Founder Real Talk

Wisdom Partners

A podcast for founders, by founders. We explore the real journey of building and growing a company. Each episode, we go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the strategies, decisions, and hard lessons that shaped successful businesses, revealing the good, the bad, and the ugly behind the growth.

  1. 6d ago

    Why 1 in 1,000 Ad Clicks Isn't Enough: Austin Goldman on Bet-the-Company Decisions | Ep. 78

    Welcome to Founder Real Talk, a podcast for founders, by founders. We explore the real journey of building and growing a company. Each episode, we go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the strategies, decisions, and hard lessons that shaped successful businesses, revealing the good, the bad, and the ugly behind the growth. When ad arbitrage disappeared and social marketing costs skyrocketed, e-commerce brands faced a brutal reality: fix unit economics or fail. Austin Goldman, founder and CEO of Shoplift, breaks down how building the only certified A/B testing platform purpose-built for Shopify transformed conversion rates for brands like Great Jones. He opens up about the risk of betting your entire product on a single ecosystem, moving from quantitative certainty to startup clarity, and the painful transition from team quarterback to general manager. — This episode was brought to you by Wisdom Partners. If you're looking for more real conversations, practical resources, and honest founder stories, follow us for upcoming episodes of Founder Real Talk. We invite you to subscribe to our Substack newsletters to receive weekly articles, insights, and resources designed to support founders through every stage of the journey! Contact us: wisdompartners.llc/contact Subscribe to our Substack: blog.wisdompartners.llc Chapters(00:24) - Intro (01:55) - The death of ad arbitrage and fixing e-commerce unit economics (05:28) - From public finance markets to consumer identity (09:01) - How a 21% lift changes brand economics (11:15) - Betting entirely on the Shopify ecosystem (14:19) - Operating with clarity over certainty (17:41) - Hiring for the slope of development, not past titles (21:20) - Evolving from quarterback to coach to general manager (25:47) - Filtering signal from noise in founder advice (28:16) - Why seed-to-Series A founders are under-supported Links & ResourcesGuest: Austin Goldman, Founder & CEO of ShopliftGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/austingoldman/Guest Website: https://www.shoplift.ai/ Referenced in the episode: ShopifyGreat Jones (cookware company)The Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Patrick LencioniThe Five Temptations of a CEO by Patrick Lencioni Keywordsfounders, entrepreneurship, e-commerce, CRO, conversion rate optimization, AB testing, Shopify apps, Shopify ecosystem, performance marketing, unit economics, startup scaling, founder leadership, executive hiring, Patrick Lencioni, startup advice, Series A, startup growth

    Why 1 in 1,000 Ad Clicks Isn't Enough: Austin Goldman on Bet-the-Company Decisions | Ep. 78
  2. Nov 2

    He Thought He Might Lose His Family’s Money. Then He Found a Way — Jimmy Speyer | Ep. 77

    Welcome to Founder Real Talk, a podcast for founders, by founders. We explore the real journey of building and growing a company. Each episode, we go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the strategies, decisions, and hard lessons that shaped successful businesses, revealing the good, the bad, and the ugly behind the growth. Jimmy Speyer, founder and CEO of GlassHouse, is building an AI-powered platform that helps home service businesses find new customers through “digital door knocking.” But behind the company's growth is a much more personal story: the fear of losing investors' money, the pressure of tying your identity to your business, and the hard decisions that come with building a company from scratch. Jimmy shares how his team grew from zero to roughly $3 million, why he refuses to leave early investors behind, and how honest conversations with mentors helped him decide whether to keep going. — This episode was brought to you by Wisdom Partners. If you're looking for more real conversations, practical resources, and honest founder stories, follow us for upcoming episodes of Founder Real Talk. We invite you to subscribe to our Substack newsletters to receive weekly articles, insights, and resources designed to support founders through every stage of the journey! Contact us: Wisdom Partners Subscribe to our Substack: Wisdom Partners Blog Chapters(00:00) - Intro (02:01) - What GlassHouse solves, and what “digital door knocking” means (04:55) - How he’d help a real tree-trimming business get leads (06:22) - The reframe: it’s not hard to find a plumber, it’s hard to find the time (08:21) - Why this resonates: a servant-leader drawn to service businesses (11:59) - A big win: every original investor came back to reinvest (14:46) - Separating your identity from the company (18:19) - It’s normal to have really crappy days (19:05) - Making time (and budget) for coaching as a resource-constrained founder (24:22) - The quarterly “do we keep going?” check-in (25:32) - Wisdom is failure redeemed: picking a co-founder is like marriage (30:32) - Evolving as a leader: learning patience and letting the team be great (34:22) - Jimmy turns the mic on Josh: the changing expectations for founders (41:00) - Building a real business, not just a cool technology Links & ResourcesGuest: Jimmy Speyer, Founder and CEO of GlassHouseGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmy-speyer-46681069Guest Website: https://www.glasshousepro.com/ Keywords founders, entrepreneurship, home services, SaaS, lead generation, GlassHouse, Jimmy Speyer, digital door knocking, AI customer intelligence, outbound sales, SMB, mid-market, investor loyalty, re-investment, co-founder alignment, founder identity, mindset coaching, board advisors, the comparison trap, profitability, building a business vs building technology

    He Thought He Might Lose His Family’s Money. Then He Found a Way  — Jimmy Speyer | Ep. 77
  3. Oct 30

    Colleges Measure Career Readiness All Wrong — Eric Elwer on Building SteppingStone | Ep. 76

    Welcome to Founder Real Talk, a podcast for founders, by founders. We explore the real journey of building and growing a company. Each episode, we go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the strategies, decisions, and hard lessons that shaped successful businesses, revealing the good, the bad, and the ugly behind the growth. This week, Josh sits down with Eric Elwer, CEO and founder of SteppingStone, an AI-native platform connecting students, universities, and employers around real outcomes. Eric breaks down why the way colleges measure career readiness is broken (“it’s like checking the patient after they’re in the mortuary”), the personal moment that sparked the company (watching his own daughter brought to tears by bad university tools), and the gutsy decision to scrap V1 of the product entirely and start over — a call that led investors to double down with 2x the round. He gets honest about the hardest transition of all: going from building a great product to building an actual business. — This episode was brought to you by Wisdom Partners. If you’re looking for more real conversations, practical resources, and honest founder stories, follow us for upcoming episodes of Founder Real Talk. We invite you to subscribe to our Substack newsletters to receive weekly articles, insights, and resources designed to support founders through every stage of the journey! Contact us: wisdompartners.llc/contact Subscribe to our Substack: blog.wisdompartners.llc Chapters(00:00) - Intro (01:35) - The problem: measuring career readiness after it’s too late (03:17) - Why this is personal: watching his daughter Sydney in tears (06:22) - A big win: scrapping V1 and starting over (08:19) - Why he chose a hard reset over a tweak (09:56) - Wisdom is failure redeemed: building a product vs. building a business (15:57) - The biggest challenge now: fundraising and the startup pinch (19:38) - “Can I afford to grow?” (20:27) - Evolving as a leader: doing the jobs that aren’t your strengths (22:59) - The growing edge: learning to go from product to business (27:40) - Investing in himself: the spiritual side of avoiding burnout (30:58) - Eric turns the mic on Josh: how do you prepare someone for this? Links & ResourcesGuest: Eric Elwer, CEO & Founder of SteppingStoneGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-elwer-42696aGuest Website: https://www.mysteppingstone.ai/Referenced in the episode: Grand Canyon UniversityThe Energy Project’s four-energies framework: mental, physical, emotional, spiritual Keywordsfounders, entrepreneurship, edtech, career readiness, higher education, AI-native platform, SteppingStone, Eric Elwer, university outcomes, student success, product pivot, starting over, product to business, startup pinch, fundraising, customer acquisition cost, founder burnout, spiritual energy, leadership transition, first-time CEO

    Colleges Measure Career Readiness All Wrong — Eric Elwer on Building SteppingStone | Ep. 76
  4. Oct 27

    FRT LIVE! The Real Story of Scaling AI | Ep. 75

    Welcome to Founder Real Talk, a podcast for founders, by founders. We explore the real journey of building and growing a company. Each episode, we go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the strategies, decisions, and hard lessons that shaped successful businesses, revealing the good, the bad, and the ugly behind the growth. This week is a special one: a live panel recorded at a Women in AI event hosted by Finix and the Women in AI Club, and co-hosted by Wisdom Partners. Josh Broward sits down with two sharp voices on what it actually takes to build and scale an AI company right now: Alina Krasnobrizha, PhD, Chief Scientist at Heura Lab and a mathematician who literally wrote the book on AI, and Keshia Theobald-van Gent, Partner at BDev Ventures. Together they get into why “trust is the new moat,” the one question every AI founder has to answer (if the model gets better, does your business get better?), why AI hype spreads like free marketing, the brutal state of funding for female founders, and the unglamorous fundamentals that actually separate durable companies from the mushrooms popping up overnight. — This episode was brought to you by Wisdom Partners. If you’re looking for more real conversations, practical resources, and honest founder stories, follow us for upcoming episodes of Founder Real Talk. We invite you to subscribe to our Substack newsletters to receive weekly articles, insights, and resources designed to support founders through every stage of the journey! Contact us: wisdompartners.llc/contact Want to join the pod? Email support@wisdompartners.llc Subscribe to our Substack: blog.wisdompartners.llc Chapters (00:00) - Intro & thank-yous: Finix, Wisdom Partners, Insperity (04:26) - Meet the panel (15:19) - Business development vs. sales: what founders get wrong (19:35) - Why it all comes back to business fundamentals (21:35) - Fundraising advice: do your digging before you pitch (36:36) - “A lot of fails” — discovering hidden talent on the team (40:55) - Why AI hype is free marketing (and why fear spreads fastest) (45:20) - The loneliest job in the world (46:14) - Building a durable moat (47:38) - Trust and ethics as the new moat (50:00) - The state of funding for female founders (53:00) - Audience Q&A (01:06:55) - Final questions and parting advice Links & Resources Alina Krasnobrizha, PhD: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alina-krasnobrizha-ph-d-854a08b9Keshia Theobald-van Gent: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keshiaHost - Finix: https://finix.com/Sponsor - Insperity: https://www.insperity.com/Referenced in the episode: Shom Ghose, investor and professor at UC Berkeley (on ethics/trust as a moat)Kian Mahoney, Vouch Insurance (event sponsor remarks)Keywords founders, entrepreneurship, artificial intelligence, scaling AI, AI startups, Founder Real Talk live, Women in AI, Finix, BDev Ventures, Heura Lab, Keshia Theobald-van Gent, Alina Krasnobrizha, Josh Broward, trust as a moat, defensibility, business development, founder-led sales, fundraising, female founders, venture capital, AI hype, business fundamentals, startup panel

    FRT LIVE! The Real Story of Scaling AI | Ep. 75
  5. Oct 23

    Your Chocolate and Beer Are Polluting the Water — Ben Slotnick on Lillianah Technologies | Ep. 74

    Welcome to Founder Real Talk, a podcast for founders, by founders. We explore the real journey of building and growing a company. Each episode, we go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the strategies, decisions, and hard lessons that shaped successful businesses, revealing the good, the bad, and the ugly behind the growth. This week, Josh sits down with Benjamin Slotnick, founder and CEO of Lillianah Technologies — a climate tech company using biological solutions to restore waterways, reduce nutrient pollution, and pull carbon from the atmosphere, with a focus on wastewater treatment for municipalities and food processing plants. Benjamin’s path is anything but typical: a rock-collecting kid who became the first geologist in his family, earned a PhD from Rice, spent nearly a decade in oil and gas, and even got elected as a municipal water director in Texas. He breaks down why your beer, chocolate, and tomato sauce are quietly polluting the water supply, the operate-vs-license dilemma shaping the company’s future, and the hard-won lesson that you can’t do it all yourself. — This episode was brought to you by Wisdom Partners. If you’re looking for more real conversations, practical resources, and honest founder stories, follow us for upcoming episodes of Founder Real Talk. We invite you to subscribe to our Substack newsletters to receive weekly articles, insights, and resources designed to support founders through every stage of the journey! Contact us: wisdompartners.llc/contact Subscribe to our Substack: blog.wisdompartners.llc Chapters(00:00) - Intro (02:05) - What Lillianah actually solves in wastewater treatment (04:24) - Why food processing is a hidden source of pollution (06:32) - From a childhood rock collection to climate tech (08:27) - A big win: first patent awarded, first licensing deal signed (09:02) - The operate-vs-license dilemma (and the McDonald’s analogy) (15:35) - Wisdom is failure redeemed: don’t try to do everything yourself (18:10) - The biggest challenge: staying focused (19:47) - Finding the beachhead: targeting acidity and pH, not a single food group (23:16) - Evolving as a leader and his growing edge (25:35) - Investing in himself: building an advisory board instead of a big team (30:06) - Benjamin turns the mic on Josh: what makes a guest, and the loneliness of founding Links & ResourcesGuest: Benjamin Slotnick, Founder & CEO of Lillianah TechnologiesGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamin-slotnick-a2948333Guest Website: https://www.lillianah.com/Referenced in the episode: Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell (the money/energy delegation matrix)Keywordsfounders, entrepreneurship, climate tech, wastewater treatment, water technology, Lillianah Technologies, Benjamin Slotnick, nutrient pollution, carbon removal, food processing, pH buffering, geology, oil and gas, patents, licensing model, operate vs license, advisory board, delegation, Buy Back Your Time, market beachhead, physical-world startups, municipal water

    Your Chocolate and Beer Are Polluting the Water — Ben Slotnick on Lillianah Technologies | Ep. 74
  6. Oct 22

    His Startup Almost Died the First Yar. Morgan Moncada on Neru Health | Ep. 73

    Welcome to Founder Real Talk, a podcast for founders, by founders. We explore the real journey of building and growing a company. Each episode, we go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the strategies, decisions, and hard lessons that shaped successful businesses, revealing the good, the bad, and the ugly behind the growth. Morgan Moncada, founder and CEO of Neru Health, knows what it's like to get almost everything right on paper and still struggle to build a business. After spending months developing an AI-powered sleep coaching product that customers wouldn't pay for, his team came dangerously close to running out of money. A chance conversation with a trucking company helped them uncover a more urgent problem in healthcare, changing the direction of the business. Morgan shares what he learned about finding product-market fit, following the money, winning customers, and building AI that helps human healthcare teams do their jobs better. — This episode was brought to you by Wisdom Partners. If you're looking for more real conversations, practical resources, and honest founder stories, follow us for upcoming episodes of Founder Real Talk. We invite you to subscribe to our Substack newsletters to receive weekly articles, insights, and resources designed to support founders through every stage of the journey! Contact us: wisdompartners.llc/contact Subscribe to our Substack: blog.wisdompartners.llc Chapters(00:00) - Intro (02:00) - The patient who fell through the cracks of healthcare (08:52) - Using AI to keep patients on treatment (12:58) - Almost running out of money while chasing product-market fit (17:24) - Follow the reimbursement money, not just the idea (21:40) - Stop pushing your product and find out what buyers actually need (23:36) - The first customer wasn't the customer they expected (31:47) - Scaling before competitors catch up (33:33) - Learning to lead through reading, advisors, and letting go (37:42) - The founder who almost worked through his vacation in Japan (40:18) - Using AI to make humans more human Links & ResourcesGuest: Morgan Moncada, Founder and CEO of Neru HealthGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/morgan-moncadaGuest Website: https://www.neruhealth.comReferenced in the episode: Rob Snyder: Sales coach whose framework helped Morgan rethink how to approach potential customers.Plug and Play: Startup and innovation platform mentioned in a discussion about finding early customers.CPAP therapy: Treatment for obstructive sleep apnea and the initial focus of Neru Health's patient adherence work.Durable medical equipment (DME) providers: Healthcare businesses that supply and manage long-term medical equipment and treatment.GLP-1 medications: Mentioned as an example of ongoing treatment costs that can affect patient adherence.Taoism: A philosophical tradition Morgan draws on to think about leadership, delegation, and letting go. Keywords: Founder Real Talk, Morgan Moncada, Neru Health, startup failure, product-market fit, healthcare startups, healthtech, AI in healthcare, agentic AI, patient adherence, CPAP therapy, sleep apnea, durable medical equipment, healthcare reimbursement, startup pivot, customer discovery, B2B sales, paid pilot, founder leadership, scaling a startup

    His Startup Almost Died the First Yar. Morgan Moncada on Neru Health | Ep. 73
  7. Oct 16

    Why 99% of Founder News Is Bad News (And How to Survive It) with Malur Narayan | Ep. 72

    Welcome to Founder Real Talk, a podcast for founders, by founders. We explore the real journey of building and growing a company. Each episode, we go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the strategies, decisions, and hard lessons that shaped successful businesses, revealing the good, the bad, and the ugly behind the growth. In this episode, Josh sits down with Malur Narayan, CEO of Xtrium, a startup leveraging quantitative AI and graph networks to fix critical manufacturing supply chains. Malur breaks down why China's 95% chokehold on critical raw materials impacts everyday American products, how he transitioned from managing thousand-person corporate teams to working 16-hour days with no salary, and why surviving as a founder requires embracing the reality that 99% of incoming news will be rejections. — This episode was brought to you by Wisdom Partners. If you're looking for more real conversations, practical resources, and honest founder stories, follow us for upcoming episodes of Founder Real Talk. We invite you to subscribe to our Substack newsletters to receive weekly articles, insights, and resources designed to support founders through every stage of the journey! Contact us: wisdompartners.llc/contact Subscribe to our Substack: blog.wisdompartners.llc Chapters(00:00) - Intro (02:32) - Why materials selection is broken in 2026 (04:45) - The geopolitical bottleneck of China controlling 95% of critical materials (09:50) - Why LLMs fail at material science and how graph models fix it (12:11) - Managing $10M material buys that unlock $5B in revenue (14:18) - Shutting down a startup and learning founder alignment early (19:24) - Bhagavad Gita, ancient philosophy, and focusing on work over outcomes (20:28) - Narrowing down 550 high-pain buyers to build a beachhead (24:07) - Moving from a corporate corner office to 16-hour founder days (33:06) - Investor responsibility vs outer blame in early fundraising (36:04) - Why investor pressure accidentally burns out elite founders Links & ResourcesGuest: Malur Narayan, CEO of XtriumGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/malurGuest Website: https://www.xtrium.ai/Referenced in the episode: Plug and Play Tech CenterDivInc / Divinque AcceleratorAncient texts (Bhagavad Gita, Bible, Quran)Keywordsfounders, entrepreneurship, supply chain AI, critical materials, material science, deep tech startups, B2B SaaS, manufacturing risk, China supply chain, biomaterials, PFAS free, graph neural networks, cofounder alignment, founder mental health, startup burnout, enterprise sales, Wisdom Partners, XTRIUM, podcast, testimonial

    Why 99% of Founder News Is Bad News (And How to Survive It) with Malur Narayan | Ep. 72
  8. Oct 9

    Google, Amazon, Microsoft — Now Startup #4. David Aronchick on Building Expanso | Ep. 71

    Welcome to Founder Real Talk, a podcast for founders, by founders.  We explore the real journey of building and growing a company. Each episode, we go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the strategies, decisions, and hard lessons that shaped successful businesses, revealing the good, the bad, and the ugly behind the growth. This week, Josh sits down with David Aronchick, a veteran of Google, Amazon, and Microsoft, now on his fourth startup as founder and CEO of Expanso — infrastructure that lets organizations run compute where their data actually lives, instead of shipping it all to the cloud. David explains the problem with a gold-mine analogy that makes it click for anyone, and opens up about a counterintuitive year-one lesson: cost savings, the thing he assumed would be the easiest sell, barely moved the needle because almost nobody in a company actually cares about saving money. He also gets honest about the cost of a toxic hire, why 168 hours a week is the one constraint no founder escapes, and — in a role reversal to close the episode — turns the mic on Josh to ask what founders should be doing sooner than they do. - This episode was brought to you by Wisdom Partners. If you’re looking for more real conversations, practical resources, and honest founder stories, follow us for upcoming episodes of Founder Real Talk. We invite you to subscribe to our Substack newsletters to receive weekly articles, insights, and resources designed to support founders through every stage of the journey! Contact us: wisdompartners.llc/contact Subscribe to our Substack: blog.wisdompartners.llc Chapters  (00:00) - Intro (01:53) - What Expanso does (04:28) - The gold mine analogy that makes it click (07:31) - Lessons from Google, Amazon, and Microsoft (08:31) - Landing enterprise customers after 12+ months (09:48) - Starting with enterprise instead of starving first (12:36) - Cost savings isn’t the pitch you think it is (14:40) - Money, mission, risk  (17:23) - Rising above the noise (18:12) - Finding the Goldilocks person inside an organization (21:43) - Getting past the b******t meter with real data (23:58) - Hiring quickly without hiring toxic people (26:01) - 168 hours in a week (27:18) - David turns the mic on Josh: three things founders should do sooner Links & Resources  David’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aronchickExpanso: https://expanso.ioBlog: The Energy vs Money Matrix: https://blog.wisdompartners.llc/p/the-energy-vs-money-matrix-how-to Keywords founders, entrepreneurship, edge computing, data infrastructure, Expanso, David Aronchick, repeat founder, fourth-time founder, enterprise sales, cost savings pitch, delegation, hiring mistakes, toxic hires, founder burnout, executive buyers, VP-level champions, go-to-market strategy, big tech alumni, Google Amazon Microsoft, 168 hours, startup, advice, coach, coaching, podcast, real tal

    Google, Amazon, Microsoft — Now Startup #4. David Aronchick on Building Expanso | Ep. 71

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A podcast for founders, by founders. We explore the real journey of building and growing a company. Each episode, we go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the strategies, decisions, and hard lessons that shaped successful businesses, revealing the good, the bad, and the ugly behind the growth.