Emerging in Motherhood: Matrescence

The Matrescence Project

Emerging in Motherhood: Matrescence is a podcast exploring the transformation women experience as they become mothers. Through honest conversations, lived experiences, and expert insights, this project sheds light on the neurological, psychological, and social changes that we experience in the season of becoming a mother - matrescence - including those huge identity shifts that we can all relate to.  Whether you’re navigating trying to conceive, pregnancy, early motherhood, balancing career and family, a new stay at home lifestyle, or simply trying to make sense of who you are becoming, this podcast offers a space to feel seen, supported, and understood—reminding you that you’re not alone in the journey. Through these conversations we hope to normalise the experience of "becoming", while disrupting the current "bouncing back" culture. 

  1. 2d ago

    015: Losing Yourself in Motherhood? Matrescence, Grief and Becoming a New You with Katerina Annels

    Zana welcomes back Katerina Annels (lactation consultant and osteopath with 20 years experience and a clinical focus on pelvic health and postpartum care) for a deeper conversation about matrescence, the huge shift into motherhood. Matrescence is as big a transition as adolescence, but it gets very little acknowledgement or support. Together they talk about what changes in the brain, body and identity, the grief that sits alongside the joy, and how mums can make room for themselves. In this episode Why matrescence is comparable to adolescence, and why the brain is at its most neuroplastic in pregnancy and the fourth trimester How the brain rewires for caregiving, and why that can come with more anxiety The caregiving hormone prolactin, and why it isn't limited to the birthing parent. Katerina says it's tied to being the primary caregiver, and extends to adoptive and foster parents, especially with early contact Matrescence after loss: the identity shift is real whether or not there's a baby in your arms Katerina's experience of a medically advised termination, and the "Pip's Lessons" board she and her husband made Why motherhood can bring late discoveries of ADHD or autism, as old coping strategies stop working Grieving the old you and welcoming the new one at the same time Why mums often lose their own physical space, and how to reclaim some of it Birth as a liminal space or rite of passage, and what non-birthing and adoptive parents could use too Why "bouncing back" is the wrong goal, plus pelvic floor recovery and functional fitness Katerina's postpartum hemorrhage story and hand-expressing milk in recovery A message for the mum who feels lost You can grieve the you that was and be excited by the you that's emerging, and hold both at once. Carve out a small space that's just yours, even a shelf. Mentioned in the episode The Nurture Revolution, which Katerina is currently reading Mothershift by Jesse Harrold, which Zana is reading Dr. Vanessa LaPointe, for her work on parenting The Rites of Passage Institute (northern NSW) This episode is for general information and shared experience, not medical advice. Speak to a qualified health professional about your own care.

  2. Oct 12

    014: Matrescence & Postpartum Support: How to Build Your Village with Katerina Annels Part I

    In this episode of Emerging in Motherhood: Matrescence, Zana welcomes Katerina Annels — an osteopath, trained lactation consultant and creator of the Nurture Online 7 Sisters program — for a thoughtful conversation about matrescence, postpartum care, maternal wellbeing and why every mother deserves a village. Katerina shares how her own experiences, including pregnancy loss and becoming a mother, shaped her understanding of matrescence and the support women need through the transition into motherhood. Together, we explore why postpartum recovery is about more than caring for a newborn, and how practical, emotional and community support can make a meaningful difference to a mother's wellbeing, recovery and early parenting experience. In this episode, we explore: What matrescence is and how becoming a mother transforms our identity and sense of self. Why postpartum care and support for mothers often feel scarce once a baby arrives. The importance of the fourth trimester, postpartum rest, nourishment and recovery. How practical help — from meals and household tasks to caring for older children — creates space for mothers to rest and bond with their babies. How to build your village before birth and create a postpartum support plan that reflects your family's needs. Why asking for help can feel difficult, how to communicate specific needs, and why it's important to make saying “no” an acceptable answer. What we can learn from cultural traditions that prioritise postpartum rest, nourishment and community care. How neighbours, friends and people across generations can become part of a mother's support network. Why supporting mothers is not just an individual or family responsibility, but a wider cultural and societal one. Katerina also shares more about her Nurture Online 7 Sisters program, which helps expectant mothers build a practical, sustainable postpartum support network before their baby arrives. While she is not currently running the workshops, mums can still access the information available through the website.  Explore Katerina's 7 Sisters program: https://nurtureonline.org/7-sisters-sales-page Because preparing for a baby should mean more than preparing the nursery. It should also mean preparing the community that will care for the mother. If we want mothers to feel supported rather than isolated, and if we want our children and grandchildren to inherit a kinder, more connected world, we need to rethink how we approach postpartum care — and start building those communities now. Because we don't simply bounce back. We rupture, we reshape, and we emerge. This is matrescence. Connect with Emerging in Motherhood for more real conversations about the experiences, identities and transformations that shape us as mothers As always, if you would like up to date information from Emerging in Motherhood: Matrescence, including the opportunity to send in your questions ahead of expert interviews then follow along on Facebook or https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61575355774112 https://www.instagram.com/emergeinmotherhoodmatrescence/

  3. Sep 29

    013: The Emotional Transformation of Motherhood: A Mum's Story of Matrescence, Mental Load, and Finding Her Village

    Motherhood doesn’t mean “bouncing back” to who you were before. It can reshape your identity, values, relationships, career, and sense of self - yet many women enter pregnancy with almost no preparation for the emotional transformation ahead. Zana and her guest explore what happens when motherhood collides with emotionally demanding work, invisible mental load, and the pressure to support everyone else. The guest shares her experience as a child protection lawyer and mother, including the compassion fatigue that followed her home, the impact on her relationship, and why running and connection with other women became essential forms of support.You’ll hear about: Why compassion fatigue can affect your home life even when you remain compassionate and effective at work What pregnant women should be told about matrescence, identity change, and the feeling of becoming a different person Why hospital classes and pamphlets often miss the emotional realities of birth, breastfeeding, and early motherhood How moving towns can mean rebuilding your village from scratch Why support needs to begin during pregnancy and continue well beyond the first six months postpartum The practical challenge of receiving help when you are not someone who naturally asks for it The guest also reflects on preparing for the possibility of going from one child to two, the unexpected ways motherhood can change long-term goals, and the importance of accepting that the journey will keep shifting. Her river metaphor offers a powerful reminder: motherhood has rapids and smoother waters, but trying to fight the current only makes the journey harder. For every mother who has felt emotionally depleted, isolated, guilty, or surprised by how much motherhood changed her, this conversation offers recognition and reassurance. You are not failing. You are navigating a profound transition, and you were never meant to do it alone As always, if you would like up to date information from The Matrescence Project, including the opportunity to send in your questions ahead of expert interviews then follow The Matrescence Project on Facebook or Instagram https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61575355774112 https://www.instagram.com/matrescence_project/

  4. Sep 13

    012: The Birth of a Mother: Matrescence, Birth Trauma, & Postpartum Mental Health with Midwife and Health Birth Practitioner, Emma from EmPower Matrescence

    When You Become a Mother, You’re Born Too You can prepare for birth, baby’s arrival, and the endless newborn essentials, but how do you prepare for the birth of you? If motherhood has left you anxious, overwhelmed, disconnected, or wondering why nobody warned you about this transformation, this conversation is for you. I speak with Emma from Empower Matrescence, a perinatal mental health nurse, birth debriefer, maternal and infant health researcher, and postnatal support practitioner. Emma shares how her own experience of breastfeeding struggles, extreme sleep deprivation, undiagnosed thyroid issues, and inadequate support revealed the gap between what mothers need and what the maternity system often provides.Together, we unpack: Why matrescence is a profound physical, emotional, psychological, cultural, systemic, and spiritual transition How the brain rewires for vigilance during pregnancy and postpartum, and when normal vigilance can become hypervigilance and anxiety The far-reaching effects of birth trauma on the nervous system, bonding, relationships, confidence, and help-seeking How sleep deprivation, birth experiences, nutrition, thyroid health, iron, vitamin D, and other contributing factors can compound perinatal mental health struggles Why values and identity can shift dramatically when you begin seeing the world through the lens of “we” instead of “me” Emma also explains why so many mothers fall into the gap between coping and crisis, where they are struggling deeply but do not qualify for the services designed for more severe mental health needs. Her story exposes what happens when mothers are blamed for their distress instead of being listened to, validated, and supported as whole people.This episode offers a compassionate reframe: you are not failing because motherhood feels harder than expected. You are moving through a major developmental transformation, often without the village, preparation, or care you deserve and need. And if life feels relentlessly difficult, reaching out for support is not weakness or evidence that you are a bad mother. It may be one of the bravest and most transformative things you do. Essential listening for expectant mothers, new mums, mothers processing a difficult birth, and anyone who wants a more honest and compassionate understanding of the journey into motherhood. If you would like to reach out to Emma personally, please visit her website: https://www.empowermatrescence.com  And as always, if you would like up to date information from The Matrescence Project, including the opportunity to send in your questions ahead of expert interviews then follow The Matrescence Project on Facebook or Instagram https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61575355774112 https://www.instagram.com/matrescence_project/

  5. Aug 31

    011: When Work Doesn't Fit Anymore: How Motherhood Changes Your Identity, Career, and Values.

    Have you been planning your return to work after motherhood, but now feel a little lost about how to actually make it happen? Perhaps you had the itch to return to work, only to discover that when you did, something didn't quite fit anymore. Or maybe you're still itching to return to your career, but aren't sure what that should look like now that you're a mother. Whatever your relationship with work, career and motherhood, today's conversation with India Sutherland from India Sutherland Coaching is likely to speak to you. India experienced first-hand how matrescence can shift our identity, and how those changes can have profound implications for our careers, ambitions and the way we want to work. Like many mothers, she eventually left the corporate world and built a coaching business that allows her to work in a way that is much more aligned with her values, her family and the life she wants to create. In this conversation, India shares practical advice for mothers returning to work or navigating work after having children, including how to approach conversations with your employer, ask for the flexibility you need, and navigate the realities of sick children, school and daycare commitments, pickups and the many unexpected demands of family life. But we also go deeper. Because sometimes a difficult daycare or school drop-off—when your little person is clinging to your leg and begging you not to leave—can leave you wondering: Is this really what I want to be doing? How can I make this work better? What do I actually value? And perhaps most importantly: What do my family and I actually need from the way we structure our lives? Because our values aren't simply a buzzword. As we move through matrescence and motherhood, our values can become clearer, shift or feel increasingly difficult to ignore. And when the way we're living and working feels out of alignment with those values, we can feel the consequences. This is a conversation about motherhood and identity, returning to work, career change after having children, workplace flexibility, family needs and finding a way of working that feels more congruent with the woman you've become. If you'd like to hear more from India or learn more about her coaching and how she supports mothers, you can find her through her website, Instagram and Substack below: https://indiasutherland.com https://www.instagram.com/indiasutherland.coaching?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsi=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== https://substack.com/@indiasutherlandcoaching Topics discussed: matrescence, motherhood identity, returning to work after motherhood, career after motherhood, working mothers, career change, workplace flexibility, values, motherhood and career, Australian mothers, flexible work.

  6. Aug 15

    010: Returning to Work After Maternity Leave, the Skills You Gain in Matrescence & Research Findings that Can Shape Workplace and Systemic Change

    Are you on maternity leave or planning your return to work transition? Have you recently returned but feel different, changed, or like you are not performing in the same way?  According to Mothered Magazine’s editor-in-chief, TEDx speaker, author and award-winning workplace culture innovator, Alexa Starks, mums often do feel a difference in their performance - but for the better. If you need the evidence to help you understand the change or perhaps the language to explain it to others then this conversation is for you.  Alexa also discusses what workplaces can do from a systemic perspective to better support mothers returning to work after maternity leave, and how this is in fact in their best interests as well as yours.  We also discuss the long-overdue and much-needed change in the narrative of mothers, motherhood, and how awesome this real-life experience actually is for our leadership skills.  If you want to access the full report (and perhaps show it to your boss?) visit: https://www.motheredmagazine.com You can also check out Alexa Starks on Substack or Instagram.   In future, if you want the opportunity to send in your questions to the incredibly knowledgeable women who will be sharing their insight and expertise on this podcast in future episodes, be sure to follow along on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matrescence_project/ or on The Matrescence Project's Facebook Page where I share the details before the interviews.  This is a podcast for all of us, so I want you to have the opportunity to have your questions answered!

  7. Aug 1

    009: Becoming a Mother in Canada, Unexpected Pregnancy, Postnatal Depression, and Transitioning into a More Authentic Version of Yourself in Matrescence

    Emily joins me from Canada to share her deeply honest journey through an unexpected path into motherhood. Together, we explore matrescence through multiple lenses—from the cultural and societal expectations placed on mothers to the deeply personal pressure so many women carry to become the elusive "good mother." With remarkable vulnerability, Emily reflects on how motherhood challenged the identity she had carefully presented to the world, and how the transition through matrescence ultimately led her to discover a version of herself that felt genuinely authentic for the first time. Our conversation also turns to the future. Emily shares the changes she hopes to see in the way society prepares, supports, and validates new parents, believing that a better understanding of matrescence has the power to transform the experience of motherhood for future generations. Although we discuss differences between pregnancy and postpartum care in Canada and Australia, one truth remains universal: no matter where a woman lives, becoming a mother is a profound psychological, emotional, and social transition. Matrescence knows no borders, yet too often women are expected to navigate this transformation without the understanding, language, or support they deserve. This conversation is a powerful reminder that while every mother's story is unique, the experience of becoming a mother is something that connects women across the world.

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Emerging in Motherhood: Matrescence is a podcast exploring the transformation women experience as they become mothers. Through honest conversations, lived experiences, and expert insights, this project sheds light on the neurological, psychological, and social changes that we experience in the season of becoming a mother - matrescence - including those huge identity shifts that we can all relate to.  Whether you’re navigating trying to conceive, pregnancy, early motherhood, balancing career and family, a new stay at home lifestyle, or simply trying to make sense of who you are becoming, this podcast offers a space to feel seen, supported, and understood—reminding you that you’re not alone in the journey. Through these conversations we hope to normalise the experience of "becoming", while disrupting the current "bouncing back" culture. 

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