Full Disclosure the Podcast

Chris Estep & Andy Rodriguez
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Full Disclosure is an independent podcast dedicated to exposing the truth about pharmacy benefit management. Each episode breaks down how PBM operate, how plan Sponsors and brokers can protect themselves, and what fiduciary accountability actually looks like in practice. Topics cover includes spread Pricing, rebate transparency, CAA compliance, ERISA fiduciary obligation, and the litigation wave reshaping how employers manage pharmacy benefits. No fluff, No spin. Just the facts the industry tries to hide from you. Visit our website at www.fulldisclosurepodcast.org

Episodes

  1. 2d ago

    Spread Pricing

    Episode 2: The Truth About Spread Pricing with Brian Schram What exactly is spread pricing—and why has it become one of the most controversial topics in pharmacy benefits? In this episode of Full Disclosure, Chris Estep and Andy Rodriguez sit down with DisclosedRx Vice President of Sales Brian Schram, someone who has seen the industry from nearly every perspective imaginable: broker, employer, and now PBM executive. That unique journey gives Brian a front-row seat to how pharmacy pricing really works—and where employers often get left in the dark. Together, we break down the mechanics of spread pricing, why it's so difficult to identify, how it impacts employer health plans, and why increasing scrutiny from lawsuits, regulations, and employers themselves is bringing the issue into the spotlight. We also discuss what employers and brokers should be asking their PBMs if they want to understand where their pharmacy dollars are actually going. Whether you're a broker, consultant, employer, or simply trying to understand why prescription drug costs continue to rise, this episode offers a candid look at one of the most misunderstood—and costly—practices in healthcare. Topics Covered: • What spread pricing is and how it works • Why employers often don't know it's happening • The incentives driving pharmacy benefit costs • Recent lawsuits and industry scrutiny • CAA 2026 and the future of PBM transparency • Questions every employer should be asking their PBM • What brokers should look for when evaluating pharmacy contracts The more transparent the pricing, the harder it is to hide the spread. 🎙️ Full Disclosure with Chris Estep & Andy Rodriguez — Where Transparency Takes the Mic.

    34 min

  2. 2d ago

    The Founders

    Episode 1: Why DisclosedRx Exists with Co-Founder Zack Robinson In our debut episode, we sit down with one of the founders of DisclosedRx, Zack Robinson, to discuss the problem he saw in the pharmacy benefits industry and why he decided to build something different. We dive into the realities of spread pricing, rebate retention, hidden revenue streams, and the lack of visibility that many employers face when managing pharmacy benefits. Zack shares the story behind DisclosedRx, the principles that shaped the company, and why they chose a fiduciary-first approach built on transparency, 100% pass-through pricing, full rebate pass-through, and true NDC-11 claim visibility. Whether you're an employer, consultant, broker, or simply curious about how the PBM world really works, this episode provides an inside look at the challenges facing the industry and one company's attempt to change the status quo. Topics covered: • Why DisclosedRx was founded • What spread pricing really is • The rebate debate • Fiduciary responsibility in pharmacy benefits • NDC-11 transparency and why it matters • What employers should be asking their PBM Where Transparency Takes the Mic. 🎙️ This is Full Disclosure with Chris Estep and Andy Rodriguez.

    53 min
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Full Disclosure is an independent podcast dedicated to exposing the truth about pharmacy benefit management. Each episode breaks down how PBM operate, how plan Sponsors and brokers can protect themselves, and what fiduciary accountability actually looks like in practice. Topics cover includes spread Pricing, rebate transparency, CAA compliance, ERISA fiduciary obligation, and the litigation wave reshaping how employers manage pharmacy benefits. No fluff, No spin. Just the facts the industry tries to hide from you. Visit our website at www.fulldisclosurepodcast.org

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  • Creator
    Chris Estep & Andy Rodriguez
  • Years Active
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  • Episodes
    2
  • Rating
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    © 2026 Chris Estep & Andy Rodriguez