Backstage Wisdom

Marco Hohner

The podcast for musicians searching for meaning, joy and flow – episodes in German and English. Backstage Wisdom dives deep into the inner world of musicians: the doubts, the longing for purpose, health and the beauty of growth. Marco Hohner – musician and coach – shares authentic conversations with artists and experts from around the world and explores what it truly means to live and create from a place of alignment, and what it takes to build a fulfilled musician’s life along the way. A space for honest reflection, inspiration, and the courage to walk your own path – both on and off stage.

Episodes

  1. 4d ago

    Your dream job is STILL a job — the reality of being a musician | Caro Kelley

    Caro Kelley is an American singer, pianist and songwriter living in Germany. She has built a career around performing, writing songs and teaching. She’s doing everything herself, marketing, designs, clothes, social media and still finds the time to listen to 1000 albums a year and performing more than 120 times a year. But life as a musician is not always as glamorous as it might seem. Behind the scenes, there's the grind of keeping a career going, the pressure to put yourself out there, and the challenge of finding your own path in an unpredictable industry. We talk about the reality of being a full-time musician, what it means to advocate for yourself when no one else will, and how to find happiness and fulfilment in a career that can be both deeply rewarding and extremely exhausting. Caro also shares a particularly challenging experience: a period of six months when she couldn't sing. We explore how losing your voice can affect not only your career, but also your sense of identity — and what it can teach you about yourself and your relationship with music. Because making a living from music is one thing. Building a career that feels meaningful and sustainable is another. We covered this and more: • The harsh reality of making a living as a musician • Why your dream job is still a job • The daily grind of being a full-time musician • The Pros and Cons of Social Media • What it means to be your own biggest advocate • Losing your voice for six months and dealing with the impact on your identity • Her experience with listening to 1000 albums a year • The difference between professional success and personal fulfillment • How to define success on your own terms • Finding happiness in a career that can be both rewarding and exhausting • Building a sustainable career without losing sight of why you make music I hope you enjoy this conversation — please like, subscribe and comment! –  Connect with Caro https://carokelley.com https://www.instagram.com/caro_kelley https://www.youtube.com/@CaroKelley open.spotify.com/artist/2irYBhMCKpDH8TSK1cQVZr?si=iMvye09rTTKo25WVLu_w4A –  Connect with us Backstage Journey - Coaching & Mentoring for Musicians https://www.backstagejourney.com Details, Key-Takeaways und Goodies zum Podcast:  https://www.backstagejourney.com/de/podcast Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/backstagejourney _  Come back stage with us!  Subscribe to the Backstage Journey Newsletter and get inspiring contend, Blogpost an more every other week. → https://post.backstagejourney.de/264/1818/1400bda015/subscribe/form.html?_g=1781531550 –  Music: Wisconsin by Marco Hohner  –  Foto Credits  Photo 1, 3, 4 - Patric Eckstein Photo 2 - André Symann

  2. Oct 9

    Why releasing music isn't enough and why we need other musicians with Godfrey de Grut

    Godfrey de Grut is a musician, composer, arranger and educator from Auckland, New Zealand. He expresses himself through various instruments, including saxophone, keyboard and guitar, and has worked across jazz, hip-hop and pop, performing with major artists and jazz legends. He also cares deeply about the development of young musicians through the songwriting program at the University of Auckland. We talk about the pressure that can come with success, and how trying to make everything perfect can sometimes prevent us from making and sharing music at all. Godfrey reflects on his own experiences and why he believes musicians shouldn't be too precious about their output — while also learning to trust their own instincts. We also explore what happens to music in an increasingly digital and AI-driven world. Is it possible to learn and create music entirely on your own? Or do musicians, more than ever, need other people — collaborators, mentors, audiences and communities — to truly grow? We covered this and more: • The pressure that comes with musical success • AI, technology and the human element of music • Why perfectionism can stop musicians from releasing their work • Why process can matter more than outcome • The danger of identifying too strongly with your music • How the definition of success changes throughout a musician's life • Building an audience in today's music landscape • Why musicians need relationships and community • Music education, university and learning outside institutions • The pros and cons of being a multi-instrumentalist vs. a specialist I hope you enjoy this conversation — please like, subscribe and comment! –  Connect with Godfrey  https://www.youtube.com/@godfreydegrut – Connect with us Backstage Journey - Coaching & Mentoring for Musicians https://www.backstagejourney.com Details, Key-Takeaways und Goodies zum Podcast:  https://www.backstagejourney.com/de/podcast Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/backstagejourney _  Come back stage with us!  Subscribe to the Backstage Journey Newsletter and get inspiring contend, Blogpost an more every other week. → https://post.backstagejourney.de/264/1818/1400bda015/subscribe/form.html?_g=1781531550 –  Music: Wisconsin by Marco Hohner

  3. Sep 25

    Music as a Path to Presence - Punnu Wasu on Kirtan, Flow & the Spirituality of Music

    Music has always been equally a medium for entertainment and spirituality and It can be a way of becoming fully present. In this conversation with Indian Kirtan and Bhakti musician Punnu Wasu, we explore music as a path to presence, flow and inner connection. What changes when we stop approaching music purely from the mind and begin to truly feel it? And what happens when performing becomes less about proving ourselves and more about making an offering? Punnu shares insights from his upbringing in India, where meditation, yoga, spirituality and music were deeply intertwined. We talk about Kirtan, Mantra, devotion, the relationship between musician and audience, and the possibility that we are not simply playing music — but allowing music to play through us. What can Western musicians learn from these traditions about finding more freedom, joy and fulfillment in music? Punnu Wasu is an Indian musician, educator, and sound healer. He’s running his own academy and travels between Bali and Switzerland. We covered this and more:• Growing up in India with meditation, yoga, spirituality and music• The meaning and purpose of Mantra and Kirtan• The difference between thinking music and feeling music• How musicians can move beyond performance and enter a state of flow• Why technical skill alone is not enough• The role of emotion, devotion and surrender in music• How unconscious patterns influence our behaviour• The trap of comparison — and learning from musicians who inspire us• The idea that we might be the instrument rather than the one playing• Music as an offering, without expectation or agenda• Meditation as a bridge to presence and deeper awareness Please excuse the audio quality on this episode — we were surrounded by tropical rains this time :) I hope you enjoy this conversation! –  Connect with Punnu https://www.punnuwasu.com/ https://www.instagram.com/punnuwasu – Connect with us Backstage Journey - Coaching & Mentoring for Musicians https://www.backstagejourney.com Details, Key-Takeaways und Goodies zum Podcast:  https://www.backstagejourney.com/de/podcast Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/backstagejourney _  Come back stage with us!  Subscribe to the Backstage Journey Newsletter and get inspiring contend, Blogpost an more every other week. → https://post.backstagejourney.de/264/1818/1400bda015/subscribe/form.html?_g=1781531550 –  Music: Wisconsin by Marco Hohner  –

  4. Sep 10

    Vom Klimaforscher zum Liedermacher – Erik Stenzel über Musik mit Haltung

    Was bringt einen Musiker dazu, abseits des Mainstreams Songs mit einer extrem unangenehmen Message zu schreiben und diese landesweit mit dem Fahrrad und öffentlichen Verkehrsmitteln unter die Menschen zu bringen? Erik Stenzel ist Liedermacher und musikalischer Klimaaktivist. Er hat Geographie und Klimatologie studiert, entschied sich dann aber gegen eine akademische Karriere und dafür, Musik als Medium für gesellschaftlichen Wandel zu nutzen. Seitdem komponiert er Songs, die beim Zuhören oft ein bisschen wehtun oder sogar Angst machen – doch im Endeffekt einfach den Nagel auf den Kopf treffen. Wir sprechen über: • seine Entwicklung von Metallica-Covers bis zu eigenen Protest-Songs • eine wichtige Entscheidung gegen den geplanten Berufsweg – für Musik und Klimaaufklärung • das Verlassen der eigenen Komfortzone, um authentisch als Musiker zu leben • die zeitlichen und finanziellen Herausforderungen als komplett unabhängiger Künstler • den Verzicht auf ein Auto und das Tourleben mit dem Fahrrad Ein ehrliches Gespräch über unser Dilemma in der Klimakrise, Mut und Authentizität – und darüber, wie wir als Musiker Stellung beziehen und gesellschaftliche Verantwortung übernehmen können. Viel Spaß beim Zuhören! und herzlichen Dank fürs Subscriben! – Erik: https://erikstenzel.info https://www.instagram.com/erikstenzel.liedermacher www.youtube.com/@erikstenzelliedermacher facebook.com/erikstenzel.liedermacher open.spotify.com/artist/6xdJaKGTQZaJzQ7pUQSWjd – Backstage Journey - Coaching & Mentoring for Musicians https://www.backstagejourney.com Details, Key-Takeaways und Goodies zum Podcast: https://www.backstagejourney.com/de/podcast Follow us on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/backstagejourney_ Begleite uns hinter die Bühne!Alle zwei Wochen erhältst du die neue Folge von Backstage Wisdom, den passenden Blogartikel und inspirierende Gedanken rund um das Musikerleben – direkt in dein Postfach. → Kostenlos anmelden https://post.backstagejourney.de/264/1818/1400bda015/subscribe/form.html?_g=1781531550 – Music: Wisconsin by Marco Hohner – Fotos : 1. Mathis Saathoff 2. Kay_Khambatta 3. Dennis Maschmann 4. Christian Deusel 5. Mathis Saathoff 6. Mathis Saathoff

  5. Aug 13

    Die Leere nach dem Erfolg bringt uns dazu, die wichtigen Fragen zu stellen - Hanni Liang

    Manchmal muss man sein großes Ziel erreichen und danach abstürzen, um sich wieder auf das Wesentliche – unser Warum – zu besinnen.Hanni Liang ist Konzertpianistin, Hochschuldozentin und Konzertdesignerin. Sie ging lange den traditionellen Weg der klassischen Musik: Unterricht, Wettbewerbe, Perfektion. Bis sie eines Tages in der Elbphilharmonie ihr Traumkonzert spielen durfte. Danach kam die Leere. Und die Fragen, auf die wir manchmal noch keine Antwort haben, die uns aber wirklich weiterbringen.Wir sprechen über:• ihren Spagat zwischen Musik- und Musikmanagementstudium• Dogmen und Leistungsdruck in der Klassik• Komfortzonen und darüber, wie wir uns von ihnen lösen• Künstliche Intelligenz in der Musik – ihre Chancen und Gefahren• wie wir das Konzept „Konzert“ ganz neu denken können• Improvisation als Befreier für Musikerinnen und Publikum• die Balance zwischen Kunst, Authentizität und Familie• die gesellschaftliche Verantwortung von MusikerinnenEin offenes Gespräch über Balance, Anspruch und die Frage, was am Ende wirklich zählt.Viel Spaß beim Zuhören!–Hannihttps://hanni-liang.comhttps://www.instagram.com/hanniliang–Backstage Journey - Coaching & Mentoring for Musicianshttps://www.backstagejourney.comFollow us on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/backstagejourney_ Begleite uns hinter die Bühne!Alle zwei Wochen erhältst du die neue Folge von Backstage Wisdom, den passenden Blogartikel und inspirierende Gedanken rund um das Musikerleben – direkt in dein Postfach.→ Kostenlos anmelden https://post.backstagejourney.de/264/1818/1400bda015/subscribe/form.html?_g=1781531550– Music: Wisconsin by Marco Hohner – Fotos : LIX

  6. Jul 30

    Plan oder Intuition? Wie findet man den eigenen Weg als Musiker*in? Christine und Phillip von HOPE

    Muss eine erfolgreiche Musikkarriere einem festen Plan folgen – oder entsteht sie genau dort, wo wir lernen, unserer Intuition zu vertrauen? In dieser Folge von Backstage Wisdom spreche ich mit Christine Börsch-Supan und Phillip Staffa von der Band Hope über ihren Weg vom Musikstudium über drei Alben bis hin zu ihren Konzerten als Support von Depeche Mode. Schnell wird klar: Dieses Gespräch geht weit über die Beschreibung einer Musikerkarriere hinaus - es geht um kreative Zusammenarbeit, Vertrauen, persönliche Entwicklung und die Frage, was ein erfülltes Musikerleben wirklich ausmacht. Wir sprechen unter anderem über: • Warum wir den eigenen Weg selten vollständig planen können
 • Wie Intuition dabei helfen kann, musikalische Entscheidungen zu treffen
 • Kreative Zusammenarbeit in Bands – und warum große Musik selten allein entsteht 
• Wie sich unsere Definition von Erfolg im Laufe eines Musikerlebens verändern kann
• Warum äußere Meilensteine nicht automatisch zu innerer Erfüllung führen 
• Die Balance zwischen künstlerischer Freiheit, Eigeninitiative und Verantwortung
 • Was Musiker*innen brauchen, um langfristig mit Freude Musik zu machen Ein ehrliches Gespräch über Vertrauen, Kreativität und den Mut, den eigenen Weg immer wieder neu zu gehen. Viel Freude beim Zuhören! – HOPE - Band https://www.thisishope.de Phillip - Art https://www.phillipstaffa.com Christine - Art https://www.christineboerschsupan.com – Backstage Journey https://www.backstagejourney.com Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/backstagejourney Abonniere den Backstage Journey Newsletter! https://post.backstagejourney.de/264/1818/1400bda015/subscribe/form.html?_g=1781531550 – Music: Wisconsin by Marco Hohner – Fotos 1 Karsten Boysen 2 Karsten Boysen 3 Joe Dilworth HOPE Live Footage filmed and edited by Karsten Boysen

  7. Jul 16

    Building a sustainable career as a musician and perfectionist with Dixon Nacey

    What does success actually look like for a professional musician? In this conversation, Dixon Nacey challenges a lot of the assumptions many musicians grow up with. Instead of chasing the next gig or defining success by recognition, we talk about something much more fundamental: how to build a sustainable career without losing the reason you fell in love with music in the first place. One of the ideas that stayed with me most is Dixon's perspective that the real reward isn't the performance—it's the hours spent discovering your own musical voice. The stage is simply where that work becomes visible. We also discuss why playing cover gigs isn't "selling out," how they can create the freedom to pursue meaningful artistic projects, why copying your heroes is a necessary part of growth, and how every musician already has a unique voice long before they become technically accomplished. In this episode: When jazz alone doesn’t pay the billsUsing commercial work to support creative freedomHow to deal with being a perfectionist AND an empathic personWhy the process matters more than the performanceLearning from your heroes without becoming a copyWhat it really means to find your own musical voiceWhy there are no shortcuts in becoming an artist If you've ever questioned what success in music should actually look like, this conversation is for you. – Dixon Nacey https://open.spotify.com/intl-de/artist/0nrP1gbv6Gd2VuUdXha7aA?si=jHKbuQqnRVOrBFmq9Sap6Q https://www.facebook.com/dixon.nacey/ https://www.instagram.com/dragondix/ – Backstage Journey  https://www.backstagejourney.com Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/backstagejourney –  Music: Wisconsin by Marco Hohner  –  Photos  1 Berry Young 2 Kevin Haines 3 Andi Crown

  8. Jul 2

    Das hätten wir gerne als junge Musiker gewusst – Ron Spielmann & Steven Töteberg

    Was macht ein erfülltes Musikerleben wirklich aus? Wie kann ein Musiker von Achtsamkeit und Selbstreflextion profitieren und kann uns Musik auch manchmal retten? In dieser tief gehenden Podcastfolge spreche ich mit den Musikern Ron Spielman und Steven Töteberg über 40 Jahre Bühnenerfahrung, Burnout, Leistungsdruck, Bühnenangst, Kreativität und die Suche nach innerer Freiheit. Wir sprechen unter anderem über: • Warum Erfolg nicht automatisch glücklich macht• Den Druck, ständig besser werden zu müssen• Identität als Musiker – wer bist du ohne deine Musik?• Körperliche Spannung, Lampenfieber und mentale Blockaden• Die Alexander-Technik, Philosophie und warum weniger oft mehr ist• Achtsamkeit, Meditation und der Umgang mit dem eigenen Ego• Was junge Musiker heute wirklich lernen sollten Ein sehr offenes und ehrliches Gespräch über das Musikerleben.  Viel Freude beim Zuhören! – Ron Spielman https://www.ronspielman.de https://www.instagram.com/ron_spielman Steven’s Alexander Technik Website:  https://www.steven-toeteberg.de Steven’s musikalische Projekte:  https://sonkomusic.com – https://www.backstagejourney.com Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/backstagejourney –  Music: Wisconsin by Marco Hohner  –  Fotos Ron Spielman | Foto 1,3 | Dovile Sermokas | Foto 2 | David Stelter | Steven Töteberg | Foto 1, 2 | Steven Töteberg | Foto 3 |Lüder Lindau |

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The podcast for musicians searching for meaning, joy and flow – episodes in German and English. Backstage Wisdom dives deep into the inner world of musicians: the doubts, the longing for purpose, health and the beauty of growth. Marco Hohner – musician and coach – shares authentic conversations with artists and experts from around the world and explores what it truly means to live and create from a place of alignment, and what it takes to build a fulfilled musician’s life along the way. A space for honest reflection, inspiration, and the courage to walk your own path – both on and off stage.