๐ Show Notes Anthropic just moved its own code off Git. So is GitKraken in trouble? Bas Steins and Michal Martinka talk with Chris Griffing, Developer Advocate at GitKraken, Twitch streamer, and serial side-project builder. Bas and Chris met at Commit Your Code in Dallas, where Chris gave a talk on MCP. The conversation goes from protocol details to industry economics. First up: is MCP dead? Chris says no. With the 2026-07-28 spec, MCP went stateless, so you can now scale servers like Lambdas or Cloudflare Workers instead of babysitting sticky sessions. He also argues that most MCP servers are bad because they just wrap someone's API. Good ones turn several API calls into a single task the agent can finish. We also cover how MCP compares to skills (hint: auth) and why WebMCP might be the easiest way for any web app to become agent-ready. Your browser session becomes the auth layer, and your client-side JavaScript becomes the tool list. Then it gets spicy. Chris doesn't buy the "SaaSpocalypse": a $50/month SaaS is not worth six hours of a $200k engineer plus tokens plus maintenance forever. Michal pushes back. Companies aren't rational, internal politics reward building new things, and someone once spent two hours arguing over a $1/month EC2 instance. We also ask whether AI is really behind the layoffs or just a convenient scapegoat for post-COVID cuts and offshoring, and why "human slop" was here long before AI slop. Finally, the elephant in the repo: Anthropic's Scion. Will the Git binary disappear while Git the protocol lives on? Do agents even need branches? Chris's answer: throwing away branches sounds great if you sell tokens, because the merge conflicts burn a lot of them. Plus Kepler, GitKraken's ADE built on ACP, why building your own harness against Claude is a losing game, and whether GitKraken will someday need a new name. Guest: Chris Griffing (cmgriffing everywhere) Hosts: Bas Steins and Michal Martinka โฑ๏ธ Topics Covered 00:00 Intro: Chris Griffing and Commit Your Code 00:22 Are MCP servers dead? 01:47 MCP vs. skills: why auth changes everything 02:40 GitKraken as the control plane for GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket, Jira and more 05:55 Commit Composer: cutting AI-sized commits into readable chunks 07:29 Stateless MCP: JWT-style scaling for agent servers 09:45 WebMCP: making web apps machine-readable for agents 12:11 Context rot is real, whatever the marketing says 14:08 Vercel's agent-browser and WebMCP in practice 17:22 The OpenAI WebMCP Challenge and Chris's side projects 20:10 The SaaSpocalypse myth and the math of build vs. buy 22:36 Mythical Man-Month, stakeholders, and why micro-SaaS exists 24:59 Is AI the scapegoat for layoffs? 26:26 Prompting plus testing: are developers becoming underpaid QA? 29:25 Human slop: localStorage as state management 32:28 Promotion-driven development and Killed by Google 34:03 Don't replace PeopleSoft, build a facade 36:14 Would you vibe-code your own Git GUI? 38:33 Kepler: GitKraken's agentic development environment (ADE) 40:04 ADEs: Conductor, T3 Code and the life after IDEs 42:39 ACP vs. MCP: the two halves of agent tooling 44:14 Anthropic's Scion and Git at agent scale 47:53 Jujutsu, Git compatibility, and Git as a protocol 50:20 Angular, Google's monorepo and $10K of CI per PR 56:25 Do agents need branches at all? Waiting for Git 2 59:25 From Axosoft to GitKraken: will the name survive? 01:00:16 GitLens for solo devs vs. GitKraken for teams 01:02:59 Where to find Chris ๐ Resources & Links Chris Griffing Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/cmgriffing X: https://x.com/cmgriffing GitHub: https://github.com/cmgriffing LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cmgriffing GitKraken Kepler: https://gitkraken.com/kepler GitKraken MCP Server: https://github.com/gitkraken/mcp/ GitLens for VS Code: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=eamodio.gitlens MCP and WebMCP MCP 2026-07-28 specification announcement: https://blog.modelcontextprotocol.io/posts/2026-07-28/ MCP specification: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/specification/2026-07-28/basic WebMCP spec draft: https://webmachinelearning.github.io/webmcp WebMCP on Chrome for Developers: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/ai/webmcp OpenAI WebMCP Challenge: https://openai.com/webmcp-challenge Agent Client Protocol (ACP): https://agentclientprotocol.com/get-started/introduction Agent tooling Vercel agent-browser: https://github.com/vercel-labs/agent-browser Conductor: https://www.conductor.build/docs/faq T3 Code: https://t3.codes/ Version control beyond Git Redesigning source control at Anthropic (Scion): https://www.anthropic.com/research/redesigning-source-control Cloudflare Artifacts: https://www.cloudflare.com/products/artifacts/ Jujutsu (jj): https://github.com/jj-vcs/jj Chris's side projects Giffium: https://github.com/cmgriffing Messijo: https://messijo.com/solutions/keyword-monitoring/ Shiki Magic Move: https://github.com/shikijs/shiki-magic-move Also mentioned Commit Your Code conference: https://www.commityourcode.com/2026/agenda Killed by Google: https://killedbygoogle.com/ complexity.fm with Bas Steins and Michal Martinka