Built on Solid Rock Podcast

John Chisham and Shaun Boen
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Built on Solid Rock Podcast is where business, leadership, recruiting, and entrepreneurship come together. Hosted by Shaun Boen and John Chisham, each episode delivers honest conversations, practical insights, and hard-earned lessons on building better businesses, stronger teams, and lasting success. From hiring and leadership to culture, resilience, customer service, and growth, we equip business owners, entrepreneurs, recruiters, and leaders with ideas they can put to work immediately. No corporate fluff. Just real conversations about building businesses and people the right way.

Episodes

  1. 18h ago

    Leadership is Lonely- but Stay in the Fight

    Leadership Is LonelyThe Weight Nobody Sees Everyone wants to be the leader. Few people want the weight that comes with it. From the outside, leadership often looks glamorous. People see the title, the office, the freedom, the paycheck, or the success. What they don't see are the sleepless nights, the difficult conversations, the financial pressure, or the constant responsibility. Leadership isn't lonely because people don't surround you. It's lonely because there are very few people who truly understand what you're carrying. That's what Shaun Boen and I unpack in Episode 11 of the Built on Solid Rock Podcast. The Higher You Climb, the Smaller the Circle Every promotion changes your relationships. As a leader, there are conversations you simply can't have anymore. You can't vent to your employees about another employee. You can't share every financial concern. You can't always explain every decision. You can't allow your uncertainty to become everyone else's fear. The higher you climb, the fewer people understand what you're carrying. Leadership often means smiling through burdens that no one else even knows exist. The Decisions Nobody Applauds The hardest leadership decisions rarely receive applause. Hiring someone. Letting someone go. Saying no to an opportunity. Choosing long-term health over short-term comfort. Protecting the company instead of protecting your popularity. Employees often see the outcome. Leaders live through the process. Sometimes you'll make the right decision and still lose friendships. Sometimes you'll do everything you can for someone, only to become the villain in their story. Leadership requires making peace with being misunderstood. The Paycheck Is Public. The Pressure Is Private. People often assume successful business owners have it easy. They see revenue. They don't see payroll. They see growth. They don't see the personal guarantees signed with the bank. They see confidence. They don't see the nights wondering how everyone will get paid if business slows down. Every entrepreneur knows this feeling. When business is thriving, everyone celebrates. When business struggles, the leader carries the burden first. No one worries about your paycheck quite like you do. Because you're worried about everyone else's first. There Is No One to Talk To One of the hardest realities of leadership is discovering there are very few people you can truly unload on. Your employees need confidence. Your customers need stability. Your family deserves your presence. Your partners may be carrying the same burdens you are. Many leaders quietly carry enormous pressure because they don't want to become someone else's burden. That's why intentional relationships with other leaders matter so much. Not people who envy leadership. People who live it. Because only another leader understands what leadership costs. Leadership Is Choosing Responsibility Over Comfort Leadership isn't about having all the answers. It's about accepting responsibility when no one else can. When projects fail... When markets change... When people leave... When mistakes happen... The leader owns it. That's not weakness. That's leadership. Real leaders don't look for someone to blame. They look for solutions. Why It's Still Worth It If leadership is so lonely, why do it? Because leadership gives you the opportunity to build something that outlives you. You create jobs. You develop people. You solve problems. You create opportunities for families you'll never fully know. You help someone discover gifts they didn't know they possessed. The sacrifices are real. But so is the impact. Final Thoughts Leadership isn't easy. It was never supposed to be. The weight is heavy. The responsibility is constant. The loneliness is real. But every thriving company, every great culture, every meaningful organization exists because someone chose responsibility over comfort. If you're carrying that weight today, you're not alone. Other leaders understand. Keep building. Keep serving. Keep leading. Because the world needs more people willing to carry responsibility instead of running from it. Listen to Episode 11, "Leadership Is Lonely," on the Built on Solid Rock Podcast at https://builtonsolidrock.buzzsprout.com or follow us on your favorite podcast platform. Send us Fan Mail Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe to Built on Solid Rock Podcast so you never miss a conversation on business, leadership, hiring, recruiting, and entrepreneurship.  Follow us on LinkedIn for more insights, clips, and updates:  Podcast Page Company Page John Chisham Shaun Boen Visit HERE for all episodes, blogs, and resources to help you build better businesses and better teams. Visit HERE for information about current job openings on our team. Visit HERE for information on how we help companies find the best talent in their industries. Visit HERE for information on how we help the best candidates find the perfect match for their future. Visit HERE for all of our current jobs we are recruiting for across the USA

    Leadership is Lonely- but Stay in the Fight

  2. Jul 20

    America 250: The Entrepreneur's Choice

    Is the American Dream still alive? As America approaches its 250th birthday, that question matters more than ever. Manufacturing is growing. Investment is returning. The World Cup was bigger and better than ever. Opportunity is everywhere for those willing to build. In Episode 10 of the Built on Solid Rock Podcast, Shaun and John tackle a bigger conversation than recruiting. We discuss entrepreneurship, relationships, opportunity, and why America still rewards people who solve problems. America wasn't built by people looking for guarantees. It was built by builders. If you're a business owner, entrepreneur, leader, or someone who believes the next great opportunity is still ahead, this episode is for you. Send us Fan Mail Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe to Built on Solid Rock Podcast so you never miss a conversation on business, leadership, hiring, recruiting, and entrepreneurship.  Follow us on LinkedIn for more insights, clips, and updates:  Podcast Page Company Page John Chisham Shaun Boen Visit HERE for all episodes, blogs, and resources to help you build better businesses and better teams. Visit HERE for information about current job openings on our team. Visit HERE for information on how we help companies find the best talent in their industries. Visit HERE for information on how we help the best candidates find the perfect match for their future. Visit HERE for all of our current jobs we are recruiting for across the USA

    America 250: The Entrepreneur's Choice

  3. Jul 14

    Stop Thinking Like an Employee

    Stop Thinking Like an Employee Built on Solid Rock Podcast – Episode 9 What separates people who build great businesses from those who simply work in them? It is not talent. It is not intelligence. It is not even experience. More often than not, it comes down to mindset. In Episode 9 of the Built on Solid Rock Podcast, Shaun and John discuss one of the biggest transitions every entrepreneur, leader, and business owner must make: the shift from thinking like an employee to thinking like a builder. Send us Fan Mail Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe to Built on Solid Rock Podcast so you never miss a conversation on business, leadership, hiring, recruiting, and entrepreneurship.  Follow us on LinkedIn for more insights, clips, and updates:  Podcast Page Company Page John Chisham Shaun Boen Visit HERE for all episodes, blogs, and resources to help you build better businesses and better teams. Visit HERE for information about current job openings on our team. Visit HERE for information on how we help companies find the best talent in their industries. Visit HERE for information on how we help the best candidates find the perfect match for their future. Visit HERE for all of our current jobs we are recruiting for across the USA

    Stop Thinking Like an Employee

  4. Jul 14

    One Bad Shot Won't Kill Your Career

    One Bad Shot Won't Kill Your CareerBuilt on Solid Rock Podcast – Episode 8 Golf is a brutal teacher. It exposes your mindset faster than almost anything else. One bad swing can ruin a hole- but it does not have to. One bad hole can ruin a round. In golf, if you let frustration take over, one bad moment can snowball into a complete collapse. Business works the same way. In Episode 8 of the Built on Solid Rock Podcast, Shaun and John break down the connection between golf, business, recruiting, and leadership through one simple principle: Play the shot in front of you. Too many people let one mistake define the next decision. A bad meeting. A lost deal. A failed hire. A rough quarter. Instead of resetting, they carry the frustration into the next opportunity and compound the damage. That is where careers stall. Not because of failure. Because of the inability to recover from it. The reality is this: one bad shot does not kill your career. But letting that shot control the next ten absolutely can. That is why resilience matters. Send us Fan Mail Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe to Built on Solid Rock Podcast so you never miss a conversation on business, leadership, hiring, recruiting, and entrepreneurship.  Follow us on LinkedIn for more insights, clips, and updates:  Podcast Page Company Page John Chisham Shaun Boen Visit HERE for all episodes, blogs, and resources to help you build better businesses and better teams. Visit HERE for information about current job openings on our team. Visit HERE for information on how we help companies find the best talent in their industries. Visit HERE for information on how we help the best candidates find the perfect match for their future. Visit HERE for all of our current jobs we are recruiting for across the USA

    One Bad Shot Won't Kill Your Career

  5. Jul 14

    The Hustle Mindset Without Burnout

    The Hustle Mindset Without BurnoutEveryone says hustle harder. Almost no one tells you what that actually means. And that is why most people burn out instead of breaking through. In the latest episode of the Built on Solid Rock Podcast, Shaun and John break down what hustle really is, what it is not, and why the people who succeed long term understand the difference between disciplined consistency and chaotic activity. Because hustle is not hype. It is not pretending to be busy. It is not posting about grinding while accomplishing nothing. And it is not running yourself into the ground trying to prove something. Real hustle is disciplined execution over time. It is doing the little things consistently when nobody is watching. It is making the extra call. Following up one more time. Showing up early. Staying prepared. Doing the unattractive work day after day until momentum finally shows up. That mindset is foundational to recruiting success. Solid Rock Recruiting training material describes hustle as “doing all the little, unattractive things on a consistent basis day in and day out.” That is the difference. Most people rely on motivation. Hustlers rely on process. Motivation comes and goes. Discipline does not. Send us Fan Mail Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe to Built on Solid Rock Podcast so you never miss a conversation on business, leadership, hiring, recruiting, and entrepreneurship.  Follow us on LinkedIn for more insights, clips, and updates:  Podcast Page Company Page John Chisham Shaun Boen Visit HERE for all episodes, blogs, and resources to help you build better businesses and better teams. Visit HERE for information about current job openings on our team. Visit HERE for information on how we help companies find the best talent in their industries. Visit HERE for information on how we help the best candidates find the perfect match for their future. Visit HERE for all of our current jobs we are recruiting for across the USA

    The Hustle Mindset Without Burnout

  6. Jul 14

    Don’t Hire This Person - Real Red Flags We've Seen

    Don’t Hire This Person Built on Solid Rock Podcast – Episode 6 Bad hires are not a surprise. They are predictable. The signs are there. Most companies just miss them. Or worse, ignore them. In Episode 6, “Don’t Hire This Person,” Shaun and John get direct about what actually leads to bad hires and how to spot the red flags before they cost you. Because they will cost you. Time. Money. Momentum. Culture. And we have all seen it play out in real time. In business. In leadership. Even in the media. When the wrong person is in the wrong seat, the results are obvious. This is a people business. And hiring is not an exact science. But that does not mean it is a guessing game. Good recruiters do not guess. They guide. Send us Fan Mail Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe to Built on Solid Rock Podcast so you never miss a conversation on business, leadership, hiring, recruiting, and entrepreneurship.  Follow us on LinkedIn for more insights, clips, and updates:  Podcast Page Company Page John Chisham Shaun Boen Visit HERE for all episodes, blogs, and resources to help you build better businesses and better teams. Visit HERE for information about current job openings on our team. Visit HERE for information on how we help companies find the best talent in their industries. Visit HERE for information on how we help the best candidates find the perfect match for their future. Visit HERE for all of our current jobs we are recruiting for across the USA

    Don’t Hire This Person - Real Red Flags We've Seen

  7. Jul 14

    AI Can Read Resumes, It can't read People

    AI Can Read Resumes. It Can’t Read People. Built on Solid Rock Podcast – Episode 5 Artificial Intelligence is everywhere right now. In recruiting, it’s changing the game—faster searches, automated outreach, resume screening in seconds. What used to take hours now takes minutes. And that’s a good thing. But here’s the truth we talk about in Episode 5 of the Built on Solid Rock Podcast: AI can read resumes. It can’t read people. Send us Fan Mail Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe to Built on Solid Rock Podcast so you never miss a conversation on business, leadership, hiring, recruiting, and entrepreneurship.  Follow us on LinkedIn for more insights, clips, and updates:  Podcast Page Company Page John Chisham Shaun Boen Visit HERE for all episodes, blogs, and resources to help you build better businesses and better teams. Visit HERE for information about current job openings on our team. Visit HERE for information on how we help companies find the best talent in their industries. Visit HERE for information on how we help the best candidates find the perfect match for their future. Visit HERE for all of our current jobs we are recruiting for across the USA

    AI Can Read Resumes, It can't read People

  8. Jul 14

    Death, Taxes, and Bad Hires

    Death, Taxes, and Bad HiresWhy the Right Hiring Strategy Changes Everything There are a few things in business you can count on. Death. Taxes. And if you are not intentional about hiring… bad hires. In our latest Built on Solid Rock podcast episode, “Death, Taxes, and Bad Hires,” we break down a reality most business owners learn the hard way: Hiring is not just an HR function. It is one of the most important business decisions you will make. Send us Fan Mail Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe to Built on Solid Rock Podcast so you never miss a conversation on business, leadership, hiring, recruiting, and entrepreneurship.  Follow us on LinkedIn for more insights, clips, and updates:  Podcast Page Company Page John Chisham Shaun Boen Visit HERE for all episodes, blogs, and resources to help you build better businesses and better teams. Visit HERE for information about current job openings on our team. Visit HERE for information on how we help companies find the best talent in their industries. Visit HERE for information on how we help the best candidates find the perfect match for their future. Visit HERE for all of our current jobs we are recruiting for across the USA

    Death, Taxes, and Bad Hires

  9. Jul 14

    People over Placements

    People Over Placements The Solid Rock Recruiting PhilosophyIn an industry obsessed with metrics, spreads, ratios, and revenue per desk, it is easy to forget something simple. Recruiting is about people. Not placements. Not inventory. Not transactions. People. Our latest Built on Solid Rock podcast episode, “People Over Placements,” dives into the philosophy that defines Solid Rock Recruiting: relationship recruiting. When you prioritize people, placements follow. Candidates Are Not Inventory Somewhere along the way, parts of this industry started using language that reveals mindset. Inventory. Assets. Units. Headcount. That language may sound efficient. It may sound business minded. But it strips away humanity. A candidate is not inventory. They are someone’s spouse. Someone’s parent. Someone with goals, fears, dreams, and responsibilities. A career move is not a SKU on a shelf. It is a life decision. When recruiters treat candidates like product, trust disappears. Without trust, you do not have a business. You have transactions. At Solid Rock, we do not move inventory. We guide people through life changing decisions. Send us Fan Mail Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe to Built on Solid Rock Podcast so you never miss a conversation on business, leadership, hiring, recruiting, and entrepreneurship.  Follow us on LinkedIn for more insights, clips, and updates:  Podcast Page Company Page John Chisham Shaun Boen Visit HERE for all episodes, blogs, and resources to help you build better businesses and better teams. Visit HERE for information about current job openings on our team. Visit HERE for information on how we help companies find the best talent in their industries. Visit HERE for information on how we help the best candidates find the perfect match for their future. Visit HERE for all of our current jobs we are recruiting for across the USA

    People over Placements

  10. Jul 13

    Burn The Boats

    Built on Solid Rock – Episode 2: Burn the Boats Episode 2 of Built on Solid Rock tells the story of what happened after the decision was made. Episode 1 was about conviction: why we left. Episode 2 is about construction: how we built. When we stepped away from our former corporate recruiting firm, we didn’t just want freedom. We wanted structure. Not chaos. Not rebellion. Not reaction. We wanted to build a company by recruiters, for recruiters with intentional systems, clear processes, and real ownership. And we wanted to prove that high performance and strong values could coexist. Send us Fan Mail Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe to Built on Solid Rock Podcast so you never miss a conversation on business, leadership, hiring, recruiting, and entrepreneurship.  Follow us on LinkedIn for more insights, clips, and updates:  Podcast Page Company Page John Chisham Shaun Boen Visit HERE for all episodes, blogs, and resources to help you build better businesses and better teams. Visit HERE for information about current job openings on our team. Visit HERE for information on how we help companies find the best talent in their industries. Visit HERE for information on how we help the best candidates find the perfect match for their future. Visit HERE for all of our current jobs we are recruiting for across the USA

    Burn The Boats

  11. Jul 13

    "The Book Of Beginnings"

    Built on Solid Rock – Episode 1 The Book of Beginnings Two top-producing recruiters. Hundreds of placements. Millions in fees generated. So why walk away from a corporate firm? Because recruiting isn’t just a job. It’s a calling. In Episode 1 of Built on Solid Rock, we break down: • The moment we knew we had to leave • The mindset shift from employee to owner • What corporate recruiting gets wrong • Why Integrity. Honesty. Hustle. had to be more than just words This isn’t about drama. It’s about conviction. It’s about building something that lasts. If you’re a recruiter… an entrepreneur… or someone who knows there’s more in you — this episode is for you. Episode 1 is live. The beginning matters. Send us Fan Mail Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe to Built on Solid Rock Podcast so you never miss a conversation on business, leadership, hiring, recruiting, and entrepreneurship.  Follow us on LinkedIn for more insights, clips, and updates:  Podcast Page Company Page John Chisham Shaun Boen Visit HERE for all episodes, blogs, and resources to help you build better businesses and better teams. Visit HERE for information about current job openings on our team. Visit HERE for information on how we help companies find the best talent in their industries. Visit HERE for information on how we help the best candidates find the perfect match for their future. Visit HERE for all of our current jobs we are recruiting for across the USA

    "The Book Of Beginnings"
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Built on Solid Rock Podcast is where business, leadership, recruiting, and entrepreneurship come together. Hosted by Shaun Boen and John Chisham, each episode delivers honest conversations, practical insights, and hard-earned lessons on building better businesses, stronger teams, and lasting success. From hiring and leadership to culture, resilience, customer service, and growth, we equip business owners, entrepreneurs, recruiters, and leaders with ideas they can put to work immediately. No corporate fluff. Just real conversations about building businesses and people the right way.

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  • Creator
    John Chisham and Shaun Boen
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    11
  • Rating
    Clean
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