Lexpo Talks

Hidde Bruinsma

Lexpo Talks examines the ways technology is reshaping the legal profession. Host Ruben Havertz sits down with founders, general counsels and innovators who are redefining how lawyers think, work and lead in an era driven by AI. The emphasis is on genuine experiences rather than buzz. Guests open up about what succeeds, what falls short and how legal teams can hold on to their humanity while preparing for what's next. If you're curious about where law and technology actually intersect, this is where that conversation begins. Want me to try a few alternative tones as well for example a punchier, shorter version or a more formal one? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Episodes

  1. Jul 23

    Margarida Saragoça: Why do lawyers resist innovation? | S01E03

    Legal innovation is not something you decree. Margarida Saragoça spent ten years building it into VdA, one habit at a time. She is Business & Knowledge Director at VdA, the Portuguese firm the Financial Times has repeatedly named the most innovative in continental Europe. She practised law for fifteen years, moved in-house at Vodafone, and came back to run the business side of the firm, where legal innovation is one of six units she leads. Recorded on location at Lexpo in Amsterdam, this is legal innovation without the slide deck. Why the profession trains lawyers to avoid risk, error and anyone more senior. Why partners are not prepared for the pricing conversation AI is forcing on them. What happens to your best people when efficiency makes them less billable. Margarida is blunt about the billable hour. She is blunter about the one thing she thinks should never be handed to a machine. You'll learn why lawyers are trained in a way that works against legal innovationhow a firm builds innovation into daily habits instead of projectswhat Margarida thinks will finally break the billable hourwhy partners should not lead the pricing conversation on their ownhow a small market like Portugal pushed VdA ahead of much bigger firmswhat she believes should never be handed over to AI ___ Lexpo Talks is a production of Lexpo and Recht in je Oor, recorded on location at Lexpo in Amsterdam. Lexpo: https://lexpo.com ___ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Margarida Saragoça: Why do lawyers resist innovation? | S01E03
  2. Jul 6

    Daniel Pollick - on AI, Innovation and the Human Advantage in Legal

    Recorded just hours before he took the Lexpo stage in Amsterdam, this episode features Daniel Pollick, who spent more than two decades as global CIO of DLA Piper and four years in the same role at DWF Group. He delivered the opening keynote at the very first Lexpo back in 2016, and now, at the tenth anniversary edition themed "The Human Advantage", he returns to grade his own predictions a decade later. In this conversation with host Ruben Havertz, Daniel looks back not just to keep score, but to use those old forecasts as a way of mapping what has actually changed in legal technology over ten years. He is candid about the calls he got badly wrong, generous about why the wins were often just stating the obvious, and refreshingly sceptical about the hype cycle the industry is living through right now. Having stepped back from the global firm world into advisory work, startup boards and university research, he speaks with the freedom of someone who no longer has to defend a tech stack. What makes this story striking is the vantage point. This is not a vendor selling a future, but a retired CIO who has watched innovation arrive, disappoint, and arrive again. Daniel digs into why the magic of new tools is the easy part, and why the dull, methodical work of change is what actually determines whether anything sticks: Why predictions are most useful not as a right or wrong scorecard, but as a way to see how the conversation itself has moved over ten yearsThe call he underestimated, computers mastering unstructured data, and the one he got "horribly wrong", betting big on virtual reality, because as he puts it people don't really like wearing things on their facesWhy his prediction that AI would be doing the admin by 2030 turned out to be wrong on the downside rather than the upside, and now barely counts as a clever forecast at allWhy it was never fair to blame only the lawyers for blocking innovation, since IT, finance and marketing all own a share of the resistanceHow the exciting, sexy tech work drifted out of IT departments into separate innovation functions, partly because CIOs were too slow to lead, and what gets lost when that happensThe risk that the unglamorous disciplines of change, meaning project and programme management, governance, compliance and adoption, are being forgotten in the rush toward the magicWhy innovation cannot be run from an ivory tower, why the practitioner with the light bulb moment is the one who makes change stick, and the trade off of fragmentation that decentralisation bringsWhy the most successful tech driven law firms of the future may be brand new businesses with a completely different culture from today's change resistant, partner centric modelsWhy the current flood of disconnected AI tools echoes the dot com boom and even the railway age, where incompatible track gauges eventually had to shake themselves out over a long cycleWhy legal will likely consolidate around a few dominant AI platforms, yet still see huge proliferation, driven by herd mentality and FOMO investmentWhy "the legal sector" is a misleading idea, because there are a million kinds of legal work, and what the top 50 firms do tells you almost nothing about everyone elseWhy buy versus build is a false dichotomy, why single purpose off the shelf tools will be among the big wins of the next few years, and why law firms remain bad at large build your own bets Daniel offers a grounded, slightly contrarian take on where legal technology actually stands. The human dimension, meaning culture, resistance, inventiveness and the willingness to adopt, is what will matter most for the foreseeable future, no matter how clever the machines get. ___ Lexpo Talks is a production of Lexpo and Recht in je Oor, recorded on location at Lexpo in Amsterdam. Lexpo: https://lexpo.com ___ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Daniel Pollick - on AI, Innovation and the Human Advantage in Legal

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Lexpo Talks examines the ways technology is reshaping the legal profession. Host Ruben Havertz sits down with founders, general counsels and innovators who are redefining how lawyers think, work and lead in an era driven by AI. The emphasis is on genuine experiences rather than buzz. Guests open up about what succeeds, what falls short and how legal teams can hold on to their humanity while preparing for what's next. If you're curious about where law and technology actually intersect, this is where that conversation begins. Want me to try a few alternative tones as well for example a punchier, shorter version or a more formal one? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.