Sipping on Evidence

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Welcome to the podcast Sipping on Evidence, where we invite you to slowly take in the stories of your peers. It is a little bit like the difference between sipping water over time and gulping down a litre. So, grab a glass…In this podcast we are sharing stories about nutrition and dietetics professionals who are leading innovative work on transitions to sustainable dietary patterns in the face of systemic barriers, rapid change and uncertainty. We talk about impact, evidence, and what it takes to lead in this space.

Episodes

  1. May 24

    Influencing the food system in clinical settings - Part 2

    In this episode, we hear from dietitians who are influencing clinical nutrition ecosystems through collaborative innovation, research and a “give it a go” approach to trying out good ideas.  Key points we will explore include:  Why food gets wasted in hospitals and who needs to be involved.  Whether we should be avoiding plastics in health care, and why.  When the evidence is partial and imperfect, how to look for the overall pattern in what you see, and give your ideas a go.  How to combine values-based and evidence-based decision making.  Dr Amelia Harray is an Advanced Accredited Practicing Dietitian and a Senior Research Fellow at the University of Western Australia Medical School. She is a Senior Investigator and the Clinical Lead of the Plastic Exposure Reduction Transforms Health (PERTH) Trial, which is measuring changes in health outcomes as a result of reducing plastic chemical exposure through a dietary intervention. Amelia is also the founder and Director of the business Eat Sustainably, which, as the name implies, supports individuals and households to sift through the maze of nutrition misinformation and make practical dietary choices to improve their health and support the planet.  Check out Amelia’s research describing a tool that captures complete dietary exposure to plastics and establish a diet quality score to measure adherence to a low plastic dietary pattern: Harray A, Herrmann S, Papendorf H, Miller C, Vermeersch A, Smith T and Lucas M (2024) Plastics in human diets: development and evaluation of the 24-h Dietary Recall — Plastic Exposure and the Dietary Plastics Score. Front. Nutr. 11:1443792. doi: 10.3389/fnut.2024.1443792. Available Open Access: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/nutrition/articles/10.3389/fnut.2024.1443792/full

    21 min
  2. May 26

    Designing, supporting and using public policy for sustainable food systems - Part 2

    In this episode, we talk to dietitians who are using policy as a tool to facilitate increased uptake for healthy dietary patterns that support more sustainable food systems. We will explore shaping policy, utilizing policy, power, and empowerment, and examining evidence of impact.  Key points we will explore include:  The ways in which policy is integrated across scales, and how we can leverage that.  A process, or framework, that you can use to analyze and address problems using systems thinking—the I+PSE framework How collaboration and structural empowerment can disrupt current ways of thinking.  How to get started on policy work.  Danielle Proud is an accredited practicing dietitian from Australia whose diverse career includes nutrition care in private practice and institutional settings, policy development in public health nutrition, and health promotion in community settings. Danielle’s work is nimble, switching hats to leverage policy as a support or to step around barriers, integrating work across scales and sectors. Danielle has been reflecting on the power of policy to support, or not, healthy dietary patterns from sustainable food systems, and creatively using existing policy to affect change.   Check out Danielle’s work: Curriculum Connection: Food and Wellbeing.  https://www.australiancurriculum.edu.au/curriculum-information/understand-this-curriculum-connection/food-and-wellbeing#accordion-2ee045d3c9-item-e26f8bd983

    34 min
  3. May 27

    Designing, supporting and using public policy for sustainable food systems - Part 1

    In this episode, we talk to dietitians who are using policy as a tool to facilitate increased uptake for healthy dietary patterns that support more sustainable food systems. We will explore shaping policy, utilizing policy, power, and empowerment, and examining evidence of impact.  Key points we will explore include:  The ways in which policy is integrated across scales, and how we can leverage that.  A process, or framework, that you can use to analyze and address problems using systems thinking—the I+PSE framework How collaboration and structural empowerment can disrupt current ways of thinking.  How to get started on policy work. Guests:  Part 1: Angie Tagtow is a registered dietitian and nutritionist from the United States, whose career in public health spans decades and various scales. Angie has worked to increase the interconnectivity between agricultural, nutrition, and public health policies and to explicitly include sustainability-relevant evidence in food policy. Along the way, Angie has been a champion of educating dietitians and nutritionists on public policy and creating the advocacy structures and platforms to shape policy. Check out Angie’s work: The Individual plus Policy, System, and Environmental (I+PSE) Conceptual Framework for Action is a roadmap for RDNs across all areas of practice (eg, research, education, clinical, community, and management) to better address adaptive challenges and to formulate multidimensional strategies for optimal impact. Reference: Angela Tagtow, Dena Herman, Leslie Cunningham-Sabo. Next-Generation Solutions to Address Adaptive Challenges in Dietetics Practice: The I+PSE Conceptual Framework for Action. Journal of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics. Volume 122, Issue 1. 2022. Pages 15-24. ISSN 2212-2672. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jand.2021.01.018. (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212267221000654). If you do not have access to the journal, please check out the ICDA SFS Toolkit (https://internationaldietetics.org/sustainability/) resources section for a copy.

    38 min
  4. May 28

    Systems thinking as sustainable food systems pedagogy - Part 2

    In this episode, we  talk to innovative practitioners who are using systems thinking as a pedagogical tool in nutrition and dietetics education to help students understand the complexity of food, nutrition, health and the broader systems in which these interact. We will also explore their ideas about evidence of impact, specifically regarding how their activities help foster student learning and skill development related to the adoption, or uptake, of healthy dietary patterns that support more sustainable food systems.  Key points we will explore include:  Using systems thinking as a framework to help students become better problem solvers, to get at the root causes of challenges they will face in their future work.  Ideas for experiential ways to put systems thinking into practice so that students develop skills that can be scaled up to the broader community when they enter the workforce.  Sandy Murray, is a dietitian and a lecturer in food science and public health nutrition within the University of Tasmania(U-TAS), teaching in the Bachelor of Nutrition Science, a pathway degree to a Masters of Dietetics. With over 35 years of experience across public health and community nutrition, food industry, and higher education, Sandy brings expertise in participatory food governance research. She also serves on the leadership team of Dietitians Australia’s Food and Environment Interest Group. Like our first guest, she has been using a systems approach within her university setting, not only in her teaching but also through campus research projects such as the UTAS Healthy Sustainable and Equitable Food Strategic Plan. Often working “by stealth”, Sandy embeds sustainable food systems into her teaching and practice, finding strategic entry points even when not formally part of the curriculum. Sandy’s story provides insight into how educators can drive change within university campuses.   Check out Sandy’s work: Healthy, Sustainable, and Equitable Food Strategic Plan at University of Tasmania, which can be found at the following link.  https://www.utas.edu.au/about/sustainability/facilities-and-operations/food-and-gardens

    24 min
  5. May 29

    Systems thinking as sustainable food systems pedagogy - Part 1

    In this episode, we talk to innovative practitioners who are using systems thinking as a pedagogical tool in nutrition and dietetics education to help students understand the complexity of food, nutrition, health and the broader systems in which these interact. We will also explore their ideas about evidence of impact, specifically regarding how their activities help foster student learning and skill development related to the adoption, or uptake, of healthy dietary patterns that support more sustainable food systems.  Key points we will explore include:  Using systems thinking as a framework to help students become better problem solvers, to get at the root causes of challenges they will face in their future work.  Ideas for experiential ways to put systems thinking into practice so that students develop skills that can be scaled up to the broader community when they enter the workforce.  Guests:  Part 1: Erin Bergquist is a dietitian and Clinical Professor with Iowa State University’s Food Science and Human Nutrition Department, teaching in the Master of Professional Practice program. Erin was a member of the workgroup that developed the Standards of Professional Performance for Registered Dietitian Nutritionists in Sustainable, Resilient, and Healthy Food and Water Systems, and she also served as a co-lead in developing the dietetic internship concentration in Sustainable, Resilient, and Healthy Food and Water Systems. Her current research and teaching focus is sustainable food systems in the context of dietetics education.  It is fair to say that Erin has been, and continues to be, a solid champion in creating education and training opportunities in sustainable food systems, inspiring and fostering knowledge and skill development among nutrition students.  Check out Erin’s recent work: Bergquist, E., and Tagtow, A. (2025). Strategies for Systems Thinking and Sustainable Food Systems Integration in Dietetics Education. Available open access from the following link. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jand.2025.08.006

    23 min

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Welcome to the podcast Sipping on Evidence, where we invite you to slowly take in the stories of your peers. It is a little bit like the difference between sipping water over time and gulping down a litre. So, grab a glass…In this podcast we are sharing stories about nutrition and dietetics professionals who are leading innovative work on transitions to sustainable dietary patterns in the face of systemic barriers, rapid change and uncertainty. We talk about impact, evidence, and what it takes to lead in this space.