Different Worlds

Eliot

Different Worlds digs into the big ideas inside works of fiction — sci-fi novels, horror movies, Korean cinema, the Marvel universe, and more. Eliot, a recovering journalist, and rotating cast of guest hosts break down works like the Three Body Problem and Squid Game, looking at how they speak to our dystopian late-period capitalist smartphone-absorbed world. What do these stories mean for our own worldview — and do they even inspire real-world action? Spoiler warning: the show includes spoilers, and aims to get you excited enough to read or watch the spoilt work on your own.

Episodes

  1. Aug 20

    Ep. 3 - Christopher Nolan's Odyssey

    Eliot and Brad, longtime friends, talk about the point of the Odyssey, translations of the Odyssey, Christopher Nolan's Odyssey, and what is going through people's minds in IMAX theaters around the nation watching this monster of a film. 00:01:30  Welcoming Brad Gunson, writer of the Different Worlds theme, Odyssey fan, trombonist, composer, and co-host for the episode! 00:03:45  Appreciating Monoculture in its declining years 00:07:10  Brad describes reading the Odyssey in various translations, in the NICU and other venues 00:11:15  What was the point of the original Odyssey?   Bards performing for rich people 00:16:00  A review of Nolan’s Odyssey by two infrequent theater-goers;  recapping Nolan’s themes and greatest hits 00:22:00   How the book is different - focus on royal court, partying, “that life” - what it meant to listeners before the book was even written 00:24:20  Controversies of Nolan’s Odyssey - culture war and politics 00:28:00  Leaving Gods out of the movie, unpacking themes of the movie 00:31:00  Cerci, Sinon, and the performances of Samantha Morton and Elliott Page 00:36:05  The darkness of the Odyssey as it extends to Nolan’s overall catalogue.   What is the point of it?  Who UNDERSTANDS what the movie means when the lights come on at the end? 00:40:40  Enjoying a good doom movie as in SOME ways it feels like the world is ending.  Debating the evidence for an imminent apocalypse with Jehovah’s Witnesses IRL 00:49:20 “Are we the baddies??”   pre-ambling Emily Wilson’s critiques of Nolan’s Odyssey and shouting out Amy Goodman.    00:54:15  Emily Wilson’s “Tell me about a complicated man” and Brad’s criticism of the Cyclops leaving-the-cave scene 00:59:45   Sailor Brad talks sailing and the Odyssey and hobbies of antiquity, like jazz music 01:06:15   Brad’s never completed Odyssey project, Stavvy, and the Baltimore musicXcomedy scene 01:10:30   Brad’s trolling of Eliot peaks 01:13:35  Redditors and NYT agree on the “Sea People” and moral code theme of Nolan’s Odyssey.  We ARE the Sea People, in a few decades of recent U.S. foreign policy 01:22:00  How do people across the political spectrum like the movie?  Is anyone in the middle enjoying this movie for non-political reasons?  Was the MAGA / whitewing backlash a marketing psyop?  Like Cracker Barrel?? 01:27:40  Moral decay in JD Vance’s defense of Richard Nixon, a Trojan Horse to spark moral decline.   The despair of losing a disappearing news monoculture of shared facts.

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Different Worlds digs into the big ideas inside works of fiction — sci-fi novels, horror movies, Korean cinema, the Marvel universe, and more. Eliot, a recovering journalist, and rotating cast of guest hosts break down works like the Three Body Problem and Squid Game, looking at how they speak to our dystopian late-period capitalist smartphone-absorbed world. What do these stories mean for our own worldview — and do they even inspire real-world action? Spoiler warning: the show includes spoilers, and aims to get you excited enough to read or watch the spoilt work on your own.