage, why most ABM is just expensive lead gen, how Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) is replacing SEO, and what it actually takes to run marketing as a revenue function. The show is built for senior B2B marketing leaders: CMOs being asked to do more with less, VPs of Marketing and RevOps tired of dashboards that don't tie to revenue, Marketing Operations leaders stuck in IT support mode, and founders evaluating where AI moves the needle versus where it's theater. What makes it different: no guest pitches, no vendor sponsorships, no buzzwords, no scripted talking points. Just two senior practitioners, together representing 40+ years of advising Fortune 500 CMOs, saying the quiet part out loud. Debbie coined the term "Revenue Marketing" in 2010, TPG formalized it in 2012, and she has since authored Rise of the Revenue Marketer and From Backroom to Boardroom. Jeff has authored F the Funnel, The Revenue Marketer, AI Agents Made Simple, and The Attic and The Algorithm, and hosts CMO Insights, where he has interviewed 130+ marketing leaders. New episodes drop every Tuesday. Watch on YouTube and Vimeo, listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, or subscribe to the weekly email at pedowitzgroup.com/revenue-marketing-raw.

  1. Jun 23

    Season 1. Episode 42. Your Brand is No Longer What You Say It Is. It is What AI Says it is.

    Your Brand Is No Longer What You Say It Is Revenue Marketing Raw with Jeff Pedowitz and Dr. Debbie Qaqish Marketing has come full circle. After fifteen or twenty years of being pulled into demand generation and told to drive revenue above all else, brand is back at the center of the conversation. The problem is that AI showed up at the same time, and it is throwing a wrench into everything marketers thought they knew about controlling their own story. In this episode, Jeff and Debbie unpack what actually changed. Buyers now meet your company through AI before they ever touch your owned channels, and no matter how hard you worked on your brand, the model compresses it into a couple of sentences you never got to approve. AI gets your story out faster, which means you had better have the right story. When marketing, sales, and customer success are all repeating a brand promise that isn't true, AI doesn't fix the gap. It scales it. That leads to the uncomfortable core of the conversation: speed has been commoditized. If you can go faster, your competitors can too, and fast stops being a differentiator. The teams that win are not the ones publishing the most content. They are the ones applying human judgment, strategic thinking, and a real understanding of the customer behind every piece. Jeff and Debbie get specific about what AI can and cannot replicate. AI can fake your tone, your structure, your voice, even your people. What it cannot fake is lived experience: the specific names, dates, places, and points of view that only come from actually knowing your customers. They land on congruence as the real test of authenticity. Do you do what you say you will do, and does the customer's lived experience match the brand promise every single time? The discussion moves from diagnosis to action. The most practical move a marketer can make right now is to stop using AI only to go better, faster, and cheaper, and start using it to truly understand the customer. That is where the insight lives, and it is the surest way to keep a brand authentic as the market shifts. Along the way, Jeff and Debbie share the brands that get it right, from Axon's experiential brand promise to a personal American Express story that explains why Jeff will defend the brand to this day. The takeaway is simple and hard to live up to: good brand is true brand. A candid, unscripted conversation for marketing and revenue leaders navigating brand and authenticity in an AI-mediated market.

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Revenue Marketing Raw is a weekly unscripted B2B marketing podcast hosted by Jeff Pedowitz and Dr. Debbie Qaqish of The Pedowitz Group. Each 20-30 minute episode tackles one topic that makes CMOs sweat: AI's real impact on marketing teams, the death of MQLs, what's broken about pipeline coverage, why most ABM is just expensive lead gen, how Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) is replacing SEO, and what it actually takes to run marketing as a revenue function. The show is built for senior B2B marketing leaders: CMOs being asked to do more with less, VPs of Marketing and RevOps tired of dashboards that don't tie to revenue, Marketing Operations leaders stuck in IT support mode, and founders evaluating where AI moves the needle versus where it's theater. What makes it different: no guest pitches, no vendor sponsorships, no buzzwords, no scripted talking points. Just two senior practitioners, together representing 40+ years of advising Fortune 500 CMOs, saying the quiet part out loud. Debbie coined the term "Revenue Marketing" in 2010, TPG formalized it in 2012, and she has since authored Rise of the Revenue Marketer and From Backroom to Boardroom. Jeff has authored F the Funnel, The Revenue Marketer, AI Agents Made Simple, and The Attic and The Algorithm, and hosts CMO Insights, where he has interviewed 130+ marketing leaders. New episodes drop every Tuesday. Watch on YouTube and Vimeo, listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, or subscribe to the weekly email at pedowitzgroup.com/revenue-marketing-raw.