Beneath the Scars with Zoe

Zoe Hethershaw

I’m Zoe Hethershaw—a holistic health practitioner, Reiki Master, author, and someone who has spent 17 years holding space for people through trauma, grief, loss, and life’s deepest wounds. After 15 years caring for some of our most vulnerable through my own healthcare company, I learned that there is always more beneath the surface. In Beneath the Scar, I investigate the wounds we carry, why they shape us, and how we heal. Through honest conversations with survivors and healers, we’ll explore the mother wound, father wound, rejection, boundaries, love, loss, and what it means to truly understa

Episodes

  1. 4d ago

    Episode 9 Fifty Shades of WTF

    Welcome back and this is Fifty Shades of WTF. Yes, that is actually the title, because if you’re over fifty, single, divorced, dating, thinking about dating, recovering from dating, or simply watching the whole dating world from a safe distance while wondering what the hell happened to people, you probably understand exactly where I’m coming from. Dating after fifty is a completely different bloody game. When I was younger, I thought dating was about finding love, getting married, building a life and growing old together. I thought I’d have that great love story where, at ninety, we’d still be smacking each other’s arse and giggling like teenagers. That was the plan. Apparently, somebody forgot to tell my two ex-husbands. So here I am, fifty, divorced twice and back in the dating world, looking around and occasionally thinking, “What the actual f**k happened?” Because dating at this age isn’t just about finding someone attractive and deciding whether you fancy going for a drink. We’ve accumulated decades of life, experiences, relationships, heartbreak, lessons, scars, bad decisions, good decisions and, in some cases, enough emotional baggage to require its own bloody baggage carousel. And yet here we are, downloading dating apps and trying to decide whether a photograph of a man holding a fish tells us anything useful about his personality. But underneath all the humour, there’s something I really want to investigate. I’m not here to give dating advice, and I’m certainly not here to tell you how to have a successful relationship. After two divorces, I think we can agree that would be slightly ambitious. What I want to do is look at ourselves and ask some uncomfortable questions about why we chose the people we chose and why we stayed where we stayed. We tend to ask ourselves, “Why did I put up with that? Why didn’t I leave sooner? Why wasn’t I stronger?” But I’ve started wondering if we’re asking the wrong questions. Maybe the better question is, “Why did I believe I needed to stay?” And perhaps the biggest question of all is, “Why did I believe that was all I deserved?” That’s where the investigation gets interesting, because suddenly we aren’t just talking about our exes anymore. We’re talking about ourselves, our childhoods, our fathers, our mothers, our experiences, our wounds and the things we learned about love long before we ever went on our first date. That is where The Great Investigation comes in. Not as a way of blaming our parents or our exes, and certainly not as an excuse for the choices we’ve made, but as an invitation to become curious about ourselves. What were we looking for? What were we trying to prove? What did we believe love was supposed to feel like? What did we believe we had to do to be chosen? And what did we believe about ourselves? Because maybe dating after fifty isn’t just about finding someone new. Maybe it’s about finally understanding ourselves well enough to stop repeating what we’ve already lived through. It’s about figuring out the difference between chemistry and chaos, being loved and being needed, partnership and motherhood, compromise and disappearing. And if we’re going to step back into the dating world at fifty, we might as well have a bloody good laugh while we’re investigating it. So welcome to Fifty Shades of WTF — dating again after fifty, finding ourselves somewhere between the train wrecks, the red flags, the right swipes and whatever the hell comes next.

  2. Aug 20

    Episode 8 Crumbs of Pain

    Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussion of the death of a child, SIDS, grief, loss, and the devastating emotional pain that follows. Some of the content may be difficult or triggering for listeners who have experienced child loss or bereavement. Please listen when you feel emotionally safe to do so. Sometimes an episode isn’t planned. Sometimes it simply comes from somewhere inside you that says, I need to share this. This is one of those episodes. For Episode Eight, I’m sharing some of my crumbs of pain—pieces of writing I originally wrote in my very first book, Inside Me, alongside parts of my own story that I’ve carried for many years. I’m going to talk about my daughter, Maxie, and the devastating loss of her life to SIDS. I’ll talk about the kind of love that can be so enormous that when it is suddenly taken from you, it feels like it has destroyed every part of you. Because sometimes we don’t understand just how deeply we can love someone until we are forced to live without them. There are pieces of grief that never completely disappear. We learn to carry them differently. We learn how to breathe around them. We learn that healing doesn’t mean forgetting, and it certainly doesn’t mean that the pain never visits again. I’m still coming through it. Maybe I always will be. But I came through places I once thought would destroy me. And within those places, I found words. Words that became Inside Me. Words that held my pain when I couldn’t. Words that eventually helped me begin to understand that even the deepest wounds can become part of the story of who we are—not the end of it. So today, I’m opening those pages again. These are my crumbs of pain. And perhaps, somewhere within them, you might find a crumb of your own.

  3. Aug 17

    Episode 6 How Did I Heal When the Odds Were So Against Me

    This is one of my most vulnerable episodes yet. I share the raw truth of my own healing journey—not as someone who has figured everything out, but as someone who has had to walk through the very things I now help others navigate. I talk about the experiences that shaped me, the moments that brought me face-to-face with myself, my spiritual journey, and what it took to begin understanding the reasons behind my behaviours, my coping and escaping mechanisms, my sense of worth, and the way I learned to love myself and others. Because healing isn’t about pretending the past didn’t happen. It’s about understanding how the past can influence the choices we make, the relationships we create, the things we tolerate, the ways we protect ourselves and the stories we carry about who we are. And when we begin to heal, something changes. We start seeing life differently. We develop better tools. We recognise our patterns sooner. We learn healthier ways to cope. We begin making different choices—not because life suddenly becomes easier, but because we are no longer facing it with the same tools we had before. There is a lot of raw truth in this episode, but there is also hope. I share my story because I want my vulnerability to give someone else permission to share theirs. You don’t have to hide your story to heal from it. Sometimes, bringing it into the light is where the healing begins. This is my story of how I began healing when the odds felt completely stacked against me—and what I’ve discovered on the other side. Because healing doesn’t change what happened, it changes what happens next.

  4. Aug 13

    Episode 4 “You Don’t Need a Diagnosis to Know You Were Abused”

    The word narcissist has become almost impossible to escape in modern dating and relationships. It seems that every difficult breakup, selfish partner, toxic relationship or hurtful behaviour now comes with the same diagnosis: narcissist. But I’ve started wondering whether, in our eagerness to name what hurt us, we’ve actually started watering down a word that carries far more weight than we realise. In this episode of Beneath the Scars with Zoe, I begin with something that might surprise you: I haven’t dated a narcissist. I’ve been with wounded people. I’ve experienced manipulation, control, emotional abuse, psychological abuse, physical abuse and sexual abuse. I’ve experienced people who behaved badly and people who needed healing. Some were simply assholes. But looking back, I don’t believe that automatically makes them narcissists. That distinction matters to me because Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a real clinical disorder, and there are people who have genuinely lived through narcissistic abuse. Their experiences deserve to be taken seriously rather than becoming lost in a culture where the word narcissist is thrown around so casually that it can eventually stop meaning anything. This conversation looks at what narcissism actually is, what the clinical characteristics of Narcissistic Personality Disorder are, and why being selfish, emotionally unavailable, wounded, toxic, controlling or abusive isn’t automatically the same thing as having NPD. I also explore another label we’ve embraced: empath. I’ve always been able to walk into a room and sense when something isn’t right, but I’ve come to question whether that is really some extraordinary ability or whether, for me, it was something I learned through survival. Sometimes being exceptionally good at reading people isn’t a superpower. Sometimes it’s hyper-awareness developed because you had to learn how to read the room. From there, the conversation becomes personal. I talk about being perceived as a strong, independent woman while still having a deep desire to feel safe, protected and able to soften with someone. I’ve often been drawn to men who appeared stronger, only to discover that I was actually the stronger person in the relationship — encouraging, supporting, raising them up and sometimes even mothering them. And perhaps that’s a different question from asking why someone keeps attracting narcissists. Maybe sometimes we need to ask ourselves why we’ve mistaken someone’s potential for their capacity. Ultimately, this isn’t an episode about diagnosing your ex. It’s about learning to look beyond labels and pay attention to character, history, patterns, accountability, empathy and behaviour. Because not every wounded person is a narcissist. Not every a*****e is a narcissist. Not every abusive person has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. And you don’t need a diagnosis to know that someone hurt you. But if we’re going to use the word narcissist, perhaps we owe it to the people who have genuinely experienced narcissistic abuse to understand what that word actually means. This is Beneath the Scars with Zoe — a conversation about looking beyond the label and finally getting underneath the behaviour.

  5. Aug 12

    Episode 3 Why Do We Stay

    Why do we stay in relationships that hurt us? And why, even after we leave, can we sometimes find ourselves repeating the same patterns with completely different people? In this episode of Beneath the Scars with Zoe, I get into the uncomfortable stuff—the kind of things we don’t always want to look at too closely. I talk about what abusive relationships can actually look like from the inside, how they often begin with someone being everything you’ve ever wanted, and how slowly that can turn into control, manipulation, criticism and psychological warfare. I’ve experienced physical violence, threats and broken bones, but for me, it was the psychological damage that stayed. Being told you’re fat, ugly, weak, useless or that nobody would ever want you doesn’t simply disappear when the person does. Those words can become part of the voice inside your own head, and sometimes the hardest part of healing is learning which voice is actually yours. I also talk about betrayal, being made to question my own reality, and how exhausting it becomes when you’re constantly trying to prove what you know happened. But eventually, my healing took me much deeper. I had to stop only looking at the people who hurt me and start asking myself what I’d learned about love, where I’d learned it, what I’d come to believe about myself and why certain patterns could feel so familiar. That took me all the way back to my first love at nineteen, and into my own father wounds. I began to understand that sometimes the person who hurts us isn’t where the story began. Sometimes there are deeper wounds underneath the ones we can immediately see. That’s where The Great Investigation came from. My workbook explores relationships, boundaries, identity and self-worth, giving us the space to ask the questions we might otherwise avoid. In this episode, I’ll also share a reading from the book and explain why I believe asking the right questions can be the beginning of real healing. This isn’t about blaming ourselves for somebody else’s abuse. It’s about understanding ourselves, recognizing patterns, rebuilding our boundaries and figuring out who we are underneath everything we’ve been taught to believe. Because maybe the question isn’t simply, Why did I stay? Maybe it’s, What happened to me while I was there—and what am I ready to discover about myself now? This is Beneath the Scars with Zoe. I’m not here because I’ve got everything figured out. I’m here because I’m still investigating too. If you’re ready to ask some of your own questions, you can find more about my books, my work and contact me at: Zoehethershaw.com

About

I’m Zoe Hethershaw—a holistic health practitioner, Reiki Master, author, and someone who has spent 17 years holding space for people through trauma, grief, loss, and life’s deepest wounds. After 15 years caring for some of our most vulnerable through my own healthcare company, I learned that there is always more beneath the surface. In Beneath the Scar, I investigate the wounds we carry, why they shape us, and how we heal. Through honest conversations with survivors and healers, we’ll explore the mother wound, father wound, rejection, boundaries, love, loss, and what it means to truly understa