We were preteens, sitting in a junior high classroom in Missouri, when a student aide walked in with a note and our teacher's face went white. Twenty five years later we can still tell you exactly where we were standing. On this episode of Carpool Confessions, Kate Shaw and Kelley Marie mark the 25th anniversary of September 11 by talking about the part that does not get talked about: what it did to a generation of kids who watched people die on live television, on repeat, before anyone used the word trauma. We talk about the first responders who never got help, why so many men and police officers still will not ask for it, and the difference between PTSD and CPTSD. We talk honestly about the prejudice that landed on Muslim Americans afterward and how fear gets used to make an out group. And we talk about the thing we come back to every week: you cannot heal alone, no matter how many breathing exercises you do. WHO THIS EPISODE IS FOR This one is for the millennial women who were kids in 2001 and are only now naming what that day did to them. For the moms explaining 9/11 to children who were not alive for it. For anyone carrying trauma of any size, from a national tragedy to a divorce to a loss nobody else saw, who has been getting by on "I'm fine." If you are a Christian woman working through trauma and tired of being told to just think better thoughts, we made this for you. WHAT WE COVER - Where we both were on September 11, 2001, in seventh grade - Why our kids know almost nothing about it - Watching the towers hit on every channel, on repeat, as children - The unity that came after and why it did not last - First responders, survivor's guilt, and what trauma does to your sense of safety - Why men and police officers so often refuse help - The difference between PTSD and CPTSD, explained simply - Flying before and after 9/11, and the fear that never left - The prejudice Muslim Americans faced, and how fear creates an out group - The people still dying from 9/11 today - Why "I'm fine" is not the same thing as healing - Elijah in 1 Kings 19, and a God who says take a nap and eat a snack SCRIPTURE 1 Kings 19. After the greatest victory of his life, Elijah collapses and asks God to take him. God does not lecture him. God feeds him and lets him sleep. REMEMBERING 2,977 people were killed on September 11, 2001. Twenty five years on, the remains of roughly 40 percent of the World Trade Center victims have still not been identified, and the work of identifying them continues to this day. We remember every person lost, everyone who ran toward the towers, and every family still waiting for answers. A GENTLE HEADS UP This episode includes detailed discussion of September 11, including deaths, first responder trauma, and suicide. Please take care of yourself while you listen. TELL US YOUR STORY If you have a 9/11 story you would like to share, we want to hear it. Leave it in the comments or email us at carpoolconfessionspodcast@gmail.com. We are building the Carpool community, and we would like it to be there for you. Support the show Love the show? You can help keep us on the road here. ๐ค ๐ New episodes every Monday at 7AM! Watch on YouTube and listen on all major streaming platforms. Subscribe to @CarpoolConfessionsPodcast and come ride with us. ๐๏ธ Follow us on TikTok: @CarpoolConfessionsPod ๐ Want to submit a confession, burden, struggle, or story for a future monthly episode? Share it anonymously here: https://forms.gle/XQ24bChBwdATbNzz5 Thanks for riding with us. ๐ค #CarpoolConfessionsPodcast #ChristianPodcast #FaithAndMentalHealth