NL | Welkom bij Podcast de Verdieping! In Aflevering 7 schuift een bijzondere gast aan bij Nicole Terborg, vanuit de VS: Dr. Joy DeGruy. Dr. DeGruy is een professor sociaal werk en auteur van het boek: ‘Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome’. In deze aflevering duiken we in dat thema: wat is het ‘Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome’ en op wat voor manieren leeft het slavernijverleden door vandaag de dag? Wat is er nodig om daarvan te helen? Ze deelt ook meer over haar persoonlijke motivatie: wat drijft Dr. DeGruy om bezig te zijn met dit thema? En hoe kijkt zij naar de verschillende ontwikkelingen in de VS, maar ook hier in Nederland? ENG | Welcome to the ‘Podcast de Verdieping’! In Episode 7, Nicole Terborg is joined by a special guest from the US: Dr. Joy DeGruy. Dr. DeGruy is a professor of social work and the author of the book ‘Post-Traumatic Slave Syndrome’. In this episode, we delve into this topic: what is ‘Post-Traumatic Slave Syndrome’ and in what ways does the legacy of slavery live on today? What is needed to heal from it? She also shares more about her personal motivation: what drives Dr. DeGruy to focus on this topic? And how does she view the various developments in the US, as well as here in the Netherlands? The conversation opens with warmth and depth. Nicole brings Dr. DeGruy back to her childhood in South Central Los Angeles: how she grew up standing up for others, never letting fear stop her from doing what was right, even when it brought pushback (00:00). Dr. DeGruy shares the story of her father teaching her to fish, a thread that runs through her life: keep going despite fear, prove to yourself you still can (03:29). When asked what keeps her going in this heavy work, she returns to the same girl from the sandbox in kindergarten: something that harms people is simply unacceptable (07:26). That sense of justice was shaped profoundly by her father, who, on his deathbed, shared words she would carry forever: “The road of life is long and it is hard. Do not try to walk that road alone.” And in the same breath, the stories he had never told: the humiliation he had endured, silently, for her (16:12). In this episode you’ll hear: (00:00) Introduction: Dr. Joy DeGruy joins Nicole Terborg to discuss Post-Traumatic Slave Syndrome(03:29) Growing up in South Central L.A., her father teaching her to fish, and how fear never stopped her\(16:12) The final conversation with her dying father: the stories he carried in silence his entire life, for her(19:23) Why knowing your history matters: “We are the embodiment of everything our ancestors hoped for”(28:41) How Dr. DeGruy developed her theory: from behavioral patterns in her neighborhood to seven countries in Africa and slave narratives(37:28) The most powerful example of PTSS: two mothers, two sons, and a survival behavior that has traveled 300 years(45:26) “The system isn’t broken. It is doing exactly what it was designed to do.”(53:05) Learned helplessness and the tools for healing: knowledge, action, and walking through the door together(62:49) The US today: book bans, lynchings, legislation. And still: “We have dealt with far worse.”(68:00) A message for the Netherlands: connect, resist fracturing, and stay in your lane and do something Follow us everywhere: Website: https://herdenkingscomiteslavernijverleden.org Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hcslv/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hcslv LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hc-slv/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hc-slv Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/033fkpkjx5lZ0LGzSbVc4L?si=18cd1b38a37a4507 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/herdenkingscomite_slv
