Recurring Character

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A podcast about the roles we never stop playing. recurringcharacter.substack.com

Episodes

  1. Oct 16

    #12: The Uncomplex Character w/ David McGovern

    Today I’m joined by my friend David McGovern, a writer and theatre-maker based in Dublin. We make a case for the Uncomplex Character: a composed, unbothered, private person who has no problem being misunderstood. In fact, they delight in it. To set the scene, David and I remember the ‘complex female characters’ of the 2010s whose messy bedrooms and oozing relatability we are so over. We also have beef over Beef, make our stance on the traumatic backstory very clear, pay tribute to our forefathers Samantha Jones and Joanna Lumley, and predict a number of cultural shifts: from being seen to unseen, anxious to avoidant, deep to shallow. We also tell you where to find these characters – from video games to Booker-winning literature, the outskirts of a friendship group to a women’s prison in the 1920s – and give tips on how you, too, can become one. Check out David’s website and follow him on Instagram! Show Notes: Sex and the City (1998–2004) The Sopranos (1999–2007) The Art of Being Unreachable by Alexis McElroy Do you feel like a person? by Nicola Dinan for Polyester Outline by Rachel Cusk Intimacies by Katie Kitamura Flesh by David Szalay Elif Batuman on Flesh The Drama (2026) Beef (2023–26) Beef, The Drama and the New Marriage Plot by Critics At Large Fleabag (2016–19) Adjacent Characters: the Eternal Adolescent; the Diarist; the Airhead Canon Event: Jemima Kirke and Joanna Lumley change our brain chemistry Backrooms (2026) Chicago (2002) Other Uncomplex Characters mentioned: Claire Underwood in House of Cards, Super Hans in Peep Show, Kramer in Seinfeld, Diane Lockhart in The Good Wife, Elle Woods in Legally Blonde, Big in Sex and the City The Stupidity Report by Protein Regularmaxxing, or Gen Z discover routine Caroline and Dolly on Sentimental in the City

    #12: The Uncomplex Character w/ David McGovern
  2. Jul 5

    #10: The English Eccentric w/ Sebastian Lloyd

    I’m joined by Sebastian Lloyd, a writer from South London, to ask the question: is Englishness inherently weird? We discuss how Britain’s colonial hangover has shaped the ‘plucky’ national character, whether Dunkirk is the Roman Empire for blokes, and how TikTok is complicating neurodiversity discourse. Along the way, we stop to take shots at Seb’s old workplace, Noel Fielding, the entirety of Soho, Francis Bourgeois, and Brexit. We also dig into real-life London eccentrics, such as Hackney’s mole man and a Nunhead Elvis impersonator, characters who appear to answer a generational yearning for Authentic Community™ in a city at the mercy of American sweet shops, noise complaints, and slop bowl salad bars. Show Notes: Pinterest BoardThe English Eccentrics by Edith SitwellSeb’s Substack post on Steve BennettHenry Paget / Madfabulous (2026)The Mole Man of Hackney / Karen Russo Paddy Power World Cup advertAdjacent characters: The Free Spirit, The Branded CoupleRethinking Eccentricity by Miranda GillSoho eccentrics: Philip Sallon & Thierry AlexandreJonathan Nunn on ‘Sohoification’Eccentric Soho spots: All Is Joy, Bradley’s Spanish Bar & Bar ItaliaThe Mighty Boosh (2003–2007)Withnail & I (1987)Wallace & Gromit (1989–Present)Gromit’s upcoming autobiographyRichard E. Grant’s InstagramSaltburn (2023)SpaceX goes publicScrapheap Challenge (1998–2010)Poetry and the Turning World: Work by the LRB Francis BourgeoisMission to Space with Francis Bourgeois (2026)Noel Fielding on Talk ArtBritish eccentricity is dying out by the TelegraphThe King of SE15 (2021)New York NicoThere Ain’t No Black in the Union Jack by Paul Gilroy (1991)Year of the Rat by Harry Shukman (2025)VittlesCaffs not Cafes and Wooden City by Isaac Rangaswami

    #10: The English Eccentric w/ Sebastian Lloyd

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