The Last Click

Chris Parsons

The Last Click is a retail, ecommerce, DTC, and digital marketing podcast and newsletter focused on what actually drives customer decisions, conversion, and growth. Hosted by Chris Parsons, award-winning marketer and author of Retail Rewired, The Last Click shares real-world insights from the front lines of modern commerce. Each episode explores customer acquisition, ecommerce growth, retail media, performance marketing, brand building, conversion optimization, AI in retail, customer experience, loyalty, omnichannel strategy, SEO, paid media, content strategy, merchandising, retention, store traffic, and the final moments that influence a purchase. Built for retail leaders, ecommerce teams, DTC brands, founders, marketers, agencies, and growth-focused operators, The Last Click helps answer one simple question: what gets the customer to click, buy, visit, book, subscribe, or come back?

  1. 1h ago ·  Bonus

    Keywords vs. Context: The Future of Ecommerce Search ft Andrew AJ Desmarais

    Search is moving from keywords to context, and ads have to move with it. Andrew Desmarais on AI product discovery and retail media done right. Sponsored listings have a bad reputation for a reason: most of them ignore who is actually looking. Andrew Desmarais works on a platform built around the opposite idea, where a paid placement is treated as a search result that has to earn its position rather than buy it. We get into how AI is changing what shoppers type and ask, why long-tail and conversational queries break traditional keyword matching, and what happens to product discovery when an AI agent is doing the shopping. He also gets into the less glamorous side, which is proving return on the spend. Useful if you own search, retail media, or a discovery experience that is starting to feel dated. WHAT WE GET INTO How AI changes what product search has to understand Keywords versus context, and why the shift matters now Serving ads that feel made for the shopper instead of bolted on Making sponsored placements complement organic results instead of fighting them Off-site recommendations and where retail media goes beyond your own site Long-tail and conversational queries that keyword engines never handled well What AI agents change about the shopping journey Measuring return so retail media survives the next budget review What the conference floor says about where the industry actually is ABOUT ANDREW DESMARAIS Andrew Desmarais works on the commercial team at Constructor, the AI product search and discovery platform built specifically for ecommerce. Founded in 2015, Constructor uses natural language processing, machine learning, and generative AI across search, browse, recommendations, quizzes, and AI shopping assistants, and now offers a retail media suite with personalized sponsored listings. Its customers include Sephora, Petco, Bonobos, Birkenstock, and Target Australia. WHAT YOU WILL LEARN - Why keyword-matching engines struggle with the way people search now - How to run sponsored placements without eroding trust in your results - Where personalization makes an ad genuinely useful rather than intrusive - What to prepare for as AI agents start doing product discovery for shoppers - How to measure retail media return in a way that holds up internally QUOTE OF THE EPISODE "Search is changing from keywords to context." CONNECT WITH ANDREW LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-desmarais-aba202176/ Constructor: https://constructor.com CONNECT WITH THE SHOW The Last Click: https://www.thelastclick.co/ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-last-click/id1896943826 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/033B9FZX57M6cuTn52LXel The Last Click on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thelastclick/ Chris Parsons on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisaparsons/

  2. 6d ago

    How Warroad Builds Brand Loyalty and Scale ft Andrew Nichols | The Last Click Ep 11

    Navigating Brand Evolution with Andrew NicholsInsights from the journey of Crocs, Biosteel to Warroad and beyond. Morning everyone! Today, I had the pleasure of chatting with Andrew Nichols, a seasoned leader in brand management and growth. Andrew's journey spans various industries—from consumer packaged goods to e-commerce and sports nutrition. His insights on brand evolution and market positioning are incredibly valuable for anyone looking to navigate the complexities of modern business. A Unique Path in Brand ManagementAndrew began his career at Unilever, gaining a solid foundation in consumer goods. However, his journey took a turn as he ventured into e-commerce, where he helped brands understand the importance of technology in scaling their operations. His diverse experience includes roles at Sony Electronics, the Canadian Olympic Association, and managing Crocs Canada for nearly a decade. "Every time that we've engaged, you are with a brand and you're really defining that brand and taking it from a level where it's like it's kind of hit this early maturity state and you're finding ways to take it to the next level." — Chris Parsons The Crocs PhenomenonAndrew shared fascinating insights about his time at Crocs, a brand that has undergone multiple revivals in its popularity. He was instrumental in transforming Crocs’ e-commerce strategy, shifting from a marketing website to a robust e-commerce platform that could compete with giants like Amazon. He emphasized the importance of channel strategy, highlighting how brands often struggle when they don’t define their retail approach. Andrew's role involved ensuring that partners understood their unique positions in the market and helped create a balanced demand across various channels. From Sports Nutrition to Brand IdentityTransitioning to Biosteel, Andrew applied his expertise to position the brand as a go-to option for athletes. What’s striking about Biosteel's approach is how it built brand loyalty through authenticity. Andrew noted that their growth was driven by athletes choosing Biosteel over competitors, which naturally enhanced brand awareness. "We were born on the backs of an athlete need and we built that brand under the pretense that if you know, you know." — Andrew Nichols The Future of War Road Hockey CompanyCurrently, Andrew is the President and Chief Revenue Officer at War Road Hockey Company. He reflects on how his past experiences shape his leadership style today, emphasizing the importance of leveraging existing relationships and understanding market dynamics. As we wrapped up our conversation, it was clear that understanding consumer behavior and maintaining a flexible strategy are key to thriving in today’s competitive landscape. Reflecting on Andrew’s journey reminds us that success often comes from a blend of experience, adaptability, and a deep understanding of the audience. If you’re navigating brand dynamics, take a page out of Andrew’s book—embrace change and listen to your customers. For more insights from Andrew's journey and to hear the full conversation, check out the complete episode!

  3. Aug 13 ·  Bonus

    Retail AI Community Helping Stores Find the Right Fit ft Doug Weich | eTail Boston

    Navigating AI in Retail: Insights from Doug at E-TailDiscover how the Retail AI Council is shaping the future of retail with AI solutions. At E-Tail, the energy is palpable as industry leaders gather to discuss the future of retail technology. Chris Parsons sat down with Doug Weich, the driving force behind the Retail AI Council, to explore the challenges and opportunities retailers face as they navigate the rapidly evolving AI landscape. The Role of the Retail AI CouncilThe Retail AI Council is a unique initiative built by retailers for retailers. Doug emphasizes their mission: "helping retailers leverage AI effectively." In a world where technology is advancing at breakneck speed, retailers often struggle to keep up. This council provides a collaborative space where retailers can discuss their needs without the pressure of being sold to. Collaboration Over CompetitionWhat's refreshing about the Retail AI Council is its focus on community rather than competition. Doug explains, "We’re not consultants or analysts; we’re here to facilitate connections and promote collaboration." This approach allows retailers to share insights and solutions, ultimately helping them find the right technology that fits their specific challenges. Finding the Right SolutionsAs Doug highlights, the process of finding the right AI solutions can be daunting. With hundreds of booths at events like E-Tail, "it’s tough for a small team to navigate and find the right fit." The council aims to ease this burden by fostering conversations among retailers, allowing them to share experiences and recommendations organically. A Safe Space for RetailersThe conversations within the Retail AI Council create a safe space for sharing. Doug notes how "honesty and transparency come out" when veterans in retail discuss their pain points and creative solutions. This level of collaboration is essential for driving innovation in the industry. Join the Retail AI CouncilFor those looking to connect and collaborate, joining the Retail AI Council is straightforward and free. Doug invites all retailers and industry partners to participate, saying, "There’s a big red join button at retailaicouncil.com, and it’s free for everyone." This initiative is powered by its members, ensuring that the council's direction aligns with the actual needs of the retail community. As the retail landscape continues to evolve, organizations like the Retail AI Council are crucial in helping retailers adapt and thrive. Stay tuned for more insights and conversations from the frontlines of retail technology! https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougweich/

  4. Aug 13 ·  Bonus

    The Kate Farms Pivot ft Catherine Hayden | eTail Boston

    Nourishing Change: The Story Behind Kate FarmsDiscover how Kate Farms is transforming nutrition for those in need. Hey there, Today, we delve into the inspiring journey of Kate Farms, a company founded with a mission born from necessity. Chris Parsons sits down with Catherine from Kate Farms, who shares the profound story of how the company came to be and its evolution in the world of nutrition. The Heart of Kate FarmsKate Farms was established by Richard and Michelle, driven by the challenges they faced with their daughter Katie, who was born with cerebral palsy. Exclusively tube-fed from an early age, Katie struggled to thrive on existing products. "When she was five, she weighed 16 pounds, and this number just is imprinted in my mind... two parents desperate to save her," Catherine reflects. Determined to make a difference, they collaborated with a dietitian and vegan chef to create a plant-based, organic, and allergen-free formula that has become the cornerstone of Kate Farms’ offerings. A Shift in DirectionFast forward to 2016, Kate Farms transitioned from retail to focus on the medical channel, after realizing that families like Richard and Michelle were seeking their products in bulk. This pivot marked a significant shift in their business model, led by CEO Brett Matthews. Catherine, who joined the team in January 2018, highlights the broader mission that has emerged: "We've learned that there are many people beyond the medical channel that need access to good nutrition." The company has since launched new product lines, including everyday nutrition for kids and adults, and has expanded its distribution dramatically—recently securing a spot in 6,800 stores across major retailers like Walmart and CVS. Lessons LearnedNavigating the complexities of pricing and distribution has been a significant learning curve for the team. Catherine shares the challenges they face with maintaining quality while adapting to the competitive landscape: "How do we think about the margin structure? Ultimately, we want to maintain the same standards and high quality." As Kate Farms continues to grow, their commitment to providing nutritious options for those in need remains unwavering. Catherine’s story is a testament to the power of perseverance and innovation in the face of adversity. Reflecting on this journey, it’s clear that Kate Farms is just getting started. For more insights, dive into the full conversation with Catherine on The Last Click.

  5. Jul 28

    Building Cult Brand Loyalty ft Stephen Bailey from Fluevog Shoes | The Last Click Ep 10

    Why do the most resilient brands focus on making people feel seen rather than just optimizing for clicks? In this episode of The Last Click, host Chris Parsons sits down with Stephen Bailey, Chief Marketing Officer at John Fluevog Shoes. With over 20 years of retail experience, Stephen shares why the real growth lever in modern commerce isn't just automated pipelines or data dashboards—it's humanness, community, and radical trust. Discover how John Fluevog built a cult-like customer base, why patience is a key strategy for brand longevity, and how modern retail leaders can successfully balance AI and data analytics with genuine human empathy. 🎯 Key Takeaways & Topics Covered: Community Beats Transaction: How treating customers like a community rather than sales targets builds lasting trust. Human Service as a Competitive Advantage: Why in-store expertise and empathy create irreplaceable value. Patience & Consistency: Why real brand loyalty takes discipline and resisting short-term quarterly metrics. Data + Context: Analytics tell you what is happening, but human context explains why. Balancing Tech & Human Touch: Leveraging AI for operational efficiency while empowering teams to drive meaningful customer connections. ⏱️ Timestamps / Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction and Guest Credibility00:26 – Stephen's Background and Community Focus02:04 – The Fluevog Community and Advocacy03:34 – Creating a Tightly Knit Customer Base06:38 – Building Advocacy Through Patience and Service07:51 – The Power of Face-to-Face Interactions08:51 – Product Knowledge vs. Human Connection09:21 – Patience as a Key to Brand Longevity10:37 – Using Technology to Profile and Personalize13:26 – Balancing AI and Human Touch15:23 – The Impact of Mass Market Expansion on Culture16:24 – Shifting from Wholesale to Direct Channels18:55 – Maintaining Brand Integrity and Trust22:40 – Creating Unique Customer Experiences26:32 – Leadership and Empathy in Retail30:35 – Final Thoughts and Nuggets of Wisdom🔗 Resources & Guest Links: Guest: Stephen Bailey (CMO, John Fluevog Shoes) John Fluevog Shoes: fluevog.com The Last Click Platform: thelastclick.co Stephen has spent the last 20 years on client side, charged with telling the world about John Fluevog's unique soles for unique souls. Fluevog is a 56 year old, independent, Canadian footwear brand that now has 20 company owned stores in Canada, and the US and the world's greatest and largest fan base of Fluevogers. For Fluevog, and a hand picked selection of other incredible brands he works primarily on branding, communications, ecommerce, partnerships, retail strategy and all of the best omnis. Stephen lives in Vancouver with his lovely wife & their two horrible teenagers, and enjoys soccer, coaching and writing in the third person.

  6. Jul 15

    From Burnout to Breakthrough ft Vivian McCormick from Wilet | The Last Click Ep 9

    The conversation covers the journey of an entrepreneur navigating burnout, career shifts, and the challenges of retail. It also delves into the introduction of a linen essentials brand, the co-founding of a mahjong business, and the entrepreneurial culture in British Columbia. Additionally, it explores the impact of the pace of work and the need for change management in the modern workplace. The conversation delves into the impact of AI on productivity and the reservations associated with its use. It also explores the mental load and existential concerns faced by individuals, as well as the importance of business layering and risk assessment. Additionally, it discusses community building, authentic marketing, and the courage required in decision-making and business evolution. Vivian McCormick https://shopwilet.com/ Takeaways Navigating burnoutEntrepreneurial challenges AI and its impact on productivityThe importance of human connection in business Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Community Giving01:23 Navigating Burnout and Career Shift05:23 Introduction to Willet and Linen Essentials07:04 Linen Essentials and Sleep Comfort09:53 Starting Willet and Identity Shift12:53 Co-founding mijs and Mahjong14:45 Entrepreneurial Culture in BC17:30 The Messy Middle of Retail21:38 Pace of Work and Change Management24:50 The Impact of AI on Productivity and Reservations29:57 The Mental Load and Existential Concerns32:10 Business Layering and Risk Assessment38:03 Community Building and Authentic Marketing43:22 Courage in Decision-Making and Business Evolution

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The Last Click is a retail, ecommerce, DTC, and digital marketing podcast and newsletter focused on what actually drives customer decisions, conversion, and growth. Hosted by Chris Parsons, award-winning marketer and author of Retail Rewired, The Last Click shares real-world insights from the front lines of modern commerce. Each episode explores customer acquisition, ecommerce growth, retail media, performance marketing, brand building, conversion optimization, AI in retail, customer experience, loyalty, omnichannel strategy, SEO, paid media, content strategy, merchandising, retention, store traffic, and the final moments that influence a purchase. Built for retail leaders, ecommerce teams, DTC brands, founders, marketers, agencies, and growth-focused operators, The Last Click helps answer one simple question: what gets the customer to click, buy, visit, book, subscribe, or come back?