The Sunday Lunch Podcast

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Honest conversations about family business, leadership and relationships. Hosted by Mike Overwater and Lisa Clausen, founders of ekoYOU, The Sunday Lunch Podcast explores what really happens when business and relationships become intertwined.  ekoYOU's coaching and training helps family businesses shift the partnership dynamics that are quietly costing them peace, profit, and Sunday lunches. Having grown up in family businesses, worked in them, led them and built businesses together, Mike and Lisa understand that the biggest challenges in business are often not about strategy, systems or profit. They're about people. Communication.Expectations.Trust.Decision-making.Relationships. Each week, Mike and Lis share honest conversations, personal stories, practical insights and lessons learned from decades of experience helping businesses and partnerships create more calm, alignment and momentum. Whether you're in business with your partner, your family, or people you've known for years, this podcast will help you navigate the conversations, challenges and opportunities that come when business and relationships collide. Because the conversations we avoid often become the challenges we face. And the most important business conversations rarely happen in the boardroom. They happen around the Sunday lunch table... unless, that is, people are avoiding Sunday lunches all together ;)

Episodes

  1. 2d ago

    7. The Money Conversation: What You're Really Arguing About

    Money is everywhere in a family business — and yet the real conversations about it almost never happen.  In this episode, Mike and Lisa go beneath the surface of financial conflict to explore what money actually means to the people in it. Security. Freedom. Fairness. Love. The numbers are rarely the point. When two or more people in business together have different relationships with money — and haven't named them — those differences show up as arguments about budgets, salaries and dividends that feel disproportionately personal. Because they are.  Mike and Lisa share honestly from their own experience, and look at how to have the money conversation that actually matters — not the one about the spreadsheet, but the one about what's really going on underneath it. Send us Fan Mail

  2. Jul 19

    6. The Role Trap: When Roles Don't Get Chosen - They Just Happen

    In most family businesses and partnerships, roles don't get chosen, they just happen. Someone picks up what needed doing, and over time that arrangement becomes permanent.  In this episode, Mike and Lisa explore what happens when the role you started with no longer fits who you are or what the business needs — and why staying in the wrong seat costs more than most people realise.  They talk about the quiet frustration of being capable of more than you're being asked to do, the identity and emotion that gets tangled up in role conversations, and how to have an honest, constructive discussion about who should really be doing what.  If you've ever felt like you're doing the job nobody officially gave you, or outgrown the one they did — this one is for you. Send us Fan Mail

  3. Jul 12

    5. The Unspoken Rules: What Nobody Says But Everyone Knows

    In every family business and partnership, there are rules that everybody follows but nobody ever wrote down. Rules like — Dad makes the final call, always. Or — we don't bring a problem unless we already have the solution. Or — we simply don't talk about what happens when the founder isn't here anymore. Nobody agreed to these, they just became the way things are.  In this episode, Mike and Lisa explore where unspoken rules come from — including the ones they each carried into their own business from their upbringings — why they're so hard to spot, and the three types that do the most damage: conflict avoidance, unchecked leadership, and the silence around succession.  They share a story about a founder and next-generation transition where invisible rules were creating an invisible ceiling, and give three practical questions to help you find the unspoken rules in your own business. The goal isn't to tear everything down - some of those rules carry real wisdom. But there's a big difference between a rule you've chosen and one that's just been running unchecked for years.  Send us Fan Mail

  4. Jul 5

    4. The Vision Illusion: Are You Actually Building The Same Future?

    You've had the conversations and you've agreed on the goals. You're working hard and as business partners you both, or all, care. So why does it sometimes feel like you're not quite moving in the same direction?  Most family businesses don't have a problem related to strategies. They have a vision problem. And it's not because they haven't got one — but because the vision two people think they share isn't actually the same vision.  In this episode, Mike and Lisa introduce the concept of the Vision Illusion — the surprisingly common gap between the vision two people think they share and the one they're each actually holding. They get honest about their own experience — Mike focused on building something financially sustainable, Lisa on the impact and meaning of the work — and how that gap created a low-level friction that was hard to name.  They share a real story about a business partnership where one person was already planning their exit while the other was planning the next decade of growth. And they offer a simple but powerful place to start: stop talking about the business, and start talking about the life. If decisions feel slower than they should and conversations keep circling the same ground, this episode might explain why.  Send us Fan Mail

  5. Jun 28

    3. When Something Needs To Change & You Notice First

    Change in a family business almost always starts with one person. The person who senses something isn't quite right before anyone else is ready to acknowledge it. If you've ever found yourself lying awake at 2am wondering whether you're overthinking things, whether you should speak up, or whether you're the only one seeing what you can see, this episode is for you. In almost every family business, partnership or couple-led business, change begins with one person. The one who notices the tension before anyone else. The one who senses conversations becoming harder, relationships becoming strained, or the business slowly drifting off course. The difficult part? They often carry that awareness alone. In this episode, Lisa and Mike explore what it feels like to be the person who notices first, why that role can be so lonely, and why awareness doesn't always arrive at the same time for everyone. Drawing on their own experience, as well as the story of a business partnership facing this exact challenge, they discuss:  Why noticing first can feel both like a gift and a burden.  Why people become aware—and ready for change—at different times.  The emotional weight carried by the person trying to protect both the business and the relationships within it.  Why trying to fix everything alone rarely works.  How one courageous conversation can begin to change everything. Because awareness isn't something to fear. And it could be all that stands between where you are now and the beginning of something better. Sometimes the most important thing you can do isn't solve the problem. It's simply begin the conversation. *Music credits to Dagored Send us Fan Mail

    3. When Something Needs To Change & You Notice First

  6. Jun 20

    2. The Year Everything Fell Apart (And What It Taught Us)

    Where did the Abundance in Business Method™ come from? In this episode, Mike and Lisa share the real story behind the framework that now underpins all of their work with family businesses and business partnerships. The story begins during a period when things weren't working — not just in business, but in their relationship too.  Together, they explore:  Why they thought they had a business problem when the real issue was much deeper  The conversation that changed everything  How they discovered they wanted the same destination but had different ideas about how to get there  The origins of the ME, US and BUSINESS framework  Why healthy people and healthy partnerships create healthy businesses  The story of three business partners who found themselves facing similar challenges  How the Abundance in Business Scorecard helps uncover where pressure is really coming from If you've ever felt like your business is becoming harder than it should be, this episode will help you understand why. Because sometimes the problem isn't the business. Sometimes it's what's happening underneath it. Calm within. Aligned together. Profitable in a way that supports life. *Music credits to Dagored Send us Fan Mail

    2. The Year Everything Fell Apart (And What It Taught Us)

  7. Jun 13

    1. Why we started The Sunday Lunch Podcast

    Welcome to the very first episode of The Sunday Lunch Podcast!  Thanks for being here. In this opening conversation, we share why we created this podcast and the journey that brought us here. Between us, we've spent most of our lives in and around family businesses. We've grown up in them, worked in them, led them and, at times, survived them. Along the way we've learned that while family business can be incredibly rewarding, it can also bring unique challenges because business, family and relationships are so closely connected. In this episode we talk about: • Why so many people feel like they're carrying concerns nobody else can see • What growing up in family businesses taught us about responsibility, communication and relationships • The hidden challenges that arise when family and business become intertwined • What happened when we started working together as a couple • Why alignment isn't about agreeing on everything • The lessons we've learned from navigating business, family pressure and life together Whether you're in business with your partner, your family, or people you've known for years, this episode will help you understand why the conversations we avoid often become the challenges we face. And we'll leave you with one question to reflect on: What conversation have you been avoiding? The Sunday Lunch Podcast is about honest conversations on family business, leadership and relationships — because the most important business conversations rarely happen in the boardroom. Hosted by Mike Overwater and Lisa Clausen from ekoYOU. *Music credits to Dagored Send us Fan Mail

    1. Why we started The Sunday Lunch Podcast
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Honest conversations about family business, leadership and relationships. Hosted by Mike Overwater and Lisa Clausen, founders of ekoYOU, The Sunday Lunch Podcast explores what really happens when business and relationships become intertwined.  ekoYOU's coaching and training helps family businesses shift the partnership dynamics that are quietly costing them peace, profit, and Sunday lunches. Having grown up in family businesses, worked in them, led them and built businesses together, Mike and Lisa understand that the biggest challenges in business are often not about strategy, systems or profit. They're about people. Communication.Expectations.Trust.Decision-making.Relationships. Each week, Mike and Lis share honest conversations, personal stories, practical insights and lessons learned from decades of experience helping businesses and partnerships create more calm, alignment and momentum. Whether you're in business with your partner, your family, or people you've known for years, this podcast will help you navigate the conversations, challenges and opportunities that come when business and relationships collide. Because the conversations we avoid often become the challenges we face. And the most important business conversations rarely happen in the boardroom. They happen around the Sunday lunch table... unless, that is, people are avoiding Sunday lunches all together ;)

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  • Creator
    ekoYOU
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    7
  • Rating
    Clean
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    © 2026 The Sunday Lunch Podcast
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