We were raised on “walk it off,” “push through,” and “keep moving.” The problem? Your body keeps receipts. For years, many of us became experts at functioning through stress, overwork, family responsibilities, emotional pain, and exhaustion. Then one day the body may stop whispering and start demanding our attention. In this episode of Perpetual mOetion, Dr. mOe Anderson sits down with energy healing practitioner and author Dayna Wylder, whose diagnosis with multiple sclerosis changed the way she thought about illness, stress, trauma, and the mind-body connection. Dayna shares how her own journey led her to explore what she describes as energy medicine and the patterns we may carry long after the original experience has passed. The conversation gets especially real for high achievers. Dayna describes the “manager” personality—the part of us that learned to control, organize, accomplish, and keep everything together—and how a survival strategy that once served us can eventually become a pattern we need to unlearn. She and Dr. mOe also discuss perfectionism, toxic positivity, nervous-system regulation, and the difference between taking action and constantly fighting yourself. They also explore sound healing, meditation, nature, movement, emotional processing, and other complementary practices Dayna incorporates into her work. And because Dr. mOe comes from healthcare, the conversation doesn't skip the obvious question: Where is the evidence, and how do we remain open-minded without confusing personal experience with established science? Memorable Quotes “Symptoms are messages.” — Dayna Wylder “Health is a journey.” — Dayna Wylder In This Episode, You’ll Learn: Why Dayna believes healing involves more than addressing physical symptoms alone How old survival patterns can continue running our lives long after the danger is gone Why high achievers may struggle to stop managing, fixing, and controlling everything How affirmations can become toxic positivity when they override what we're actually feeling Why processing trauma doesn't necessarily mean repeatedly reliving every painful detail How curiosity, rest, movement, nature, sound, and emotional awareness may become part of a broader approach to well-being Dayna is the author of Unlearn Dis-Ease, Relearn Well-Being, a 500-page exploration of physical, energetic, mental, emotional, and spiritual approaches to health. She says her biggest goal is to give readers something many people lose during a difficult diagnosis: hope—and the curiosity to keep searching for what supports their own well-being. Connect with Dayna Wylder Visit EnergyOverMatter.com to learn more about Dayna’s book, her Spirit to Cell podcast, YouTube resources, meditations, services, and free monthly virtual healing circle. Join the Conversation Did this episode make you recognize a pattern you've been carrying for years? Like, comment, and share this episode with someone who needs to hear it. Those simple actions help more people discover Perpetual mOetion and allow us to continue bringing you meaningful conversations with experts, authors, and changemakers from around the world. And if you're enjoying the show, follow or subscribe and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform. Perpetual mOetion is independently produced, and every review, share, and comment helps us grow. Bring Dr. mOe Anderson to Your Organization Looking for an engaging speaker on leadership, communication, workplace well-being, burnout, health equity, or personal growth? Visit DrMoeAnderson.com for speaking topics and booking information. Change your words. Change your world.
