No Assigned Seats

Thomas Stirling

Every career has a moment where the path stops being obvious. The seat wasn't assigned, it was earned, built, or occasionally taken. No Assigned Seats is a conversation series hosted by Thomas Stirling, brand strategist, agency founder, and the guy brands call when the wheels are spinning but nothing's moving. Each episode, Tom sits down with marketing and business leaders to go beyond the résumé and into the decisions that actually shaped them: the pivots, the reinventions, the bets that paid off, and the ones that didn't. This isn't a tactics show. It's a show about leadership in motion, what it looks like when clarity is hard to find, change is constant, and the next move is never guaranteed. If you're building something, leading something, or figuring out what comes next, pull up a chair.

  1. Jul 10

    The Weight of Legacy: Staying Relevant As A Heritage Brand With Helena Verellen

    Former Second City CMO Helena Verellen joins Thomas Stirling to share hard-won lessons from a career spent stewarding some of the world's most iconic brands, from Sony and WWE to Sesame Workshop and Second City. Helena draws on over two decades of global marketing experience to make one thing clear: when it comes to heritage brands, the core never changes. What changes is how you tell the story. Whether she was bringing Shakira to new international markets or driving ticket sales at a 65-year-old comedy institution, Helena's north star remained the same — stay true to who you are. In this episode, Helena and Thomas dig into the real pressures CMOs face: short tenures, PE-backed boards demanding quarterly results, and the constant temptation to chase the next shiny object. Helena explains how she balanced brand awareness investments with performance marketing metrics, and why saying no to inauthenticity is one of the most important things a marketer can do. They also explore the role of AI in creative organizations, where Helena shares an early mistake that taught her exactly where AI belongs, and where it doesn't. The episode closes with Helena's optimistic vision for the future of marketing leadership and a sharp take on why "return on investment" might be the most overused phrase in the boardroom. Connect with Helena Verellen: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/helenaverellenWebsite: https://www.marketingsociety.com/helena-verellen If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.

  2. Jun 5

    When Community Is the Channel: How Knowing Your Audience Beats Bigger Budgets With Chanelle Leslie

    In this episode, host Thomas Stirling sits down with Chanelle Leslie, a senior marketing leader who has scaled brands across CPG, beauty, fitness, and subscription models, including Overtone, Ceremonia, and somatic fitness app, The Class. Chanelle shares her core belief that sustainable growth does not require louder marketing; instead, it stems from knowing your audience better than anyone else. The conversation explores how building a true community differs from simply managing an audience. Chanelle breaks down how community-led growth naturally drives high-converting word-of-mouth traffic, reduces acquisition costs, and even unlocks massive retail partnerships like Sephora. She emphasizes that authentic community is a long-term play built on values that resonate deeply with specific cultural or emotional niches. Chanelle also shares a powerful case study from her work at The Class. By shifting away from celebrity-focused hype ads to copy that addressed real user needs mined from exit surveys, her team cut acquisition costs in half over nine months, proving that community feedback is the ultimate foundation for creative strategy. Connect with Chanelle Leslie: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisischanelle/Website: http://taryntoomey.com/ or https://www.chanelleleslie.com/ If this conversation moved you, share it with someone who needs to pull up a chair. Subscribe so you never miss a seat at the table.

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Every career has a moment where the path stops being obvious. The seat wasn't assigned, it was earned, built, or occasionally taken. No Assigned Seats is a conversation series hosted by Thomas Stirling, brand strategist, agency founder, and the guy brands call when the wheels are spinning but nothing's moving. Each episode, Tom sits down with marketing and business leaders to go beyond the résumé and into the decisions that actually shaped them: the pivots, the reinventions, the bets that paid off, and the ones that didn't. This isn't a tactics show. It's a show about leadership in motion, what it looks like when clarity is hard to find, change is constant, and the next move is never guaranteed. If you're building something, leading something, or figuring out what comes next, pull up a chair.