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Grace and Katy
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No notes, just us. A podcast with Grace Snively and Katy Goldstein.

  1. 5d ago

    Episode 13: Hormones

    Episode 13: Hormones Hormones, Perimenopause, and the Wild West of Women's Health Before diving into the main topic, Grace shares a Halloween highlight: her son Pierce trick-or-treated for the first time ever, walking up to houses solo and saying "trick or treat" on his own. Katy recaps her own cozy Halloween — homemade pumpkin cookies (made with apple butter as an accidental substitute), chili with neighbors, and her daughter collecting Sour Patch Kids door to door just for her. From there, the two dig into something they realize they can't stop talking about lately: hormones. Katy shares an unusually irregular cycle after two years of normalcy and wonders out loud whether it's stress, perimenopause, or something else — prompting a real-time diagnostic conversation with Grace about fibroids, ultrasounds, and when to actually worry. Grace shares her own experience with a cluster of hot flashes earlier in the year, brain fog tied to her cycle, and how tracking her hormones has helped her understand her ADHD symptoms intensifying. The conversation turns into a broader, frustrated look at how little research and support exists for women navigating perimenopause compared to other health issues — and how valuable it's been for each of them to have a friend to talk through it with. In this episode: ​Pierce's first time trick-or-treating and what regulation and connection looked like that night​Katy's irregular cycle after two years of normalcy, and the detective work of ruling things out​Grace's hot flashes, cycle-tracking, and ADHD symptoms intensifying with hormonal shifts​The glaring research gap around perimenopause compared to other areas of women's health​Lingering effects from Katy's thyroid eye disease treatment (Tepezza) on her hormones and cycle​Why having a friend to talk openly with about this stuff matters so muchWhat we're excited about: ​Katy: Wrapping up the fall Second Service book club and prepping a winter pick — The Other Side of Certainty — with 15 free copies to give away to paid subscribers​Grace: Her solo art exhibition opening this Saturday in Jacksonville, IL — 36 new pieces, an artist talk, and one of the biggest moments of her 15-year art career.

  2. Oct 29

    Episode 12: Halloween

    It’s Halloween week, and Katy and Grace are talking about it all: decorations, costumes, candy, and what to do with the holiday as a Christian. They share how their families celebrate, why neither of them loves trunk-or-treats, and Katy makes the case for leaving your porch light on and getting to know your neighbors. Then they catch up on what they’re each excited about right now: Grace’s solo art show and Katy’s upcoming episode with her brother. In this episode How each family does Halloween: Grace’s son runs a candy-delivery operation (dump truck and pipe included), while Katy’s girls dress up and run around with the neighbor kidsThe famous “Skelly House” in Katy’s subdivisionWhy Katy and Grace both dislike trunk-or-treats (one more thing on the calendar, and the assembly-line feel)Growing up in evangelicalism in the ’90s and early 2000s and the church’s response to HalloweenWhy Katy thinks Christians should keep the lights on and use Halloween to meet their neighborsGrace on being present instead of checking a box, and why none of this needs to be that seriousFavorite Halloween candy (Snickers, Reese’s, and a lot of love for sour candy)Costume updates: Glinda from Wicked and a ballerina princess, plus the dress-up life after Halloween What we’re excited about Grace: Her solo art show opens November 7 with 36 new paintings, two years in the making.Katy: An upcoming episode with her brother on why Christians should study history, coming mid-November. Mentioned in this episode Katy’s blog post, Leave the Lights On https://substack.com/@thetheologygirls/note/c-372069207?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=6b1744Weird Women series https://open.spotify.com/show/6CNWZlczJfO1bovB2J2vGJ?si=04322bb8b17c491e

  3. Oct 22

    Episode 11: Aging

    Katy and Grace tackle a topic they approach from opposite ends: aging. Katy is upfront that she rejects it outright — concerned with how her face, body, and style read as she gets older, and tracing some of that back to an unexpected identity shift after a health scare left her off birth control and facing a quieter, less pregnancy-centered relationship with her own body. Grace, by contrast, says she's more at peace with getting older than ever, even as she admits to a strange double standard: fully fine with visible wrinkles in person, but far more self-conscious seeing them on camera for work. The two dig into where they land on injections (both skeptical, though Grace trusts one friend who does it responsibly), hair dye (Katy's in forever, Grace's probably never), and how much less makeup they both wear now compared to their heavily-contoured twenties. They also get honest about body image from two very different starting points — Katy's frustration with weight that's harder to lose in her mid-30s, and Grace's quietly complicated relief at finally gaining weight after years of being unable to. The conversation closes with some real talk on strength training and aging well, backed by the book Younger Next Year. In this episode: ​Why Katy "rejects" aging while Grace feels more settled in her late 30s​A health scare that left Katy quietly grieving an unexpected identity shift​Injections, hair dye, and where they each land on preventative beauty treatments​How makeup trends — and how much they wear — have changed since their contouring days​Body image from two different vantage points: losing weight getting harder vs. finally gaining it​Why strength training matters more as you age, and the book Younger Next YearWhat we're excited about: ​Katy: The Weird Women series now live on the Theology Girls feed, plus limited-edition Weird Woman shirts​Grace: A major life shift — her husband's resignation after 21 years of teaching — opening up more time and flexibility for her businesses (and life) going forward

  4. Oct 15

    Episode 10: Getting Married Young

    Katy and Grace compare notes on getting married in their early twenties — Katy at 21 after meeting Jon just a week into her twenties, and Grace at 22, just two months after graduating college. Both reflect candidly on how age gaps with older husbands, evangelical purity culture, and the wedding industry of the early 2010s shaped their very different wedding days: Katy's large, 300-guest affair versus Grace's intimate, 120-person ceremony held in her parents' yard. The two dig into the real pros and cons of marrying young: the grounding feeling of having nearly two decades behind them with their spouses, versus not fully knowing who you are at 21 or 22 — and the importance of being willing to grow and change alongside your partner rather than apart from them. Katy opens up about the quieter emotional comedown after her wedding, tied to purity-culture expectations and birth control adjustments, while Grace shares why having a decade of marriage before having kids made all the difference once she and Adam began navigating life with a child with disabilities. In this episode: ​Katy and Grace's wedding timelines, ages, and how big (or small) their weddings were​How the early-2010s wedding industry and early Pinterest shaped their choices​The "post-wedding blues" and unmet expectations tied to purity culture​Pros and cons of marrying young: growing together vs. not knowing who you are yet​Why both couples waited years before having kids — and why they're grateful they did​How having a decade of marriage first helped them weather parenting a child with a disabilityWhat we're excited about: ​Grace: Serving as keynote speaker at Millikin University's Aspire conference, leading a workshop on creativity and avoiding burnout as a business owner​Katy: Reflecting on the success of Theology Girls Live — nearly 100 attendees, a dinner with Tara Beth Leach, and a standout night overall

  5. Oct 8

    Episode 9: Alcohol — Where We Land

    Episode 9: Alcohol — Where We Land Katy and Grace get candid about their very different relationships with alcohol, and the life experiences that shaped each of them. Grace shares that she's cut back significantly over the past two years, partly for health reasons, but also opens up about growing up with an alcoholic father and how that shaped her choices through high school and college. Katy, raised in a no-drinking Southern Baptist household, describes a wilder freshman year of college before settling into what she now considers a healthy, moderate relationship with alcohol — one she hopes models something different for her own kids. The conversation widens into bigger questions: why alcohol consumption among teens and young adults has dropped so sharply (hint: both think it's less about morality and more about isolation and phones), and whether opting out of drinking altogether — without a moral or health reason — can become a barrier to real community. Grace also shares a genuinely unsettling story about being drugged at a bar, which leads into a broader, honest conversation about the safety calculations women constantly have to make that men largely don't. They close by reflecting on alcohol's place in scripture and its role in building connection and celebration. In this episode: ​Grace's choice to drink less and how it's tied to her father's alcoholism​Katy's wild freshman year of college vs. her approach to alcohol now​Why teen and young-adult drinking rates are dropping — and what that might really mean​The tension between abstaining from alcohol and engaging with your community​Grace's story of being drugged at a bar, and the safety calculus women live with​Alcohol's role in scripture and in building real communityWhat we're excited about: ​Katy: Weird Women, the six-week Theology Girls podcast series launching October 13th​Grace: A shift in family circumstances giving her more breathing room and flexibility for work (more details to come)

  6. Oct 1

    Episode 8: Small Town Life

    Katy and Grace dig into something they both know intimately: leaving small towns and coming back to them. Grace grew up in a town of 1,200 people with no stoplight and a 30-minute drive for groceries, while Katy grew up on a farm outside a slightly bigger town — close enough to experience small-town culture, but far enough out that delivery pizza and walkable friendships were never an option. The two compare notes on the different flavors of "small town": rural farm-kid isolation versus in-town kid freedom, and how those early differences still show up in how well they know their way around their hometowns today. The conversation moves into why they each left for the city and ultimately came back — the deep community connections, the way everyone knows your kids (and looks out for them), and the tradeoffs that come with small-town living: grocery runs that require real planning, "food desert" pockets even in areas that aren't truly rural, and the extra commitment it takes to get anywhere. Both share how church and youth group shaped some of their best small-town memories, and where they each see themselves landing long-term — including the pull of family farmland and generational land decisions still unfolding for both of them. In this episode: ​Comparing childhoods: rural farm life vs. small in-town life​Why neither of them really knows their way around their hometown streets​The tradeoffs of small-town grocery shopping and "food deserts"​Youth group, church culture, and Dairy Queen as the social hub​Feeling safer and more supported raising a child with disabilities in a small town​Family farmland, inheritance conversations, and where "home" might be long-term​Would they ever move back to the city? (Spoiler: probably not)What we're excited about: ​Grace: A handwritten, mailed newsletter for DOMAS Studio — stories, class schedules, and at-home creativity tips sent the old-fashioned way​Katy: Theology Girls Live this Friday in St. Louis — featuring Tara Beth Leach, a Theology Girls Family Feud game, and local vendors

  7. Sep 24

    Episode 7: Business Origin Stories & Behind the Scenes

    Katy and Grace pull back the curtain on the businesses they run outside of No Notes — the wins, the burnout, and everything in between. Grace traces the nine-year journey of Grey House Goods, launched 20 weeks pregnant with zero retail experience and six pieces of clothing, all the way to opening DOMAS Studio out of a converted corner of her shop. Katy shares how Theology Girls grew from a group text and a joking Instagram handle into a weekly podcast, quarterly live events, and — as of this fall — a fully booked guest calendar that's forcing her to learn how to say no. The two get honest about the less glamorous side of entrepreneurship: the exhausting unpredictability of the social media algorithm, Facebook's new pay-to-post-links policy, and the strange sting of watching people you know see your content without ever engaging with it. They also swap real business tips — Grace's philosophy of showing up and serving people well even when the numbers are discouraging, and Katy's task-vs-project method for tackling a to-do list without getting stuck staring at it. In this episode: ​Grace's path from zero retail experience to nine years running Grey House Goods​How DOMAS Studio grew out of a therapeutic art class taught in the back of a clothing store​Katy's origin story for Theology Girls, from group text to podcast to sold-out events​The double-edged sword of being fully booked with guest requests​Social media burnout, algorithm changes, and Facebook's new link-posting fees​Wondering whether your content is "too much" for some of your own audience​Business tips: showing up with integrity vs. chasing numbers, and organizing a to-do list into tasks vs. projectsWhat we're excited about: ​Grace: DOMAS Studio's annual art show in its new building, featuring a community story-walk art project with an 8-foot hand-painted tree​Katy: New Theology Girls merch — Church Mothers shirts and Weird Women tees — ahead of the October 2nd live event

  8. Sep 17

    Episode 6: Sleep Training (Or Not)

    Katy and Grace tackle a topic they know will spark some strong opinions: sleep training. The two land on opposite ends of the spectrum, and they're upfront about it from the start. Katy shares her unfiltered first-week-home experience — no plan, no prep, postpartum anxiety that peaked every evening as the sun went down — before eventually discovering Taking Cara Babies and following its program to the letter starting at four and a half months old. She walks through what the process actually looked like night by night, and how much smoother things went with her second daughter once she'd learned the ropes. Grace tells the other side: fully researched, fully prepared, and none of it worked. She and her husband leaned into co-sleeping and extended nursing as the only things that actually settled her son, later discovering that his sleep struggles were tied to nighttime seizures that went undiagnosed for years. The conversation turns into an honest, unresolved reflection on how differently kids' needs can look, how each of them found their footing as working moms in very different ways (rigid nap schedules vs. surrendering an afternoon to reality TV), and the judgment moms on both "sides" of this debate often carry for each other — even when everyone's just doing their best. In this episode: ​Katy's chaotic first week home and the anxiety that came with it​Discovering Taking Cara Babies and following a structured sleep-training plan​Why her second daughter needed little to no sleep training at all​Grace's fully-researched approach to co-sleeping and extended nursing​The medical ball naps, co-sleeping safety rules, and years of undiagnosed nighttime seizures​How each of them made room for work during naptime — completely differently​Letting go of judgment around other parents' choices What we're excited about: ​Grace: Fall buying season at Grey House Goods — new inventory arriving and hitting the floor​Katy: Weird Women, a six-week storytelling podcast series launching October 13th on the Theology Girls feed, featuring scholar Dr. Craig Keener and stories of women in ministry throughout church history

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No notes, just us. A podcast with Grace Snively and Katy Goldstein.

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  • Creator
    Grace and Katy
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    14
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Grace and Katy
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