The Clio Dialogues

Jennifer Robin Terry
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Hosted by historian Dr. Jennifer Robin Terry, 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐥𝐢𝐨 𝐃𝐢𝐚𝐥𝐨𝐠𝐮𝐞𝐬 is a history podcast dedicated to exploring how the past continues to shape the world we live in today. Through conversations with historians and other experts, the podcast highlights new historical research, fresh interpretations, and overlooked stories that deepen our understanding of contemporary life. 

  1. 6h ago

    Sanctuary: How an Ancient Idea Became a Modern Movement | Sergio González & Lloyd Barba | Sanctuary in America

    Historians Sergio M. González and Lloyd D. Barba join Jennifer Robin Terry on The Clio Dialogues to discuss their book, Sanctuary in America: How Activists Defied the Government and Defended Immigrants—And Why It Still Matters. They explore how an ancient tradition of sacred refuge became a modern movement challenging state power.  In 1982, congregations began opening their doors to Salvadorans and Guatemalans fleeing political violence, even as the U.S. government denied them asylum. Facing a stark choice between federal immigration law and a higher moral obligation, communities listened to refugee testimonios—firsthand accounts of state violence and persecution—transforming acts of hospitality into nationwide civil disobedience. González and Barba trace how activists drew on "usable sacred histories," from biblical cities of refuge to the Underground Railroad, and examine the movement's evolution into the secular realm of sanctuary cities and the 21st-century defense of undocumented long-term residents. In This Episode Sanctuary as a Challenge to State Power: How sanctuary functions as a physical place of safe harbor, a moral ethic, and a direct challenge to state immigration policies.The Dual Origins of the 1980s Sanctuary Movement: The parallel declarations of sanctuary on March 24, 1982, by Southside Presbyterian Church in Tucson, Arizona, and University Lutheran Chapel in Berkeley, California. "Usable Sacred Histories": How movement activists drew upon scripture, the Underground Railroad, and past resistance movements to legitimate their civil disobedience as a core American and religious duty. The Power of Testimonios: How personal accounts of horrific civil war violence served as "conversion experiences" and consciousness-raising for American Christians.The Political Context of the 1980s: How the Reagan administration categorized Central Americans as economic migrants rather than political refugees, thus denying them asylum despite U.S. foreign policy involvement in Central America. The 21st-Century "New Sanctuary Movement": The shift post-9/11 toward protecting undocumented immigrants who have built careers, families, and long-term roots in U.S. communities. Sanctuary Cities vs. Sacred Sanctuary: The emergence of secular sanctuary jurisdictions and how they differ from church-based physical refuge. Political Rhetoric and Misinformation: How modern political figures distort sanctuary policies to frame sanctuary jurisdictions as lawless or crime-ridden, and the use of political stunts like migrant transports.Featured Guests Sergio M. González is an Associate Professor of History at Marquette University. He is a historian of 20th-century U.S. immigration, labor, and religion. Lloyd D. Barba is an Associate Professor of Latinx and Latin American Studies, and Religion at Amherst College. He is a historian of religion in the Americas with training in Latinx history; American race, ethnicity, and immigration; and the American West/Mexico borderlands.  Together, they hosted the seven-episode podcast series, 𝘚𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘳𝘺: 𝘖𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘉𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘉𝘦𝘵𝘸𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘊𝘩𝘶𝘳𝘤𝘩 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘚𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦. Buy the Book Lloyd D. Barba and Sergio M. González, Sanctuary in America: How Activists Defied the Government and Defended Immigrants—And Why It Still Matters Bookshop.org     Amazon BONUS: Use my Bookshop.org links to buy the book and you get instant literary cred, while the author, this podcast, and local indie bookshops get actual financial support. It’s the closest thing to ethically justified shopping you’ll do all week. *************** If you enjoyed this episode… Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Instagram, Facebook, or Bluesky Leave a review here. Reviews and shares make a real difference in helping thoughtful conversations about history reach new audiences.  **History runs on curiosity…and occasionally, caffeine.** The Clio Dialogues is independently produced. If you'd like to help support future episodes, consider buying me a coffee. Every cup helps keep new conversations coming. *************** Affiliate Disclosure Some links in The Clio Dialogues show notes are affiliate links. As a Bookshop.org Affiliate and Amazon Associate, I may earn a small commission on qualifying purchases at no additional cost to you. Those commissions help offset the costs of producing The Clio Dialogues, allowing me to continue bringing historical scholarship to a wider audience. Thank you for your support.   Editorial Independence The Clio Dialogues supports productive, respectful, freedom of expression. My, or my guests opinions may deviate from each other or from yours --  and that's okay!  Books and products featured on this channel are selected because I believe they are relevant to the conversation and the knowledge is worth having.   Send us Fan Mail

    Sanctuary: How an Ancient Idea Became a Modern Movement | Sergio González & Lloyd Barba | Sanctuary in America

  2. Sep 29

    American Made, Hollywood Spin: A Wider Angle on the American Working Class | Aimee Loiselle | Beyond Norma Rae

    One of Hollywood’s most enduring symbols of worker activism came about when actress Sally Field stood alone on a factory table, handwritten "UNION" sign held high above her head.  That table moment really happened. But as labor historian Dr. Aimee Loiselle reveals, the true story behind the 1979 Academy Award film Norma Rae was a multi-racial, collective movement—not a lone white hero's crusade.  In this episode of The Clio Dialogues history podcast, host Jennifer Robin Terry speaks with Aimee Loiselle, author of Beyond Norma Rae: How Puerto Rican and Southern White Women Fought for a Place in the American Working Class. Together, they look past Hollywood’s cinematic edits to uncover the vital role of Black textile workers, Puerto Rican garment workers, and "pushy" women organizers whose work reframes who truly built the American labor movement.  Their conversation spans the line between Hollywood mythmaking and historical reality: how studio executives traded collective history for romantic tension, how Puerto Rico’s colonial status shaped garment sweatshops, how employers weaponize immigration status against unionizing, and why pop culture dictates who gets recognized as part of the American working class today.  In this episode The Real Crystal Lee Sutton: Separating historical facts from Hollywood’s creative business decisions. Myth of the Lone Hero: Why film producers erased Black textile workers and years of pre-existing union organizing. The Famous Table Scene: What actually happened the night Crystal Lee Sutton (the real Norma Rae) held up her union sign. Colonial Sweatshops & Textile Mills: How U.S. expansion into Puerto Rico created a parallel, segregated labor market. Union Activist Gloria Maldonado: The "pushy and loudmouth" organizer who challenged both factory bosses and media narratives. Immigration as Union Busting: How employers use legal status and deportation threats to suppress workplace organizing. From Norma Rae to Bad Bunny: Culture, citizenship, and who gets perceived as a "real" American. Hard Hats & Nostalgia: Why pop culture’s narrow image of the working class impacts modern policy and politics. Featured Guest Dr. Aimee Loiselle is Associate Professor and the Stuart and Joyce Robbins Distinguished Chair of History at West Virginia University. Her research sits at the intersection of labor history, gender, race, and popular culture. In 2023, she won the Peter C. Rollins Book Prize for Beyond Norma Rae.  Buy the Book Aimee Loiselle, Beyond Norma Rae: How Puerto Rican and Southern White Women Fought for a Place in the American Working Class Bookshop.org                              Amazon BONUS: Use my Bookshop.org links to buy the book and you get instant literary cred, while the author, this podcast, and local indie bookshops get actual financial support. It’s the closest thing to ethically justified shopping you’ll do all week! *************** If you enjoyed this episode… Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Instagram, Facebook, or Bluesky Leave a review here. Reviews and shares make a real difference in helping thoughtful conversations about history reach new audiences.   **History runs on curiosity…and occasionally, caffeine.** The Clio Dialogues is independently produced. If you'd like to help support future episodes, consider buying me a coffee. Every cup helps keep new conversations coming. *************** Affiliate Disclosure Some links in The Clio Dialogues show notes are affiliate links. As a Bookshop.org Affiliate and Amazon Associate, I may earn a small commission on qualifying purchases at no additional cost to you. Those commissions help offset the costs of producing The Clio Dialogues, allowing me to continue bringing historical scholarship to a wider audience. Thank you for your support. Editorial Independence The Clio Dialogues supports productive, respectful, freedom of expression. My, or my guests opinions may deviate from each other or from yours' --  and that's okay!  Books and products featured on this channel are selected because I believe they are relevant to the conversation and the knowledge is worth having.     Send us Fan Mail

    American Made, Hollywood Spin: A Wider Angle on the American Working Class | Aimee Loiselle | Beyond Norma Rae

  3. Sep 22

    Beyond the Frontier Myth: The Complicated West | Megan Kate Nelson | The Westerners

    Historian Megan Kate Nelson joins Jennifer Robin Terry to discuss The Westerners: Mythmaking and Belonging on the American Frontier and how the complicated lives of the people who inhabited the American West challenge one of the nation’s most enduring myths. The popular story of the American West is deceptively simple: white settlers in wagons moving steadily toward the Pacific. The historical reality, however, was a vast network of competing ambitions, shared spaces, and multi-directional journeys.  Drawing from her multi-perspective history, Nelson replaces the tidy, one-way (east to west) highway of Manifest Destiny with a map of crisscrossing journeys—showing people moving north, south, east, and west across open borders and changing empires. White American pioneers share the stage with Indigenous, Mexican, Chinese, Canadian immigrant, and Black Westerners.  Jennifer and Megan talk about why the frontier myth has been so hard to dislodge, what popular culture has done to keep it alive, and why a more inclusive history doesn't mean simply swapping one set of uncomplicated heroes for another. They also consider something history sometimes loses amid wars, politics, conquest, and injustice: that most people spend most of their lives simply living them. Ultimately, The Westerners asks us to think about more than who has been left out of the traditional story of the West. It asks - what is at stake when some people are left out of the national story altogether. In this episode: What the frontier myth is and why it endures as one of America's most durable storiesWhy “Westerner” tells us something that “pioneer” cannotMigration patterns that look more like a spiderweb than a straight lineSeven lives that complicate familiar categories of who built the WestWhy ordinary lives deserve to be rememberedWhat gets lost when complicated history is simplifiedWho gets to belong in the American storyFeatured Guest Megan Kate Nelson is a historian and award-winning author whose work explores the American West, the Civil War, and the ways Americans construct and remember the past. She is the author of several books, including The Three-Cornered War, a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize in History, Saving Yellowstone, and The Westerners: Mythmaking and Belonging on the American Frontier. Known for bringing rigorous scholarship together with immersive storytelling, Nelson writes about the complicated people and contested landscapes that have shaped American history. Buy the Book Megan Kate Nelson, The Westerners: Mythmaking and Belonging on the American Frontier Bookshop.org       Amazon  Also mentioned:  Megan Kate Nelson, The Three-Cornered War: The Union, the Confederacy, and Native Peoples in the Fight for the West Bookshop.org Amazon BONUS: BONUS: Use my Bookshop.org links to buy the book and you get instant literary cred, while the author, this podcast, and local indie bookshops get actual financial support. It’s the closest thing to ethically justified shopping you’ll do all week. *************** If you enjoyed this episode… Follow on Instagram: @cliodialogues Follow on Facebook: The Clio Dialogues Follow on Bluesky: @cliodialogues.bsky.social Leave a review here or at: https://www.cliodialogues.com/reviews/new/ Reviews and shares make a real difference in helping thoughtful conversations about history reach new audiences.   **History runs on curiosity…and occasionally, caffeine.** The Clio Dialogues is independently produced. If you'd like to help support future episodes, consider buying me a coffee. Every cup helps keep new conversations coming. *************** Affiliate Disclosure Some links in The Clio Dialogues show notes are affiliate links. As a Bookshop.org Affiliate and Amazon Associate, I may earn a small commission on qualifying purchases at no additional cost to you. Those commissions help offset the costs of producing The Clio Dialogues, allowing me to continue bringing historical scholarship to a wider audience. Thank you for your support.   Editorial Independence The Clio Dialogues supports productive, respectful, freedom of expression. My, or my guests opinions may deviate from each other or from yours' --  and that's okay!  Books and products featured on this channel are selected because I believe they are relevant to the conversation and the knowledge is worth having.   Send us Fan Mail

    Beyond the Frontier Myth: The Complicated West | Megan Kate Nelson | The Westerners

  4. Sep 15

    Coffeehouse Confessions: Love, Sex, and Advice in 1690s London | Mary Beth Norton | I Humbly Beg Your Speedy Answer

    Acclaimed historian Mary Beth Norton joins host Jennifer Robin Terry to discuss her book, I Humbly Beg Your Speedy Answer: Letters on Love & Marriage from the World's First Personal Advice Column, and the surprisingly modern history of relationship advice, courtship, heartbreak, and ghosting. In 1691, London printer John Dunton launched the Athenian Mercury—a broadsheet originally intended as a 17th-century version of "Google" or "Wikipedia" for coffeehouse patrons. But before long, readers began submitting intimate questions Dunton never anticipated. What started as a general Q&A project rapidly evolved into the world's first personal advice column. In this conversation, Norton reveals how women broke into a conversation meant for male coffeehouse patrons, how anonymous readers sought counsel on scandal and heartbreak, and why marriage in the 1690s was far more ambiguous than we imagine. In this episode: The "Google" of the 17th Century: How a broadsheet for coffeehouse intellectuals shifted into a legendary advice project.Women Enter the Conversation: How female readers claimed space in a male-dominated publication. Slighting & Ghosting: Why romantic rejection in the 1690s mirrors has in commion with modern dating. "Fungible" Marriages: The chaotic era before 1753 when people weren't sure if they were legally wed. Confessions to Strangers: Why advice-seekers prefer the counsel of an anonymous expert over friends and family. About the Guest Dr. Mary Beth Norton is a distinguished historian of early American history and a pioneer in the field of women's history. In 1971, she became the first woman hired in Cornell University's History Department, where she taught for nearly five decades. Throughout her career, she has been a leading champion and trailblazer for women's history, serving as president of both the American Historical Association and the Berkshire Conference of Women Historians. Her landmark publications include Liberty's Daughters—a foundational text in colonial women's history—Founding Mothers & Fathers, In the Devil's Snare, and 1774: The Long Year of Revolution. In I Humbly Beg Your Speedy Answer, Norton translates 17th-century letters and answers from the Athenian Mercury into accessible prose for modern readers.  Buy the Book Mary Beth Norton, I Humbly Beg Your Speedy Answer: Letters on Love & Marriage from the World's First Personal Advice Column (Princeton University Press). Bookshop.org Amazon Also mentioned: Mary Beth Norton, Liberty's Daughters: The Revolutionary Experience of American Women, 1750-1800  Bookshop.org Amazon BONUS: Use my Bookshop.org links above to buy the book and you get instant literary cred, while the author, this podcast, and local indie bookshops get actual financial support. It’s the closest thing to ethically justified shopping you’ll do all week. Read Clio’s Book Reviews *************** If you enjoyed this episode… Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClioDialogues Follow on Instagram: @cliodialogues Follow on Facebook: The Clio Dialogues Follow on Bluesky: @cliodialogues.bsky.social Leave a review here or at: https://www.cliodialogues.com/reviews/new/ Reviews and shares make a real difference in helping thoughtful conversations about history reach new audiences.   **History runs on curiosity…and occasionally, caffeine.** The Clio Dialogues is independently produced. If you'd like to help support future episodes, consider buying me a coffee. Every cup helps keep new conversations coming. *************** Affiliate Disclosure Some links in The Clio Dialogues show notes are affiliate links. As a Bookshop.org Affiliate and Amazon Associate, I may earn a small commission on qualifying purchases at no additional cost to you. Those commissions help offset the costs of producing The Clio Dialogues, allowing me to continue bringing historical scholarship to a wider audience. Thank you for your support.   Editorial Independence The Clio Dialogues supports productive, respectful, freedom of expression.  My opinions are entirely my own, not influenced by affiliates or guests.  My guests’ opinions are entirely their own and may deviate from mine or yours ~ and that’s okay. :-) Books and products featured on this channel are selected because I believe they are relevant to the conversation and the knowledge is worth having.  I will not recommend products I do not believe in. Send us Fan Mail

    Coffeehouse Confessions: Love, Sex, and Advice in 1690s London | Mary Beth Norton | I Humbly Beg Your Speedy Answer

  5. Sep 8

    Democracy Undone: The Story of an American Reporter in Nazi Germany | Pamela Toler | The Dragon from Chicago

    Description What does the rise of authoritarianism look like while it is happening in real time? Historian Pamela Toler, author of The Dragon from Chicago: The Untold Story of an American Reporter in Nazi Germany, joins The Clio Dialogues to tell the remarkable story of Sigrid Schultz, the Chicago Tribune’s Berlin bureau chief who reported on the fall of the Weimar Republic and the rise of Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany. Toler and host Jennifer Robin Terry discuss how economic and political instability contributed to the collapse of German democracy, what Schultz recognized about Hitler and the Nazi movement before they came to power, and why warnings that appear unmistakable in hindsight can be much harder to recognize in real time. They also explore Schultz’s extraordinary relationship with Hermann Göring. At its heart, The Dragon from Chicago is the story of a pioneering woman foreign correspondent, as well as that of journalism under authoritarianism, the fragility of democracy, and the importance of a free and engaged press. In this episode Sigrid Schultz and the Chicago Tribunethe Weimar Republic and the rise of NazismSchultz’s 1931 interview with Adolf Hitler the collapse of German democracyHermann Göring and “The Dragon from Chicago”the Reichstag fireNazi censorship and surveillancefreedom of the press under authoritarianismforeign correspondents in Nazi Germanyjournalism, democracy, and recognizing authoritarian warning signsFeatured Guest Pamela D. Toler is the author of ten works of historical non-fiction, for both adults and children, including, most recently, The Dragon From Chicago: The Untold Story of An American Reporter in Nazi Germany. Toler holds a Ph.D. in history from the University of Chicago. You can find out more about her books and her ideas about history, writing, and writing about history at www.pameladtoler.com. Buy the Book The Dragon From Chicago: The Untold Story of An American Reporter in Nazi Germany Bookshop.org  Amazon BONUS: If you order through my Bookshop.org link ~ not only will you get a fascinating book, but you'll also be supporting the author, this podcast, and local independent bookstores. A win for all!  *************** If you enjoyed this episode… Hit that Follow buttonRead Clio’s Book Reviews Follow on Instagram: @cliodialoguesFollow on Facebook: The Clio DialoguesFollow on Bluesky: @cliodialogues.bsky.socialLeave a review here or on The Clio Dialogues website **Reviews and shares make a real difference in helping thoughtful conversations about history reach new audiences. ***************  **History runs on curiosity…and occasionally, caffeine.** The Clio Dialogues is independently produced. If you'd like to help support future episodes, consider buying me a coffee. Every cup helps keep new conversations coming. *************** Affiliate Disclosure Some links in The Clio Dialogues show notes are affiliate links. As a Bookshop.org Affiliate and Amazon Associate, I may earn a small commission on qualifying purchases at no additional cost to you. Those commissions help offset the costs of producing The Clio Dialogues, allowing me to continue bringing historical scholarship to a wider audience. Thank you for your support.  Editorial Independence The Clio Dialogues supports productive, respectful, freedom of expression.  My opinions are entirely my own, not influenced by affiliates or guests.  My guests’ opinions are entirely their own and may deviate from mine or yours ~ and that’s okay. :-) Books and products featured on this channel are selected because I believe they are relevant to the conversation and the knowledge is worth having.  I will not recommend products I do not believe in. Send us Fan Mail

    Democracy Undone: The Story of an American Reporter in Nazi Germany | Pamela Toler | The Dragon from Chicago

  6. Aug 25

    Never Say Inevitable: Rethinking the Road to 1776 | Peter C. Mancall | Contested Continent

    History only looks inevitable because we already know the ending. As the United States celebrates its 250th anniversary, it is easy to look backward and see a straight road to 1776. In Contested Continent, historian Peter C. Mancall shows just how uncertain that road actually was. He joins Jennifer Robin Terry to explore a North America shaped by competing peoples, incompatible ambitions, and consequential choices. The result is a different, more comprehensive origin story, one that recovers the possibilities obscured when we read the past backward. In This Episode How hindsight can distort our understanding of history Why the origins of the United States cannot be reduced to the history of the thirteen British colonies How traditional U.S. history surveys race through centuries of Indigenous and colonial history to reach 1776 Why Europeans were only part of an enormous ensemble cast shaping North America How Indigenous peoples determined whether many European expeditions and settlements survived or failed Why Jamestown's survival was itself an unlikely historical outcome How colonial self-government and enslavement developed alongside one another in Virginia Opechancanough’s backstory How the 1622 Powhatan uprising and English retaliation marked an escalation in colonial violence Why 1619 matters, but does not by itself explain the development of racial slavery in English America How economic and political decisions transformed English attitudes toward slavery over the seventeenth century King Philip's War, Bacon's Rebellion, and the Pueblo Revolt as reminders of how precarious colonial power remained The origins of an extractive approach to the natural world Indigenous resistance and a broader history of religious freedom Why contingency, agency, and individual choices matter to understanding history About the Guest Peter C. Mancall is Distinguished Professor; Andrew W. Mellon Professor of the Humanities; Professor of History, Anthropology, and Economics at the University of Southern California; and the Linda and Harlan Martens Director of the USC-Huntington Early Modern Studies Institute. His scholarship focuses on early America and the peoples, environments, and encounters that shaped North America before the creation of the United States.  Buy the Book: Contested Continent: The Struggle for North America, c. 1000–1680  Bookshop.org or Amazon  Also mentioned: Edmund Morgan, American Slavery, American Freedom Bookshop.org or Amazon  Alfred W. Crosby, Jr., The Columbian Exchange: Biological and Cultural Consequences of 1492 Bookshop.org or Amazon  James Horn, A Brave and Cunning Prince: The Great Chief Opechancanough and the War for America Bookshop.org or Amazon  If you enjoyed this episode… Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Instagram , Facebook , or Bluesky Watch, Listen, Review, and stay up to date: www.cliodialogues.com Reviews and shares make a real difference in helping thoughtful conversations about history reach new audiences.   **History runs on curiosity…and occasionally, caffeine.** The Clio Dialogues is independently produced. If you'd like to help support future episodes, consider buying me a coffee. Every cup helps keep new conversations coming.   *************** Affiliate Disclosure Some links in The Clio Dialogues show notes are affiliate links. As a Bookshop.org Affiliate and Amazon Associate, I may earn a small commission on qualifying purchases at no additional cost to you. Those commissions help offset the costs of producing The Clio Dialogues, allowing me to continue bringing historical scholarship to a wider audience. Thank you for your support. BONUS: If you order through my Bookshop.org link ~ not only will you get fascinating books, but you'll also be supporting the author, this podcast, and local independent bookstores. A win for all! Editorial Independence The Clio Dialogues supports productive, respectful, freedom of expression.  My opinions are entirely my own and are never influenced by affiliate or guest relationships.  My guests’ opinions are entirely their own and may deviate from mine or yours, and that’s okay.  Books and products featured on this channel are selected because I believe they are relevant to the conversation and the knowledge is worth having.  I will not recommend products I do not believe in. Send us Fan Mail

    Never Say Inevitable: Rethinking the Road to 1776 | Peter C. Mancall | Contested Continent

  7. Aug 18

    Hair Apparent: How Americans Learned to Read Race, Gender & Power in Hair | Sarah Gold McBride | Whiskerology

    Today, our hair is often a means of self-expression. But what if you had no control over what your hair expressed? And I’m not just talking about a bad hair day! In nineteenth-century America, hair conveyed something very different than what it does today.  In this episode of The Clio Dialogues, I am joined by my friend and former classmate (Go Bears!), historian Dr. Sarah Gold McBride to discuss the surprising American cultural history of hair. She explains that by taking seriously something so ordinary as hair, we can learn much about nineteenth-century ideas about race, gender, nationhood, and belonging. In This Episode Why beards surged in popularity in the mid-nineteenth centuryWhat facial hair had to do with masculinity, citizenship, and political powerHow racial pseudoscience transformed the beard into a symbol of white male authorityHow Frederick Douglass used his photographed image as a challenge to racist ideas about Black bodiesHow nineteenth-century Americans attempted to “read” bodiesBearded women, P. T. Barnum, and anti-cross-dressing lawsWhy hair meant something fundamentally different to nineteenth-century Americans than it does to us todayAbout the Guest Dr. Sarah Gold McBride is the author of Whiskerology: The Culture of Hair in Nineteenth-Century America, and a historian and award-winning Lecturer in the American Studies program at the University of California, Berkeley, where her research and teaching focus on the daily lives of ordinary people in the nineteenth-century United States, and the information and objects they found meaningful as they tried to understand race, gender, and national identity.  Buy the Book  Whiskerology: The Culture of Hair in Nineteenth-Century America Bookshop.org   or Amazon Pre-order the Paperback (available November 17, 2026) If you enjoyed this episode… Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Instagram Follow on Facebook Watch, Listen, Review, and stay up to date: www.cliodialogues.com Reviews and shares make a real difference in helping thoughtful conversations about history reach new audiences.   **History runs on curiosity…and occasionally, caffeine.** The Clio Dialogues is independently produced. If you'd like to help support future episodes, consider buying me a coffee. Every cup helps keep new conversations coming.   *************** Affiliate Disclosure Some links in The Clio Dialogues show notes are affiliate links. As a Bookshop.org Affiliate and Amazon Associate, I may earn a small commission on qualifying purchases at no additional cost to you. Those commissions help offset the costs of producing The Clio Dialogues, allowing me to continue bringing historical scholarship to a wider audience. Thank you for your support. BONUS: If you order through my Bookshop.org link ~ not only will you get fascinating books, but you'll also be supporting the author, this podcast, and local independent bookstores. A win for all!   Editorial Independence The Clio Dialogues supports productive, respectful, freedom of expression.  My opinions are entirely my own and are never influenced by affiliate or guest relationships.  My guests’ opinions are entirely their own and may deviate from mine or yours, and that’s okay.  Books and products featured on this channel are selected because I believe they are relevant to the conversation and the knowledge is worth having.  I will not recommend products I do not believe in. Send us Fan Mail

    Hair Apparent: How Americans Learned to Read Race, Gender & Power in Hair | Sarah Gold McBride | Whiskerology

  8. Aug 6

    Why We Drink: The Surprising History of Modern Drinking Culture | Lisa Jacobson | Intoxicating Pleasures

    Description Wine with dinner. A beer after work. A whiskey to seal the deal. These rituals feel timeless, but they are far more recent than most Americans realize. In this episode of The Clio Dialogues, historian Lisa Jacobson explains how the repeal of Prohibition did not automatically restore alcohol's place in American life. Instead, breweries, wineries, distillers, advertisers, cookbook authors, physicians, government officials, and even Hollywood spent decades reshaping public attitudes toward drinking and creating the modern ideal of the "responsible drinker." In this episode The stigmas attached to wine, beer, and whiskey after Prohibition How advertisers launched massive "consumer re-education" campaigns Why moderation became the new ideal of drinking How World War II transformed America's drinking culture Cookbooks, rationing, and teaching Americans to cook with wine The campaign for the "right to pleasure" and the "right to decent whiskey" What Hollywood films reveal about Featured Guest Lisa Jacobson is Professor of History at the University of California, Santa Barbara.  Buy the Book Intoxicating Pleasures: The Reinvention of Wine, Beer, and Whiskey after Prohibition Bookshop.org               Amazon   *************** If you enjoyed this episode… consider following or subscribing to The Clio Dialogues wherever you listen or watch. Reviews and shares make a real difference in helping thoughtful conversations about history reach new audiences. You can also join the conversation on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, or Bluesky. **History runs on curiosity…and occasionally, caffeine.** The Clio Dialogues is independently produced. If you'd like to help support future episodes, consider buying me a coffee. Every cup helps keep new conversations coming. *************** Affiliate Disclosure Some links in The Clio Dialogues show notes are affiliate links. As a Bookshop.org Affiliate and Amazon Associate, I may earn a small commission on qualifying purchases at no additional cost to you. Those commissions help offset the costs of producing The Clio Dialogues, allowing me to continue bringing historical scholarship to a wider audience. Thank you for your support. BONUS: If you order through my Bookshop.org link ~ not only will you get fascinating books, but you'll also be supporting the author, this podcast, and local independent bookstores. A win for all! Editorial Independence The Clio Dialogues supports productive, respectful, freedom of expression.  My opinions are entirely my own and are never influenced by affiliate or guest relationships. My guests’ opinions are entirely their own and may deviate from mine or yours, and that’s okay. Books and products featured on this channel are selected because I believe they are relevant to the conversation and that the knowledge is worth having. I will not recommend products I do not believe in. Send us Fan Mail

    Why We Drink: The Surprising History of Modern Drinking Culture | Lisa Jacobson | Intoxicating Pleasures
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Hosted by historian Dr. Jennifer Robin Terry, 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐥𝐢𝐨 𝐃𝐢𝐚𝐥𝐨𝐠𝐮𝐞𝐬 is a history podcast dedicated to exploring how the past continues to shape the world we live in today. Through conversations with historians and other experts, the podcast highlights new historical research, fresh interpretations, and overlooked stories that deepen our understanding of contemporary life. 

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    Jennifer Robin Terry
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    2026
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