On The Rise w/ Marcius Extavour

Marcius Extavour

On the Rise is a podcast about climate and the future—but not in the usual way. Across energy, technology, business, and culture, it features honest conversations with people building things, making decisions, and figuring out what actually works. Grounded, curious, and occasionally funny—a more human conversation about the future.

  1. 3d ago

    How Do You Disappear 40 Billion Tons of Stuff?

    Dr. Klaus Lackner joins Marcius for part 2 of their conversation on carbon management. This week, Marcius and Klaus zoom out a bit to discuss the non-engineering aspects of carbon removal like insurance policies, market forces, and legal traditions. Klaus is well known for being a creative and disruptive thinker and he expands more on how he approaches complex problems and how you can learn to do the same!  As a bonus, Klaus and Marcius had a fascinating discussion over email, expanding on a few topics in this episode. If you're interested in reading about their discussion, please subscribe to our Substack! We'll be posting about their discussion there shortly and its also just a great place to hear more from us and our guests.  https://substack.com/@ontherisepodcast Let us know what you think at podontherise@gmail.com Chapters: 00:00 Oil-price shifts and signs of changing dependence 06:14 Who should get limited clean electricity? 09:41 Treating CO2 like sewage and municipal waste 13:20 What permanence means for carbon storage 18:17 Can law and insurance handle millennial guarantees? 23:06 Nuclear waste, missed chances, and rising CO2 28:05 Why carbon removal needs policy-created demand 32:16 Oil dependence, energy security, and electric cars 35:10 International science and academic turf 39:12 Unorthodox ideas, peer review, and open debate 42:04 How to enter a new field and learn its language 45:01 Impact, learning rates, and scaling technology 50:42 Do larger wind turbines deliver better economics? Show credits: Vishrudh Sriramprasad, Producer Kheya Patel, Art | https://kheyapatel.com/  Claire Davis, Theme Music (Long Gone, Get It Right) |  @clairedavismusic   Keywords: carbon management, carbon removal, direct air capture, carbon storage, clean energy, scientific peer review, learning rates On the Rise is a production of Extempo Media, copyright 2026. Show Credits: Vishrudh Sriramprasad, Producer Claire Davis, Theme Music (Long Gone, Get It Right) | @clairedavismusic Kheya Patel, Art | https://kheyapatel.com/ Contact: podontherise@gmail.com On the Rise is a production of Extempo Media, copyright 2026.

  2. Oct 27

    Thinking Deeply About Garbage: How Klaus Lackner Invented Direct Air Capture

    This week Marcius Extavour interviews particle physicist turned energy expert Klaus Lackner, a pioneer in the field of carbon management. Klaus shares stories from his days working on energy and how that led into carbon management, why carbon dioxide should be treated as a waste-management problem, and how it might work at scale. The conversation ranges from energy abundance and persistent resource use, to mineral storage, modular automation and self-replicating machines, estimating costs based on energy and mass, and passive carbon capture. What would you do with 40 billion tons of garbage? Let us know what you think at podontherise@gmail.com Chapters: 01:52 The Transition from the Stone Age to Modern Energy 04:08 Understanding Carbon Dioxide Emissions 04:32 Carbon Management: Avoid, Reduce, and Remove 07:15 Introducing Professor Klaus Lackner 08:56 First Principles Thinking in Climate Solutions 13:26 Exaplain Hubbard's Peak 24:03 Direct Air Capture 101 24:33 The Four Steps of CO2 Removal 26:17 Saving Energy: Passive vs Active DAC 32:50 Understanding Mineralization and CO2 37:24 Explain Mineralization 44:10 Explain Energy Pricing/ Kilowatts, etc... 45:32 Understanding Cost Metrics in Energy and Manufacturing 46:50 The Concept of Irreducible Cost 54:16 Explain How DAC Works 01:04:51 Exploring First Principles Thinking 01:05:15 The Role of Carbon Removal in Future Solutions Keywords: direct air capture, carbon dioxide removal, carbon management, carbon capture, mineralization, passive direct air capture, carbon storage, energy systems, automation, climate technology, peak oil, Hubbert, Stone Age, irreducible cost, Sherwood’s law. Show Credits: Vishrudh Sriramprasad, Producer Claire Davis, Theme Music (Long Gone, Get It Right) | @clairedavismusic Kheya Patel, Art | https://kheyapatel.com/ Contact: podontherise@gmail.com On the Rise is a production of Extempo Media, copyright 2026.

  3. Oct 20

    Copper is the New Cotton. Have We Learned Anything from Slavery?

    Bayeté Ross Smith returns to the show for part two. He and Marcius weigh exponential growth against exploitative extraction in the context of AI, clean energy, and computing technology. Will we learn the lessons from the dark side of the transatlantic Slave trade, and resource exploitation? Marcius and Bayete discuss the connection between Hip Hop  and other American music, why copper lithium and critical minerals may be the new cotton, sugarcane, and tobacco, and how to distinguish between cultural remixing and cultural appropriation. Let us know what you think at podontherise@gmail.com Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to the themes of resource extraction and culture 02:15 The demand for metals and resource extraction in the modern era 04:07 Upsides and downsides of resource extraction and mining 05:19 Culture and music as resistance to extractive economics 07:01 The Boom Box project and its cultural significance 10:15 Why cotton, sugarcane, and tobacco are central to colonial history 12:17 Music genres as tools of resistance and their global impact 17:24 Bayeté Ross Smith’s public art projects around the world 23:27 Parallels between historical commodities and modern critical minerals 27:15 Recycling, circularity, and the sustainability of natural resources 36:23 Cultural participation, remixing, and intellectual property 45:56 AI as a tool for culture and its ethical considerations 51:39 The potential for AI to generate independent cultural works 56:36 Climate change, social justice, and historical inequities 58:35 Western progress, colonialism, and global inequities Resources: https://www.bayeterosssmith.com/ Keywords: resource extraction, culture, art, colonialism, music, AI, sustainability, cultural appropriation, climate change, technology Show Credits: Vishrudh Sriramprasad, Producer Claire Davis, Theme Music (Long Gone, Get It Right) | @clairedavismusic Kheya Patel, Art | https://kheyapatel.com/ Contact: podontherise@gmail.com On the Rise is a production of Extempo Media, copyright 2026.

  4. Oct 13

    What Does Being Yourself Actually Mean? A Harlem Photojournalist's Lens on AI, Race, and Identity

    Our guest this week is Bayeté Ross Smith, a sculptor, photojournalist, and professor at NYU. Marcius and Bayeté explore how identity influences our social interactions, the impact of technology-- specifically AI-- on perception, and the future of imagination. They explore questions like "Who gets identified as an expert?" and "Who gets to imagine the future?" while grounding them in the real issues such as race, AI, and of course-- climate change. We hope you'll love this deep dive into who we are and how we are seen! Let us know what you think at podontherise@gmail.com Chapters: 00:00 Why Can't You Just Be Yourself? 00:44 What is Identity Politics? 07:00 Bayate's Work in Appearance, Identity, & Perception 09:16 What is DuBois' Double Consciousness? 15:25 What Does a Physicist Look Like? 16:32 Who Get's to Be An Expert? 20:35 How AI's and Machine's Perceive Humans 24:24 What Images Should We Use to Talk About Climate? 26:22 How Identity Shifts Across Asia, Africa, and Europe 30:37 Who Gets to Imagine the Future? 37:27 Knowing What You Don't Know 39:39 Outro and the Music of Claire Davis Resources: •Bayate's website: https://www.bayeterosssmith.com/  Keywords: identity, perception, expertise, code switching, AI bias, future imagination, social identity, art and society, climate imagery, cultural perception. Show Credits: Vishrudh Sriramprasad, Producer Claire Davis, Theme Music (Long Gone, Get It Right) | @clairedavismusic Kheya Patel, Art | https://kheyapatel.com/ Contact: podontherise@gmail.com On the Rise is a production of Extempo Media, copyright 2026.

  5. Oct 6

    Are the Kids Alright? Flipping the Switch from Anxiety to Action

    This week we’re back navigating hard things with Laura Devlin, registered clinical psychologist and co-founder of Beaches Therapy. Marcius opens by sharing a difficult childhood memory - against his better judgement -  before he and Laura talk about kids and youth and the pressures they face in modern life, and the value of long-term thinking. They get into the psychological barriers to action, the impact of social media, and ways to foster collectivism and support future generations as antidotes to loneliness and anxiety. This episode features an honest, human, and cautiously optimistic take about the future. Let us know what you think at podontherise@gmail.com Chapters: 00:00 Symptoms of PTSD 00:58 Introduction to the Conversation 02:02 Exploring Existential Dread 02:16 Understanding Youth Pressures 02:43 Exploring Common Themes in Mental Health 04:13 The Pressure on Youth Today 09:45 Navigating Social Media and Beauty Standards 12:19 The Impact of Climate Change on Mental Health 16:23 Long-Term Perspectives in a Fast-Paced World 20:11 Barriers to Action in the Face of Existential Dread 25:14 The Role of Villains in Climate Action 29:38 Finding Common Ground for Change 34:28 Challenges in Accessing Therapy 37:11 The Fear of Change and Its Implications 41:47 Introduction and Community Dynamics 41:47 A Night at the Hollywood Bowl 45:54 Reflections on Community and Connection Resources:   •Laura's website: beachestherapy.ca - Charity: pennyspromise.ca - Laura's Instagram: @pennyspromisefund - Beaches Therapy: @beachestherapygroup - Laura's podcast: The Plot Twist Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0crHcr1Lf07pNOrtC25IdE?si=4c7bee2a0d5349af Keywords: mental health, community, generativity, trauma, climate anxiety, therapy, collective action, existential dread, social media, hope, children Show Credits: Vishrudh Sriramprasad, Producer Claire Davis, Theme Music (Long Gone, Get It Right) | @clairedavismusic Kheya Patel, Art | https://kheyapatel.com/ Contact: podontherise@gmail.com On the Rise is a production of Extempo Media, copyright 2026.

  6. Sep 29

    How Does That Make You Feel? The Psychology of Tackling Big Scary Problems

    In this episode, registered psychotherapist and co-founder of Beaches Therapy Laura Devlin joins the show. She and Marcius explore how working on oneself can parallel tackling large societal issues like AI fears, war, politics, climate change, family strife, and the role of therapy, community, and emotional regulation in creating lasting change. Laura shares her journey from counselor to entrepreneur, what she misses about seeing clients day-to-day. Next they get into why working on oneself is so hard, but possibly a necessary step in tackling big hard scary problems. Let us know what you think at podontherise@gmail.com Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to addressing hard problems through psychology 02:10 Marcius's background in tackling complex issues 03:08 The value of emotional and community tools in problem-solving 05:16 The impact of burnout and interdisciplinary approaches 06:31 Introducing Laura Devlin and her work in therapy 08:23 Transition from one-on-one therapy to community and self-work 10:18 The therapeutic process and understanding therapy modalities 13:41 Therapy 101: How therapy works and what to expect 18:32 The therapy roadmap and active ingredients in therapy 21:24 Common misconceptions about therapy and emotional work 23:20 The importance of feelings, processing, and self-awareness 26:24 The role of trauma and the limbic system in healing 27:12 Time and patience in emotional healing 30:34 Themes in community mental health and current struggles 32:25 The impact of global crises on mental health 34:43 Climate anxiety and collective emotional responses 36:45 Different fears related to climate change and environmental loss 41:25 Existential dread and feelings of helplessness 43:41 The human need for connection and attachment 44:53 Loneliness, social connection, and modern life 54:24 Challenges of collective action and community organization 55:56 Hope for community-driven solutions and social change 56:56 Reflections on the conversation and personal reactions Resources: * Website: beachestherapy.ca * Instagram: @beachestherapygroup * Laura's podcast: The Plot Twist Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0crHcr1Lf07pNOrtC25IdE?si=4c7bee2a0d5349af * Charity: pennyspromise.ca Keywords: psychology, therapy, emotional health, climate change, community, hard problems, mental health, healing, therapy roadmap Show Credits: Vishrudh Sriramprasad, Producer Claire Davis, Theme Music (Long Gone, Get It Right) | @clairedavismusic Kheya Patel, Art | https://kheyapatel.com/ Contact: podontherise@gmail.com On the Rise is a production of Extempo Media, copyright 2026.

  7. Sep 22

    LIVE From New York! Midnight Takes from Climate Week

    Marcius and producer Vish are live from New York City, Climate Week 2026. Thousands of people from around the world have descended on the city that never sleeps to talk environmental justice, energy, finance, politics, technology, activism, and AI's role in climate solutions. Marcius and Vish meet up in a hotel lobby late on a Monday night to share insights from the day's events, and the key themes and vibes on the ground so far. Let us know what you think at podontherise@gmail.com Chapters: 00:21 Introduction to New York Climate Week 00:43 What Is New York Climate Week and Who Cares? 02:28 Navigating the Chaos of Climate Week 05:36 Highlights of New York Climate Week Day 1 05:45 Highlights and Insights from Events 09:12 Understanding Environmental Justice 10:53 The Legacy of Environmental Justice 13:08 Connecting Public Health and Environmental Issues 16:29 Public Health Is Part of the Climate Conversation 19:44 Networking and Policy Discussions at Dinner 21:08 Insights from Legislators on Climate Policy 23:34 Planning for the Future of Climate Policy 25:24 Connecting Climate Solutions to Immediate Needs 26:45 The Intersection of AI and Climate Policy 31:15 Urgency in Addressing AI vs. Climate Change 34:50 Why Act on AI but Not on Climate? 35:16 The Role of National Security in Climate Action 41:07 The Future of Climate Action Amidst Immediate Crises Keywords: Climate Week, environmental justice, AI and climate, policy planning, climate solutions, New York, climate justice, data centers, public health, climate policy Show Credits: Vishrudh Sriramprasad, Producer Claire Davis, Theme Music (Long Gone, Get It Right) | @clairedavismusic Kheya Patel, Art | https://kheyapatel.com/ Contact: podontherise@gmail.com On the Rise is a production of Extempo Media, copyright 2026.

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On the Rise is a podcast about climate and the future—but not in the usual way. Across energy, technology, business, and culture, it features honest conversations with people building things, making decisions, and figuring out what actually works. Grounded, curious, and occasionally funny—a more human conversation about the future.

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