The Thinking Teams Podcast

Jason Mills

The Thinking Teams Podcast, hosted by Jason Mills, explores leadership, the future of theological education, and invites leaders to talk about what it takes to lead thoughtful people and diverse teams

Episodes

  1. Aug 14

    Dr. Bruce Fawcett, President of Crandall University, "The Fastest Growing University in Atlantic Canada" (Ep. 2)

    Summary Dr. Bruce Fawcett joins Jason Mills to reflect on 14 years leading Crandall University, a season that saw major enrollment growth, debt reduction, new programs, and a broader international reach. The conversation centers on how strong teams, clear mission, entrepreneurial thinking, and long-term stewardship can help a faith-based university grow in a challenging higher education landscape. In this episode, Bruce also traces Crandall’s history from its Baptist roots in 1838 to its present-day identity as a Christian university with students from around the world. He shares practical leadership lessons on hiring, board leadership, fundraising, succession, self-care, and what the next phase of Christian higher education may require. Timestamps 00:00 - Welcome, guest introduction, and Crandall’s recent growth story 02:13 - What explains Crandall’s success in a struggling sector 03:34 - The long history of Crandall University, from 1838 to today 08:48 - What makes Crandall distinct as a Christian university 10:41 - Why growth was still difficult after Bruce arrived 12:08 - COVID, online learning, and the recruitment impact 13:51 - Who thrives at Crandall as an undergraduate student 16:03 - Graduate programs and why they became growth engines 18:47 - How federal policy changes affected international enrollment 23:00 - How Bruce became president after earlier ties to the school 25:08 - What Bruce loves most about the presidency 27:38 - The hardest parts of leading a university for 14 years 31:57 - The donor moment that helped change Crandall’s trajectory 35:53 - Advice for the board and planning the next leadership transition 37:28 - Advice for Bruce’s successor on mission and adaptation 39:47 - What Bruce hopes Crandall will look like in five years 43:26 - Is Bruce really an entrepreneur in higher ed? 45:06 - Why Crandall intentionally does not accept government funds 46:23 - How to lead smart, opinionated people on a university team 48:50 - Starting with your end in mind as a leader 50:38 - Advice for schools that are still in survival mode 52:28 - What Bruce looks for when hiring his core team 54:36 - Crandall’s relationship with the church and the denomination 57:49 - Thoughts on congregational leadership and entrepreneurial ministry 60:13 - The most pressing issue on Bruce’s mind today 61:50 - The future of Christian higher education in Canada 66:17 - Self-care, longevity, and knowing when to step aside 68:46 - Oxford, sabbatical plans, and Bruce’s research focus

  2. Jul 31

    Dr. Paul Spilsbury, President of Regent College in Vancouver, B.C., Canada

    Summary Jason Mills talks with Dr. Paul Spilsbury, president of Regent College in Vancouver, about the college’s origins, its distinct approach to theological education, and the kind of leadership it takes to guide a transdenominational graduate school today. They also discuss Paul’s own journey from South Africa to academic leadership, plus what he hopes Regent will look and feel like in the years ahead. In this episode: Paul Spilsbury introduces Regent College as a graduate school of Christian studies shaped by a founding vision that elevated laypeople’s theological formation to the level of their professional training. He traces Regent’s beginnings in the 1960s, from Brethren business people in Vancouver to Jim Houston’s move from Oxford to help launch the school. The conversation explores Regent’s interdisciplinary character, including theology and the arts, marketplace theology, creation care, science, and biblical languages. Paul explains why Regent remains strongly in-person, with a cap of about 45 percent online coursework in any degree. He describes the type of student Regent serves best: serious learners who want deep academic engagement with Scripture, theology, and the Christian tradition. Paul shares his own path from Durban, South Africa, through Prairie Bible Institute, Cambridge, Canadian Bible College and Seminary, Ambrose University, and eventually back to Regent. He reflects on the move from academic dean to president and why he finds institutional nurturing, governance, and community-building so meaningful. The discussion covers Regent’s transdenominational identity and the work required to stay connected to churches without belonging to a single denomination. Paul outlines Regent’s leadership culture as one of shared governance, first among equals, and careful consensus-building among highly trained faculty. He closes with a vision of Regent as rooted in Scripture and the Christian tradition, yet alive with joy, scholarship, and public engagement. Whole people of God - Regent’s way of describing a formation model that serves both clergy and laity Rooted and alive - Paul’s guiding image for Regent’s future, grounded in tradition yet responsive to the present First among equals - The leadership posture he uses to describe the president’s role in an academic community Shared governance - Regent’s method for decision-making across faculty, administration, and board Timestamps: (00:00) Podcast introduction and why Regent College matters (00:33) Why Jason has admired Regent from afar (01:57) Regent’s founding vision and interdisciplinary identity (07:26) Why Regent did not begin as a typical pastor-training school (08:08) How Regent’s founding principles still shape the college (11:10) Why Regent stays mostly in person (14:13) What kind of student thrives at Regent (17:48) Paul’s personal journey into theology and leadership (21:40) How Paul came back to Regent as academic dean (23:40) What he loves about serving as president (25:55) A first-year highlight: steady mission and strong student intake (28:00) Seven fully funded chairs and what that signals about Regent (29:00) Financial pressures, international student caps, and generational transition (33:30) Traits Regent looks for in faculty and leaders (37:36) Regent’s relationship with churches and denominations (40:22) Leading a transdenominational faculty through shared governance (43:26) What Regent should feel like in five years (47:15) Paul’s unwritten book project on Josephus and the fall of Jerusalem

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The Thinking Teams Podcast, hosted by Jason Mills, explores leadership, the future of theological education, and invites leaders to talk about what it takes to lead thoughtful people and diverse teams