Tend The Terrain Podcast with Dr. Nasha

Andres Cabrales Romero
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Tend the Terrain with Dr. Nasha is a weekly podcast about the conditions that shape our lives, biological, emotional, relational, cultural, and ecological. The ground beneath our health. The rhythms that regulate us. The environments, internal and external, that determine whether life thrives or quietly begins to unravel. Hosted by Dr. Nasha Winters, a three-decade integrative oncology thought leader, two-time author, cancer thriver, and creator of the Metabolic Approach to Cancer® and Terrain Ten™ framework, this show invites scientists, farmers, clinicians, artists, and lived experience leaders into conversations that prioritize pattern recognition over protocols, meaning over metrics, and restoration over force. This is not a show about fixing what’s broken. It’s about understanding what supports life. If you’re curious about how timing, relationships, nervous systems, land, story, and self-trust shape human health and capacity, pull up a chair. New episodes weekly.

  1. 1d ago

    The Body That Reacts To Everything with Dr. Kelly McCann | Ep. 017

    Dr. Kelly McCann has the kind of credentials that open any door in conventional medicine — an MD and a Master's in public health and tropical medicine from Tulane, one of only about 3000 physicians worldwide to complete Andrew Weil's integrative medicine fellowship. And then she did something that tells you everything about her: she went back to school for a Master's in Spiritual Psychology. Not because the science failed her, but because it kept running out before her patients did. Because her patients are the ones nobody else can figure out. The people who react to everything — a candle, a meal, a damp room, a new couch. The mold-sick, the mast-cell-activated, the ones carrying Lyme and a dozen labels and a quiet suspicion that they're being dismissed as anxious. In this conversation, Dr. Nasha and Kelly sit with a radical reframe: that a body reacting to everything isn't malfunctioning — it's an intelligent system that has stopped trusting its ground. They go into the invisible terrain most of medicine can't see, or won't: the mold in the walls, the load in the air, the built world we've decided not to feel. And they follow it all the way down to the part Kelly refuses to skip — that no binder, no protocol, no perfect elimination diet heals a nervous system that doesn't feel safe. This is a conversation about the sensitive being right, not weak. About safety as biochemistry. About what happens when a physician stops treating the reaction and starts asking what the body is trying to protect. For anyone who's ever been told their symptoms were in their head — and suspected, correctly, that their body knew something the tests couldn't name. Tend the Terrain™ is proudly supported by DHA Laboratories, my exclusive lab partner and the testing pillar of everything we do here. Test, Assess, Address, Don't Guess™ only holds up if the testing behind it does — and DHA keeps it all under one roof: family-owned, CLIA-licensed, with standard tests as well as thousands of functional tests, and real people who actually pick up the phone. They've built special access and pricing just for my listeners. More From Dr. Nasha Winters

  2. 6d ago

    I Called It My Personality with Dr. Raoul Goldberg | Ep. 016

    Dr. Raoul Goldberg carried his trauma for fifty years without knowing it was there. He knew something wasn’t right — the anxiety that arrived whenever he was in the spotlight, the need to prepare before every encounter, the careful management of exposure. But it felt so ordinary that he had long since stopped questioning it. He called it his personality. He called it who he was. And underneath it, unmet since the age of four, was a small boy who had been hurt at nursery school, sent back the next day with his head still in bandages, and met with laughter instead of comfort. The event was two minutes long. The adaptation lasted half a century. Raoul is an integrative physician and psychotherapist in Cape Town who has spent five decades sitting with people carrying cancer, autoimmune disease, chronic pain, addiction, and exhaustion — and who kept noticing something the biochemistry could not account for. Behind most chronic illness, he found, there was a psychosocial story: unspoken grief, chronic over-responsibility, the quiet depletion of a person who had spent decades being strong for everyone else. In this conversation, he and Dr. Nasha sit with the reframe at the center of his new book, The Trauma You Call Normal: that our coping is not pathology. It is adaptive intelligence — a brilliant, coherent reorganization of a self that had to find a way to survive. The child who became a healer was searching for the healing he himself desperately needed. And that same intelligence, unrecognized, later becomes vocation, talent, and gift. This is a conversation about what it costs to carry a protective pattern that was never allowed to rest — and about the strange grace of discovering that the wound and the gift were never two things. They talk about the terrain a child is born into, the atmosphere absorbed before there was any language for it, the way a body organizes around vigilance instead of restoration, and why abstinence, discipline, and doing everything right so rarely reach the place that actually hurts. For anyone who has built a competent, admired life on top of something they have never quite turned around to face. Tend the Terrain™ is proudly supported by DHA Laboratories, my exclusive lab partner and the testing pillar of everything we do here. Test, Assess, Address, Don't Guess™ only holds up if the testing behind it does — and DHA keeps it all under one roof: family-owned, CLIA-licensed, with standard tests as well as thousands of functional tests, and real people who actually pick up the phone. They've built special access and pricing just for my listeners. More From Dr. Nasha Winters

  3. Aug 26

    The Man Who Swam Through It with Dean Hall | Ep. 015

    When Dean Hall waded into Oregon's Willamette River in the summer of 2014, he wasn't trying to beat cancer. He was a marriage-and-family therapist of more than thirty years who had already buried his first wife — she died of a brain tumor — and had since been handed two of his own diagnoses: chronic lymphocytic leukemia and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. What he was looking for was not a treatment. It was a reason to keep going. He had read Viktor Frankl, and he had decided he needed a purpose so large he'd be willing to die trying to reach it. That purpose became 187 miles of cold water. Twenty-two days later he became the first active cancer patient to swim the length of the Willamette. And when the blood work came back, the leukemia his doctors had been tracking was, to their astonishment, undetectable. Dean has spent the years since being careful about what that does and doesn't mean — he is a story of one, not a protocol, and he says so firmly. But in this conversation he and Dr. Nasha go underneath the miracle-story version to the parts that actually changed him: the 40-degree water that put him into a meditative state where his grief could finally move; the ancient, almost forgotten intuition that nature itself is a healing agent; the way a body given radically different conditions began to do something no one prescribed. This is a conversation about purpose as physiology, about cold as a doorway rather than a dare, about nature as the nurturer, and about what a therapist learns when he becomes his own hardest client. It's about grief that needed somewhere to go, a river that offered itself, and the quiet, unsettling possibility that the terrain we live inside — its temperature, its wildness, its meaning — is doing more of the healing than we've ever given it credit for. For anyone who has been told the trajectory of their illness is already written, and suspected their body might still have a say. Tend the Terrain™ is proudly supported by DHA Laboratories, my exclusive lab partner and the testing pillar of everything we do here. Test, Assess, Address, Don't Guess™ only holds up if the testing behind it does — and DHA keeps it all under one roof: family-owned, CLIA-licensed, with standard tests as well as thousands of functional tests, and real people who actually pick up the phone. They've built special access and pricing just for my listeners. More From Dr. Nasha Winters

  4. Aug 19

    A Naturopathic Doctor’s Journey Into Quantum Biology with Dr. Catherine Clinton | Ep. 014

    Dr. Catherine Clinton was in her second year of naturopathic medical school when her own body came apart — two autoimmune conditions and Lyme disease, arriving at once. The medicine she was being trained to practice could name the pieces but couldn't reach the whole, and the long road back handed her a different map entirely. On it, the body wasn't a machine of separate parts to be managed, but a responsive, intelligent system in constant conversation with light, water, temperature, sound, and the unseen fields around it. That map has a name most people find intimidating — quantum biology — and Catherine has spent the years since making it something you can actually feel rather than something you have to understand. In this conversation, Dr. Nasha sits down with the woman whose gift is exactly that --approachability. They talk about why quantum biology should be second nature to naturopathic medicine and somehow isn't; about the body's relationship with the sun, the water within us, and the electromagnetic weather we live inside; and about her book, Optimize, which walks all of it back down to the ground of an ordinary day. They follow the thread out of the clinic and into a Kansas field, where this fall Catherine keynotes Gail Fuller and Lynnette Miller’s regenerative Field School under the banner “Optimize Life: Nurturing Our Symbiotic Landscape” — soil to cell to culture, the same physics all the way down. And they sit with the moment we’re in: MD Anderson studying biofields in cancer, Scientific American calling quantum the frontier of biology, the institutions that once filed this under woo now building around it. This is a conversation about what it means to watch a dismissed idea become legitimate without letting it get optimized straight past its soul. About a physician who got sick, went looking, and came back with the oldest news there is — that we don’t end at the barriers of our skin, and our power has always been in connection. Tend the Terrain™ is proudly supported by DHA Laboratories, my exclusive lab partner and the testing pillar of everything we do here. Test, Assess, Address, Don't Guess™ only holds up if the testing behind it does — and DHA keeps it all under one roof: family-owned, CLIA-licensed, with standard tests as well as thousands of functional tests, and real people who actually pick up the phone. They've built special access and pricing just for my listeners. More From Dr. Nasha Winters

  5. Aug 13

    The Snake in the Yard, the Snake on the Wall with Vanessa Morgan Ep. 013

    Vanessa Morgan is a colleague from my Durango years — fifty-four years in clinical practice, an acupuncturist, homeopath, and biological medicine practitioner trained on three continents, with more than ten thousand patients behind her.  She started at seventeen, living for nine months in the attic of a Mohawk herbalist on Vancouver Island, and she has spent a lifetime working in the corners of medicine the rest of medicine wasn’t looking at. But that’s not why I asked her on. I asked her because in early 2020, just before the injections rolled out, a three-and-a-half-foot bull snake walked into her casita in Taos — and she followed it.  What came out of two years of study has been a life raft for an enormous number of long-haulers, and a window into something the rest of medicine has been quietly using for forty years without remembering where it came from. Because the snake was never only in her yard. It’s on the wall of every doctor’s office in this country — the Rod of Asclepius, the Bowl of Hygieia at every pharmacy, the word “virus” itself coming straight from the Latin for venom. Captopril, the drug that launched the entire class of ACE inhibitors, is derived from pit viper venom. We have been using this medicine for decades. We just forgot what we were using. This conversation lives where two of our seasonal inquiries meet — rhythm over force, listening as instruction; and capacity, not compliance — and it moves through the loneliness of clear sight, the reluctant teacher who thought she was ready to retire, and what medicine forgot that the snake in her yard was asking her to remember. Bring your skepticism. Just bring it after you’ve actually listened. Tend the Terrain™ is proudly supported by DHA Laboratories, my exclusive lab partner and the testing pillar of everything we do here. Test, Assess, Address, Don't Guess™ only holds up if the testing behind it does — and DHA keeps it all under one roof: family-owned, CLIA-licensed, with standard tests as well as thousands of functional tests, and real people who actually pick up the phone. They've built special access and pricing just for my listeners. More From Dr. Nasha Winters

  6. Aug 6

    The Garden Was Never a Battlefield with Dr. Bruce Lipton | Ep. 012

    For as long as most of us have been alive, we’ve been told a story about who we are: accidents of chemistry, driven by selfish genes, thrown into a world that runs on survival of the fittest. Fight. Compete. Dominate. Win. It’s the story underneath our medicine, our economy, and the way we wage war on our own bodies when they frighten us. Cell biologist Dr. Bruce Lipton has spent fifty years quietly dismantling that story from inside the petri dish. In Beyond Darwin, he lays out the science for a different origin: we are not separate from Nature; we are of it — evolved to tend the Garden, not to conquer it. Genes don’t hold the pen. The environment does. And life, as his hero Lynn Margulis put it, “did not take over the globe by combat, but by networking.” In this conversation, Dr. Nasha sits down with the man whose work gave language to so much of what she has experienced and witnessed at the bedside. His influence arrived at a time when her own survival wasn’t promised — and it became part of the foundation of her turn from surviving to thriving, and of the way she has practiced, taught, and explored ever since. Here she finds him living his own theory in the most unflinching way possible: with a cancer diagnosis of his own. This is a conversation about cooperation as biology, chaos as chrysalis, and what it asks of a person to trade the story of the battlefield for the work of the gardener. More From Dr. Nasha Winters

  7. Jul 29

    The Part We Throw Away with James Barry | Ep. 011

    James Barry spent more than two decades as a private chef to the famous — Tom Cruise, George Clooney, Barbra Streisand — feeding people who could have anything they wanted. For years, he was a vegan. Then his young daughter nearly died of a rare bacterial infection, and the ground beneath everything he believed about food gave way. He came back not with a stricter diet, but with an older question we've been trained to look past: what happens when the most nourishing thing on the plate is the part we've been taught to throw out? In this conversation, James — founder of Pluck, an organ-based seasoning built from the parts most kitchens discard — sits down with Dr. Nasha to explore organ meats as concentrated life, the ideologies we quietly build our plates on, and why the things we're quickest to reject (in our food, in our grief, in ourselves) may be exactly what we most need to reclaim. This isn't a conversation about liver. It's about what we discard, why we discard it, and what it costs us to keep looking away. More From Dr. Nasha Winters

  8. Jul 22

    The Body Was Never Broken with Nathalie Niddam | Ep. 010

    We live in a culture that promises we can hack our way to health — more data, more inputs, more control. Nathalie Niddam has spent years inside that world and has become one of its most trusted voices, going deeper into peptides and bioregulators than almost anyone. But underneath the language of optimization sits a quieter idea: these molecules don’t override the body — they remind it. They hand back signals the body already knows how to use. In this conversation, Dr. Nasha and Nathalie sit in the tension between hacking and tending — between forcing a system and restoring the conditions it’s been missing. They talk about what the longevity movement gets right, where it quietly betrays people, and what it might mean to optimize for capacity instead of control. A conversation for anyone who’s ever wondered whether the goal is to do more to the body — or to finally listen to it. More From Dr. Nasha Winters

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Tend the Terrain with Dr. Nasha is a weekly podcast about the conditions that shape our lives, biological, emotional, relational, cultural, and ecological. The ground beneath our health. The rhythms that regulate us. The environments, internal and external, that determine whether life thrives or quietly begins to unravel. Hosted by Dr. Nasha Winters, a three-decade integrative oncology thought leader, two-time author, cancer thriver, and creator of the Metabolic Approach to Cancer® and Terrain Ten™ framework, this show invites scientists, farmers, clinicians, artists, and lived experience leaders into conversations that prioritize pattern recognition over protocols, meaning over metrics, and restoration over force. This is not a show about fixing what’s broken. It’s about understanding what supports life. If you’re curious about how timing, relationships, nervous systems, land, story, and self-trust shape human health and capacity, pull up a chair. New episodes weekly.

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