ANTIC The Atari 8-bit Podcast

Randy Kindig, Kay Savetz, Brad Arnold
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We cover Atari news, reviews, and a special feature each show for the Atari 8-bit line of computers (400/800/XL/XE/XEGS)

  1. 2d ago

    Stephen Jones, Interim Computer Museum

    Stephen Jones, Interim Computer Museum   Stephen Jones describes himself as the "caretaker" of Interim Computer Museum, a computer museum in Tukwila, Washington, a few miles south of Seattle. Stephen has decades of involvement with sdf.org, the public-access UNIX system that's been around since 1987; he was senior engineering manager at the Living Computer Museum, Paul Allen's Seattle computer museum that shuttered in 2020.   In this interview, Stephen provides a brief history of SDF.org, the rise and fall of the Living Computer Museum, and the birth of the Interim Computer Museum. He explains what happened to the holdings of Living Computer Museum, and some of the interesting items at Interim Computer Museum.   This interview took place on May 3, 2026 at Vintage Computer Festival Pacific Northwest in Washington State. SDF.org Interim Computer Museum Allen Family Philanthropies Mimms Museum of Technology and Art Living Computer Museums + Labs site (archived) Christie's sale of the The Paul G. Allen Collection 2018 Interview - Cynde Moya, Collections Manager at Living Computers: Museum + Labs Idea Man by Paul Allen Source Code by Bill Gates

  2. Oct 15

    ANTIC Episode 131 - Brad's 30K Brain

    ANTIC Episode 131 - Brad's 30K Brain In this episode of ANTIC The Atari 8-Bit Computer Podcast… we discuss the newly announced THE ATARI800XL and give our opinions, we talk about Hamster power, and Brad now has only 30K for his brain, plus a whole lot more! READY! Recurring Links  Floppy Days Podcast  AtariArchives.org  AtariMagazines.com  Kay's Book "Terrible Nerd"  New Atari books scans at archive.org  ANTIC feedback at AtariAge  Atari interview discussion thread on AtariAge  Interview index: here  ANTIC Facebook Page  AHCS  Eaten By a Grue  Next Without For  What we've been up to FujiGrid - https://www.savetz.com/fujigrid/  Newsbytes - https://www.savetz.com/newsbytes  Updated AtariMagazines.com, AtariArchives.org, FlightSimBooks.com  VCF Midwest - https://www.vcfmw.org  Jeri Ellsworth - 1027 printer ribbon - https://www.jeriellsworth.com/  Atari BBS - https://www.southernamis.com/  Thom and Fujinet team - https://fujinet.online/  Jason Moore - https://atariprojects.org/  TACO/John Hardie - https://www.facebook.com/groups/29814905254/user/1615493844/  John Zielke (AtariBasics/Atari Insights) - https://ataribasics.com/  SpartaDOS X User Guide - https://retronics.eu/?a=item&id=360&l=en  Peter Jennings, Microchess interview on Floppy Days - https://floppydays.libsyn.com/floppy-days-167-interview-with-peter-jennings-microchess-and-visicorp  Mean Hamster Power Engine for XL/XE has arrived! - ziggystar - https://forums.atariage.com/topic/393445-mean-hamster-power-engine-for-xlxe-has-arrived/  TeensyROM and NFC for C64 - https://github.com/SensoriumEmbedded/TeensyROM  Recent Interview Shows ANTIC Interview 463 - Steve Bryson, game programmer - https://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/antic-interview-463-steve-bryson-game-programmer  ANTIC Interview 464 - Walt Klappert, Atari Advanced Development Group -  https://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/antic-interview-464-walt-klappert-atari-advanced-development-group  ANTIC Interview 465 - Vince Wu, The Learning Phone (Atari PLATO Terminal) -  https://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/antic-interview-465-vince-wu-the-learning-phone-atari-plato-terminal  ANTIC Interview 466 - John Victor, Program Design Inc. -  https://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/antic-interview-466-john-victor-program-design-inc  New & Updated Hardware THE ATARI800XL: https://atari.com/pages/800xl  https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/retro-gaming/the-atari-800xl-returns-with-a-faithful-but-modern-retro-games-ltd-redesign-classic-8-bit-home-computer-revamp-sports-mechanical-keyboard-and-hdmi-connectivity Antonia2 run - Simius - https://forums.atariage.com/topic/382122-antonia2-interest/page/8/#comment-5884400  New shine-through XE key caps sets - GROUP BUY PRE-ORDER - screamingattheradio - https://forums.atariage.com/topic/393071-new-shine-through-xe-key-caps-sets-group-buy-pre-order/  An Atari 130XE rebuilt as a laptop - Tavis Hord, Sideburn Studios: https://sideburn.com/lab/xebook/  Full specifications, configuration options and reservations are at xebook.sideburn.com  New & Updated Games King's Quest and other Sierra adventures for Atari 800 Released! - ziggystar: https://forums.atariage.com/topic/393029-kings-quest-for-atari-800-released/  Download and supported games - meanhamster.com/games/agi-64  AGI-ANTIC game demos on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF0OkYGMhHA  Doom for the A8PicoCart - ziggystar (John Swiderski, President, Mean Hamster Software Inc.) - https://forums.atariage.com/topic/393244-doom-for-a8pico-cart/   Elite For The Atari 8-Bit -- FireBird Version Has Been Completed And Is Released! - reifsnyderb (Brian Reifsnyder) - https://forums.atariage.com/topic/393094-elite-for-the-atari-8-bit-firebird-version-has-been-completed-and-is-released/  New & Updated Software Chleba - https://github.com/viktorcech/chleba  Atarijam - https://github.com/marspa73/atarijam  BMA8 - A Bare-Metal Atari 8-bit Emulator for Raspberry Pi:  https://www.reddit.com/r/atari8bit/s/osKWnaXj57  github.com/serkantanriverdi/bma8  Publications ABBUC Magazine - https://www.abbuc.de  Atari Insights - AtariBasics.com  GOTO10 substack: https://www.goto10retro.com/p/apx-forth-a-surprise  Contests 6th ATASCII Compo (2026): https://forums.atariage.com/topic/393223-6th-atascii-compo-2026/  As always you can check https://logiker.com/ATASCII for details Upcoming Shows 2026: VCF Montreal - November 7-8 - Champlain College Saint-Lambert, Saint-Lambert, QC - https://cvcfed.org/vcf-montreal-2-0/  2027: Indy Classic Computer and Video Game Expo - March 20-21 - Wyndham Indianapolis Airport Hotel, Indianapolis, IN - https://indyclassic.org/  VCF East - April 2-4 - InfoAge Science and History Museums, Wall, NJ - https://vcfed.org/events/vintage-computer-festival-east/  Midwest Gaming Classic - April 23-25 - Baird Center, Milwaukee, WI - https://www.midwestgamingclassic.com/  VCF Southwest - June 25-27 - Westin Dallas Ft. Worth Airport - https://www.vcfsw.org/  VCF SE July 16-18 - Atlanta - https://gameatl.com/  Event page on Floppy Days Website - https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSeLsg4hf5KZKtpxwUQgacCIsqeIdQeZniq3yE881wOCCYskpLVs5OO1PZLqRRF2t5fUUiaKByqQrgA/pub  YouTube Videos The Story Of: 5 More Unreleased 8-bit Atari Computers - Laird's Lair - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USZco04YXcw  ATARI's 800XL Is BACK—with a Working Cartridge Slot! - GenXGrownup - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEAWFPvMfyI  Sierra Classics On The C64 & Atari - This Week In Retro 288 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5tsmDt7kvY  Top 25 Atari 8bit Games not on the C64 - Into the Vertical Blank - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVs14K7qKZ8  New at Archive.org  https://archive.org/details/space-atari - 494 issues of St. Paul Atari Computer Enthusiasts newsletter! (thanks @Phlod on discord)  https://archive.org/details/198501-computer-shopper-x-1oc/  https://archive.org/details/computer-shopper-february-1989/  https://archive.org/details/computer-shopper-september-1986/  https://archive.org/details/computer-shopper-october-1988/  https://archive.org/details/computer-shopper-november-1987  https://archive.org/details/computer-shopper-march-1987  https://archive.org/details/computer-shopper-may-1986/  New at Github On the 8-Bit: https://github.com/N4t0-tech/Atari-Juego-Kaiju-SUPPA-ROBOTTO  https://github.com/peterkaczorowski/ORCA-Atari-Snippets  https://github.com/grzes71/atari-music-composer https://github-com.translate.goog/grzes71/atari-music-composer?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp  https://github.com/slaapliedje/gem4xe  https://github.com/grzes71/jabberwocky  Atari stuff moved to web?: https://github.com/MarcinZukowski/a8ext  https://github.com/jcoffey-dev/lemonade  https://github.com/Quaerendir/Heartlight  https://github.com/Quaerendir/TheJet  https://github.com/Quaerendir/FAC  https://github.com/prcoder-1/ATARI-WorldKarateChampionship-SDL-port  https://github.com/Setech-pl/setech-arcade  FloppoScope - https://github.com/0ldStaph/FloppoScope  Feedback https://estore.wacom.com/en-us/wacom-cintiq-24-touch-dth246k0a.html

  3. Oct 10

    ANTIC Interview 466 - John Victor, Program Design Inc.

    John Victor, Program Design Inc.   John Victor was founder and president of Program Design Inc., one of the earliest publishers of educational software. Based in Greenwich CT, PDI created dozens of educational software titles and a few not-so-educational games for Atari 8-bit, Commodore PET and 64, TRS-80, Apple II, and Texas Instruments computers. Software marketed by PDI included Moonbase IO, Sammy the Sea Serpent, and Preparing for the SAT (which was probably the first SAT prep software for any home computer).   PDI also created "An Invitation to Programming", the casette-based BASIC programming primer sold by Atari. That may have been the first "how to program" tutorial for a home computer.   Here's what ANALOG Computing's September 1981 issue had to say —   Program Design, Inc., better known as PDI, has been involved in supporting the Atari computers since even before its release. Most Atari computer owners know of this company through the Invitation to Programming series, which was conceived and executed entirely by PDI. Located in southern Connecticut, PDI has been actively producing educational software for several small computer systems, concentrating on the Atari in particular. The majority of PDI's offerings are oriented towards children, with the age bracket ranging from 3 years old to high school level. All of the programs are on cassette format only, frequently taking advantage of the voice track capability. One of the newer programs, "Sammy the Sea Serpent", is an interactive storybook type game where the child participates in the story. While graphics are  displayed on the screen, a voice (a female actress' voice was used in this case) narrates the story calling upon the child to use a joystick from time to time to move 'Sammy' about the screen. ... Other tapes drill students on vocabulary and number problems, with some aimed at preparing high school students for the SAT tests. For adults, Astro-Quotes and Mini-Crossword Puzzle can be an interesting challenge (Astro-Quotes, our particular favorite)...   Other titles published by PDI included Bowling, Captivity, various word search programs, Code Breaker, Let's Spell, Cash Register, Preschool IQ Builder, Reading Comprehension — the list goes on.   This interview took place on October 4, 2026. Video version of this interview 1984 Antic magazine profile of John Victor ANALOG Computing "In the Spotlight" PDI programs at AtariMania Programs co-credited to John An Invitation to Programming Moonbase IO game audio

  4. Sep 30

    ANTIC Interview 465 - Vince Wu, The Learning Phone (Atari PLATO Terminal)

    Vince Wu, The Learning Phone (Atari PLATO Terminal)   Vince Wu worked at Atari for about two and a half years. He was the programmer of The Learning Phone, the PLATO terminal for Atari 8-bit computers. Before that, he worked with PLATO at the University of Illinois, then in California for Control Data Corporation. PLATO was the first generalized computer-assisted instruction system, a groundbreaking graphical client-server computer system aimed at education.   To assist in this interview, I was joined by Thomas Cherryhomes and Michael Sternberg, who were on a road trip to a Vintage Computer Festival conference. In 2018, Tom Cherryhomes created IRATA.ONLINE, a modern working version of the PLATO server and terminals. Michael Sternberg helped reverse engineer the Atari PLATO cartridge for that project.   This interview took place on September 10, 2026. Video version of this interview 1984 "PLATO Rising" article in Antic magazine The Learning Phone review in ANALOG Computing magazine The Friendly Orange Glow: The Untold Story of the PLATO System and the Dawn of Cyberculture Computer History Museum PLATO@50: PLATO Computer Learning System 50th Anniversary IRATA.ONLINE, a modern PLATO server and terminals ATARI PLATO Users Guide version 3.1 (1983) ANTIC Episode 49 – Thomas Cherryhomes and PLATO ANTIC Interview 10 – Mark Rustad ANTIC Interview 117 – Landon Dyer ANTIC Interview 183 – Lane Winner Early versions of Atari PLATO released PLATO on Wikipedia Vince Wu – Follow the Arc of Justice Vincent Wu's birthday memories—jailed at Selma in 1965, worked security for MLK at the March finale

  5. Sep 13

    ANTIC Interview 464 - Walt Klappert, Atari Advanced Development Group

    Walt Klappert, Atari Advanced Development Group/WCI Labs Walt Klappert worked at Atari's Advanced Development Group/WCI Labs in New York, and later at Take One Enterprises in California. He worked with Nancy and Steve Mayer on a variety of projects with a concentration on creating software for girls. He is credited as Director of "Fisher Price Dance Fantasy", a dance choreography game for small children. He also worked on a system for authoring CD+G, an enhancement to the compact disc spec that allowed graphics and lyrics to be displayed synchronized with music. This interview took place on August 14, 2026. Video version of this interview Walt's YouTube page Dance Fantasy at AtariMania  ANTIC Interview 65 - Steve Mayer, 400/800 Designer

  6. Sep 10

    ANTIC Episode 130 - The Tongue-Twister Episode

    ANTIC Episode 130 - The Tongue-Twister Episode In this episode of ANTIC The Atari 8-Bit Computer Podcast… We trip all over our own tongues trying to bring you all the news fit to print in the Atari 8-bit computer world… READY! Recurring Links  Floppy Days Podcast  AtariArchives.org  AtariMagazines.com  Kay's Book "Terrible Nerd"  New Atari books scans at archive.org  ANTIC feedback at AtariAge  Atari interview discussion thread on AtariAge  Interview index: here  ANTIC Facebook Page  AHCS  Eaten By a Grue  Next Without For  What we've been up to Diskmenu manual - archive.org/details/apx-diskmenu-manual  30th anniversary of Classic Computer Magazine Archive - AtariMagazines.com:  Discussion - https://forums.atariage.com/topic/391744-30th-anniversary-of-classic-computer-magazine-archive/  Atari Yahoo Groups archives: https://archive.org/details/@savetz?query=atari+yahoo+group  https://archive.org/details/@savetz?query=identifier%3Ayahoo-group*&and%5B%5D=mediatype%3A%22texts%22  Atari Usenet group archive additions - https://archive.org/details/ANTIC_podcast_extras?tab=collection&query=usenet  MPP MicroportXL board manual - https://archive.org/details/Supra_Microport-XL_for_Atari_manual  New Atari Legacy magazine -  ​​https://atarilegacy.com/  Recent Interview Shows  Interview index:  here  https://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/antic-interview-459-mike-lorenzen-atari-program-text-editor-pitfall-ii  https://ataripodcast.libsyn.com/antic-interview-460-tim-jenkins-cheating-at-roulette  ANTIC Interview 461 - James W. Burley, APX Data Base/Report System  ANTIC Interview 462 - Bob Fraser, APX Insomnia, Supersort, De Re Atari  https://forums.atariage.com/topic/392145-bob-fraser-disk-trove/  New & Updated Games AstroSmasher!, Atari 8-bit computer game made with AI inspired by Intellivision's classic title Astrosmash! - by gimmee99 -  https://forums.atariage.com/topic/391594-saturday-fun-astrosmasher/  Texas Hold 'Em - MultiPlayer Game by MassiveRobot - https://forums.atariage.com/topic/391615-texas-hold-em-multiplayer-game/  FujiRealm Playable Demo MORPG Released for FujiNet by mozzwald - https://forums.atariage.com/topic/391580-fujirealm-playable-demo-morpg-released-for-fujinet/  New & Updated Software FujiLink — A FujiNet Driver for SpartaDOS X 4.50 by Piotr D. Kaczorowski - https://forums.atariage.com/topic/391472-fujilink-%E2%80%94-a-fujinet-driver-for-spartados-x-450/  Kat5200 emulator - https://t.co/HH0p6DtNaO  Mailbox protocol adapter with GMAIL and IMAPS support by Thom Cherryhomes - https://forums.atariage.com/topic/391551-mailbox-protocol-adapter-with-gmail-and-imaps-support/  FujiGPT - an LLM client for Atari FujiNet by HanJammer: https://forums.atariage.com/topic/391346-fujigpt-an-llm-client-for-atari-fujinet/  https://github.com/HanJammer/FujiGPT  ATRaction – ATR/XFD image manager - https://forums.atariage.com/topic/392013-atraction-%E2%80%93-atrxfd-image-manager/  d/BASIC for d/OS - Raj S Madugula - https://forums.atariage.com/topic/392300-intro-to-king-dos-atari-130xe-a8picocart-and-me-60fps/  Publications Atari Insights - https://www.ataribasics.com  Compute's Gazette - https://www.computesgazette.com  End of the rainbow https://amzn.to/3RZSV6z  Atari Projects:  https://atariprojects.org/2026/06/28/benchmark-your-atari-8-bit-computers-using-basic-15-30-mins/  https://atariprojects.org/2026/07/04/learn-about-scanlines-using-peek-in-atari-basic-5-10-mins/  https://blog.archive.org/2026/08/27/a-computer-history-time-capsule/  New & Updated Hardware JUST_POKEY from Lotharek: https://forums.atariage.com/topic/391270-just_pokey-from-lotharek/  https://lotharek.pl/productdetail.php?id=431  The Company That Calls Itself Atari https://kotaku.com/atari-and-universal-sign-movie-deal-for-10-video-game-adaptations-including-pong-asteroids-and-missile-command-2000719087  Other Jeffrey Stanton died  https://smmirror.com/jeffrey-stanton-leading-venice-beach-historian-who-authored-coney-island-of-the-pacific-passes-away-at-79/  https://www.atariarchives.org/agagd/  Tom Hudson - https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/legacyremembers/thomas-hudson-obituary?id=54708986 FujiNet NOS Introduction Video (YouTube) by Thom Cherryhomes: https://forums.atariage.com/topic/391452-fujinet-nos-introduction-video-youtube/  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-1PJEkK2ck  FujiNet NOS Introduction PDF - https://forums.atariage.com/topic/391386-fujinet-nos-introduction-pdf/  FujiNet Programmer's Guide PDF - https://forums.atariage.com/topic/391365-fujinet-programmers-guide-pdf/  If you would like to receive regular FujiNet updates, please consider subscribing to fujinews.substack.com All user manuals are available on this page: fujinet.online/getting-started. For your convenience, here are direct links to each manual here: FujiNet for Atari Owner's Guide  FujiNet NOS (for Atari) (Introduction to the FujiNet Network Operating System)  FujiNet for Apple II Getting Started Guide  FujiNet for Coleco ADAM Set-Up Manual  FujiNet for Tandy Color Computer Getting Started Manual  FujiNet for RS232 on MS-DOS Guide to Operations  Brewing Academy back in business: https://forums.atariage.com/topic/390695-all-brewing-academy-inventory-is-being-sold-please-read-for-details/ Soft launched with a lot of the easier products – TheBrewingacademy.com is up and running! Atarimania update: https://forums.atariage.com/topic/392305-new-atarimania We are happy to announce the launch of the new version of Atarimania! https://atariprojects.org/2026/08/23/explore-the-new-atarimania-website-10-15-mins/  Upcoming Shows Vintage Computer Festival GB 2026 - September 11-13 - Aintree Racecourse, near Liverpool, United Kingdom - https://www.facebook.com/events/25457837877216829/  Vintage Computer Festival Midwest - September 12-13 -  Schaumburg Convention Center in Schaumburg, IL - https://vcfmw.org/  Portland Retro Gaming Expo - October 9-11 - Oregon Convention Center, Portland, OR - https://retrogamingexpo.com/  VCF Montreal - November 7-8 - Champlain College Saint-Lambert, Saint-Lambert, QC - https://cvcfed.org/vcf-montreal-2-0/  YouTube Videos Messy Atari 800XL comes in for a refit - FlashJazzCat - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPfGf8xbkBg  Level demo by Agenda (Atari 8-bit computers) - Philsan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4rid6qTsGw  The Atari Console You've Probably Never Seen - RETRO is the new black (Wolfgang Kierdorf) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gYwQssg6eQ  AUTCODE Invaders👾 A Space Invaders-inspired shooter for Atari 8-bit - atariteca - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXHkXRLyXMg  New at Archive.org  https://archive.org/details/mag-the-australian-atari-gazette-91-03 https://archive.org/details/xio-3-garden-city-atari-computer-enthusiasts-newsletter-march-april-1996 https://archive.org/details/Computer-Shopper-February-1985 https://archive.org/details/computer-shopper-march-1985-images https://archive.org/details/Computer-Shopper-April-1985/ https://archive.org/details/Computer-Shopper-July-1985/ https://archive.org/details/computer-shopper-july-1986-images https://archive.org/details/computer-shopper-august-1986  https://archive.org/details/gcp-lordsofspace_202608/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/gcp-cyberworld/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/gcp-biowar/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/atari-8-bit-program-listing/ New at Github https://github.com/HanJammer/FujiATC  https://github.com/grzes71/atari-font-maker https://github.com/jhonnaker1/8x8-Trek https://github.com/JeremyJStarcher/yahtzee-a8 https://github.com/grzes71/dziki-zgon  https://github.com/tebe6502/GIF-Viewer-VBXE https://github.com/slaapliedje/ur https://github.com/sarnau/Atari-Jumpman https://github.com/grzes71/py-image-converter https://github.com/vincentlauriat/SpaceInvaders https://github.com/grzegorzzyla/NG-atariATR https://github.com/pdavis68/AtariHacker https://github.com/brad-colbert/atari-xex-memory-analyzer https://github.com/dillera/8bitlife https://github.com/HanJammer/FujiGPT https://github.com/supurloop/farmsquad  Feedback https://www.orphanedgames.com/  three articles can all be read here: The Legend of Pitfall Harry From the VCS to the PC Pitfall Update: Pitfall III Pitfall Update: The End of the Secret Level! What the original newsletter looked like in 1998 - OC&GS, Vol. II, #4 (June 1998)

  7. Aug 30

    ANTIC Interview 463 - Steve Bryson, game programmer

    Steve Bryson, game programmer Steve Bryson was a programmer for EPYX and The Connelley Group, where he ported many games to various 8-bit systems. He ported Dragonriders of Pern, an action/strategy game based on the Anne McCaffrey novels, to Atari and Commodore 64. He ported Jumpman to the Apple II, and Lower Reaches of Apshai, Upper Reaches of Apshai, and Temple of Ra to the C64. This interview took place on August 5, 2026. Video version of this interview: https://youtu.be/SdK56W9bd6Y Steve's personal web site: https://www.stevepur.com Randy Glover, Jumpman interview: https://www.savetz.com/antic-interviews/transcripts/i171/i171-transcript.html Tom Zimmerman, AMY chip interview: https://www.savetz.com/antic-interviews/transcripts/i431/i431-transcript.html Jon Freeman, Freefall Associates interview: https://www.savetz.com/antic-interviews/transcripts/i070/i070-transcript.html Dragonriders of Pern at Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/a8b_Dragonriders_of_Pern_The_1983_Epyx_US Dragonriders of Pern at AtariMania: https://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-dragonriders-of-pern_1723.html

  8. Aug 15

    ANTIC Interview 462 - Bob Fraser, APX Insomnia, Supersort, De Re Atari

    Bob Fraser, APX Insomnia, Supersort, De Re Atari   Bob Fraser worked at Atari for four years: he worked on the early CX70 light pen, helped write the specs for an unreleased database manager for the Atari 8-bits. and later moved into Atari's Games Design Research Group under Alan Kay, where he experimented with 3-D graphics. He wrote a chapter of De Re Atari — chapter 7, all about sound — and two applications that were published by Atari Program Exchange: Supersort, a data sorting routine; and Insomnia, a sound editor. Supersort was APX catalog number 20030, and was for sale starting with the first APX catalog, summer 1981. Insomnia was catalog number 20073 and was available about six months later in the winter 1981 catalog. The CX70 light pen: it's rare — according to AtariWiki, it was only offered by Atari for a few months in 1981. After our interview, Bob sent me his: prototype #2. He also sent me a lot of floppy disks (around 70) which I was able to get the data off of. They include many of his 3-D rendering demonstrations, source code for an early version of the Ballsong demo, several early versions of Mike Lorenzen's MEDIT text editor, light pen software, internal development tools, and more. I've put them all online, have fun digging through them. This interview took place on June 10, 2026. Video version of this interview Download Bob's disks, and conversation about them Supersort in the summer 1981 APX catalog Supersort at Atarimania Insomnia in the winter 1981 APX catalog Insomnia at Atarimania  De Re Atari CX70 Light Pen at AtariWiki CX70 discussion at AtariAge Invest like a Billionaire by Bob Fraser Dale Yocum interview Chris Crawford interview Douglas Crockford interview

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