This Should Be Good

Arthur Elliott

This Should Be Good is a video podcast hosted by Bishop Michael Martin and Andy Pfeiffer — two longtime friends having honest conversations designed to reach the disengaged, the curious, or those who have left the Catholic Church. To do so, they discuss topics people ask about and position the bishop as the humble, genuine, real, yet great spiritual guide that he is.

Episodes

  1. 21h ago

    Ep 12: Is All Gossip Bad? | This Should Be Good

    Bishop Michael and Andy talk about gossip, from office chatter to cancel culture, and how to tell the difference between venting, warning someone, and just trashing them. Episode Highlights: 00:30 — Gossip or truth: Andy tests the Bishop on Napoleon's height, the Vatican's Latin ATM, goldfish memory, the patron saint of comedians, Viking helmets, and the Swiss Guard 06:08 — From urban legends to cancel culture, and the big question: is all gossip bad? 07:50 — Andy's three kinds of gossip: trashing, warning, and venting, and why intent is at the heart of each 08:48 — The Bishop on where venting ends and vilifying someone begins 10:35 — Andy catches himself talking about someone that same day, and why it stings 12:35 — Why the Bishop isn't a fan of the word “canceled,” and how you can forgive someone and still warn others 14:43 — Would Jesus have been canceled? The history of the scapegoat and why we look for someone to blame 17:03 — How gossip spreads when people are left in the dark, and what it does to trust at work 20:03 — The study that found people spend 52 minutes a day talking about others, and the Bishop admits that yes, bishops gossip too 24:09 — Being the one who stops it: the Bishop regrets staying quiet, and Andy's go-to move is changing the subject About Your Hosts: Bishop Michael is a longtime friend and mentor to Andy, with more than three decades of shared history between them. A bishop known for his straightforward, often funny take on faith, he brings decades of pastoral experience, from teaching religious studies to serving as a first responder to his own community, to every conversation on the show. Andy is a businessman, husband, and father who co-hosts This Should Be Good, bringing the questions real people are actually asking into conversation with Bishop Michael. Equal parts curious and irreverent, he keeps the conversation grounded in the everyday realities of work, parenting, and trying to keep up. Connect & Resources: Have a question or a topic you'd like covered? Submit it here: thisshouldbegood.show, your question could become a full episode.

  2. Nov 4

    Ep 11: Should You Listen to Imposter Syndrome? | This Should Be Good

    Bishop Michael and Andy take a listener's question about feeling like an imposter on a new board, and land on why the feeling is usually a sign you care, why humility beats self-righteousness, and why the best antidote is making the next new person feel welcome. Episode Highlights: 00:00 — Andy quizzes Bishop Michael on Gen Z slang: aura, delulu, cooked, main character energy, and sus 02:11 — This week's listener question from Rob: he just joined a board and feels like an imposter, so how does he get past it, and is the feeling ever telling him something true? 02:59 — Why newness fuels imposter syndrome, and Bishop Michael on wondering why he was invited to the table when he first arrived at Duke 04:25 — Andy's theory that never feeling like an imposter makes you a narcissist, and why the feeling is a sign you care 05:12 — Humility, not needing to be the smartest person in the room, and the survey where 62% admit to imposter syndrome 07:50 — A massive soft pretzel at a Jacksonville hotel bar, and why we feel most out of place around people we don't know 10:00 — Flip the script: welcoming the new person in the room, and what happens to a team when people start hiding their weaknesses 12:43 — When the feeling never goes away, no matter what you bring to the table, and why that's worth exploring 13:32 — Feeling like an imposter walking back into church, and why Jesus sides with the humble over the self-righteous 19:03 — Andy's four takeaways for Rob: say it out loud, know that you care, separate feelings from facts, and pay it forward to the next new person About Your Hosts: Bishop Michael is a longtime friend and mentor to Andy, with more than three decades of shared history between them. A bishop known for his straightforward, often funny take on faith, he brings decades of pastoral experience, from teaching religious studies to serving as a first responder to his own community, to every conversation on the show. Andy is a businessman, husband, and father who co-hosts This Should Be Good, bringing the questions real people are actually asking into conversation with Bishop Michael. Equal parts curious and irreverent, he keeps the conversation grounded in the everyday realities of work, parenting, and trying to keep up. Connect & Resources: Have a question or a topic you'd like covered? Submit it here: thisshouldbegood.show, your question could become a full episode.

  3. Oct 28

    Ep 10: Don’t Take Yourself So Seriously | This Should Be Good

    Bishop Michael and Andy trade rapid-fire questions about ghosts, condiments, and horse-sized ducks, then dig into why we save fun for the weekend, what Saint Francis meant by calling his followers jesters, and why real joy might be holier than we think. Episode Highlights: 00:00 — This week’s topic is the Bishop’s idea: we all need to have a little more fun 01:01 — A rapid-fire round: haunting ghosts, the one condiment for life, and one horse-sized duck vs. 100 duck-sized horses 08:19 — Why Saint Francis called his followers jesters, and what it means to be a fool for Christ 10:33 — Andy’s case against working for the weekend and saving fun for vacation 11:35 — Hawaiian shirts, a gray habit, and where we drew the line between work and fun 13:16 — How fun changes over a lifetime, and a phone call from a donut drive-through 14:25 — Andy’s practical advice: what would your inner child want to do right now? 15:46 — Bishop Michael on defining fun for yourself, steering clear of “pseudo fun,” and why fun is better shared 17:16 — The “glue guy” on every team, and the flow state of a game, a song, or a project built together 21:12 — Why joy sits at the base of real fun, and the holiness in pursuing it About Your Hosts: Bishop Michael is a longtime friend and mentor to Andy, with more than three decades of shared history between them. A bishop known for his straightforward, often funny take on faith, he brings decades of pastoral experience, from teaching religious studies to serving as a first responder to his own community, to every conversation on the show. Andy is a businessman, husband, and father who co-hosts This Should Be Good, bringing the questions real people are actually asking into conversation with Bishop Michael. Equal parts curious and irreverent, he keeps the conversation grounded in the everyday realities of work, parenting, and trying to keep up. Connect & Resources: Have a question or a topic you'd like covered? Submit it here: thisshouldbegood.show, your question could become a full episode.

  4. Oct 21

    Ep9: Hope or Optimism? What’s the Difference, and How to Use Both | This Should Be Good

    Bishop Michael and Andy take a listener’s question about caring for aging parents with no end in sight, and land on why hope is different from optimism, why it’s rooted in relationship, and why the first step out of despair is reaching out to someone. Episode Highlights: 00:00 — This week’s listener question from Eric: how do you find hope while caring for aging parents, or in any season with no light at the end of the tunnel? 01:44 — Why hope can’t be summoned on demand, and the daily question that builds it: what are you hoping for today? 04:00 — Andy drops some knowledge on the difference between hope and optimism, and Bishop Michael doesn’t quite buy it 05:36 — Hope as a gift and a virtue, and why it rises above things like your golf game 08:50 — Why hope is relational, and what the ending of The Shawshank Redemption teaches about it 11:30 — Covenant: how God’s promise to be with us shows up through the people in our lives 13:23 — The old joke about the man, the flood, the boat, and the helicopter, and taking stock of your blessings before the storm comes 15:52 — Andy on the Book of Habakkuk: getting mad at God, and the “hinds’ feet” that carry us through high places 21:19 — Andy’s recap, and the line he was proud of: hope requires something beyond yourself 24:19 — Why hopelessness is so isolating, and why the first step back is reaching out to someone About Your Hosts: Bishop Michael is a longtime friend and mentor to Andy, with more than three decades of shared history between them. A bishop known for his straightforward, often funny take on faith, he brings decades of pastoral experience, from teaching religious studies to serving as a first responder to his own community, to every conversation on the show. Andy is a businessman, husband, and father who co-hosts This Should Be Good, bringing the questions real people are actually asking into conversation with Bishop Michael. Equal parts curious and irreverent, he keeps the conversation grounded in the everyday realities of work, parenting, and trying to keep up. Connect & Resources: Have a question or a topic you'd like covered? Submit it here: thisshouldbegood.show, your question could become a full episode.

  5. Oct 14

    Ep8: Is There a Rule Book for Heaven? | This Should Be Good

    Bishop Michael and Andy take on a listener’s question about whether there’s a rule book for getting into heaven, and land on why the answer has less to do with rules than with relationship, the small choices that shape who we become, and trust in a merciful God. Episode Highlights: 00:00 — A listener named Jessica asks whether there’s a rule book for getting into heaven or avoiding hell, and whether one big bad thing counts more than a lot of little ones 00:43 — Andy on losing his father, Elliott, and the image from Bishop Michael’s funeral homily that he still shares with others who are grieving 04:07 — Why you can’t answer what happens when you die without first asking why you’re alive 06:02 — C.S. Lewis’s The Great Divorce and the idea of hell as an ever-widening distance from God and everyone else, of our own making 08:14 — The parable of the long spoons: starving at a feast versus learning to feed each other 09:24 — Less a rule book than a set of directions: why a pen was never meant to be a straw 12:50 — Why following the rules doesn’t guarantee a good life, and what the Psalms say about the wicked prospering 15:06 — “Bleed through”: how small choices add up to a bridge you don’t know you’ve crossed, and why “that wasn’t me” never holds up 19:33 — Owning the small steps, turning around while you still can, and the mercy of God even in the last moment 23:47 — Practical advice for anyone grieving: focus on the good of the life you shared and trust what it says about the life to come About Your Hosts: Bishop Michael is a longtime friend and mentor to Andy, with more than three decades of shared history between them. A bishop known for his straightforward, often funny take on faith, he brings decades of pastoral experience, from teaching religious studies to serving as a first responder to his own community, to every conversation on the show. Andy is a businessman, husband, and father who co-hosts This Should Be Good, bringing the questions real people are actually asking into conversation with Bishop Michael. Equal parts curious and irreverent, he keeps the conversation grounded in the everyday realities of work, parenting, and trying to keep up. Connect & Resources: Have a question or a topic you'd like covered? Submit it here: thisshouldbegood.show, your question could become a full episode.

  6. Oct 7

    Ep7: From $500 and a Friend's Floor to a 40-Person Agency | This Should Be Good

    Andy takes the hot seat to answer a listener's question about starting a business and leading a team, tracing his path from sleeping on a friend's floor to running a 40-plus-person ad agency, and he and Bishop Michael land on why hard work, open eyes, and authentic relationships matter more than the money and whether God has a plan for your career or you're writing your own. Episode Highlights: 00:31 — Charlotte's Greek festival weekend, and a review of The Odyssey on IMAX: some eternal truths, and a warning about lotus flowers 01:50 — This week's listener question puts Andy in the hot seat: any advice on starting your own business and having employees? 02:22 — Why Andy doesn't think anyone should set out to be an entrepreneur, why running a business and doing the work are two separate jobs, and the myth that owning a business makes you rich 06:38 — Arriving in Charlotte in 2000 with $500, sleeping on a friend's floor, and the odd jobs that taught him what mattered 07:26 — How relationships opened every door, from a restaurant manager's tip to Coca-Cola event marketing to employee number three at Red Moon Marketing 08:52 — Bishop Michael's three keys for any job: work hard, watch for opportunities, and stay authentic in your relationships 11:01 — The 2007 call from a former client that pushed Andy to start his own business, and learning to build a culture people want to be part of 14:27 — Climbing the ladder only to find it leaning against the wrong building, and why the real prize is loving the people you build something with 23:12 — Andy's big question: does God have a divine plan for your career, or are you the author of your own destiny? 25:27 — Bishop Michael on why we shouldn't hide behind "God's plan," and how our freedom to co-create is the real gift About Your Hosts: Bishop Michael is a longtime friend and mentor to Andy, with more than three decades of shared history between them. A bishop known for his straightforward, often funny take on faith, he brings decades of pastoral experience, from teaching religious studies to serving as a first responder to his own community, to every conversation on the show. Andy is a businessman, husband, and father who co-hosts This Should Be Good, bringing the questions real people are actually asking into conversation with Bishop Michael. Equal parts curious and irreverent, he keeps the conversation grounded in the everyday realities of work, parenting, and trying to keep up. Connect & Resources: Have a question or a topic you'd like covered? Submit it here: thisshouldbegood.show, your question could become a full episode.

  7. Sep 30

    Ep6: The Part of Forgiveness Nobody Talks About | This Should Be Good

    Bishop Michael and Andy take on three listener questions on forgiveness and confession (whether it's better to forgive or be forgiven, how to forgive someone while still drawing a boundary, and why Catholics confess their sins to a priest) and land on why forgiveness starts with humility and means letting go of the hurt, not erasing the consequences. Episode Highlights: 00:31 - Andy tries something new, opening with three listener questions, including one from Sara, a pastor's daughter, on forgiveness and boundaries 03:49 - Andy's take on forgiveness as shedding the layers we pile on, and the bishop's case for starting with an honest look at a broken world 08:47 - Thirty years of hearing confessions, and the spouses who come in to confess each other's sins 10:26 - Forgive or be forgiven? Why it begins with asking for forgiveness yourself 11:57 - “Not transactional, transformational,” and why the dishwasher keeps coming up 15:08 - Sara's question on boundaries: forgiveness means letting go of the hurt, not the consequences, and what expelling students taught the bishop about that 19:23 - The monkey, the vase, and the date: what refusing to forgive actually looks like 21:14 - Why forgiving and forgetting are two different things 22:16 - Why confess to a priest? Hearing God's forgiveness through a human voice, and why the hard part is the point 30:20 - Why sin is the least creative thing in the human experience, the seal of confession, and a last word from Andy's dad About Your Hosts: Bishop Michael is a longtime friend and mentor to Andy, with more than three decades of shared history between them. A bishop known for his straightforward, often funny take on faith, he brings decades of pastoral experience, from teaching religious studies to serving as a first responder to his own community, to every conversation on the show. Andy is a businessman, husband, and father who co-hosts This Should Be Good, bringing the questions real people are actually asking into conversation with Bishop Michael. Equal parts curious and irreverent, he keeps the conversation grounded in the everyday realities of work, parenting, and trying to keep up. Connect & Resources: Have a question or a topic you'd like covered? Submit it here: thisshouldbegood.show, your question could become a full episode.

  8. Sep 23

    Ep5: Staying Friends Across the Political Divide | This Should Be Good

    Bishop Michael and Andy tackle a listener's question, inspired by a mother and daughter torn apart by politics, about how to stay close to people whose politics differ from yours. They land on why seeing past labels and choosing relationship over being right matters more than winning the argument. Episode Highlights: 00:39 — Andy asks Bishop Michael if he's ever crushed a homily, only to find out later it fell completely flat 03:11 — Preaching to a congregation that spans newborns to 90 year olds, every political persuasion, and every kind of pain walking in the door 04:59 — The old seminary rule about crying babies, and why a silent congregation is the real warning sign 07:32 — This week's listener question: how do you stay friends with someone whose politics differ from yours, sparked by a mother and daughter who lost their relationship over it 09:45 — The studies on political division: how many Americans have lost a relationship over politics, and why people overestimate how far apart they really are 12:42 — Andy's case that most people agree on the same ten things and only disagree on how to get there, until you sit through an HOA meeting 15:51 — Choosing to love people unconditionally instead of basing it on whether they agree with you 17:48 — Why Andy thinks having friends who disagree with you, à la Lincoln's Team of Rivals, makes for a richer life and better decisions 23:20 — Practical advice for the mother and daughter: starting from “we're both made in God's image” and setting a loving boundary around political talk 27:55 — Andy on the time Bishop Michael chose unity over taking sides, and what it taught him about leadership About Your Hosts: Bishop Michael is a longtime friend and mentor to Andy, with more than three decades of shared history between them. A bishop known for his straightforward, often funny take on faith, he brings decades of pastoral experience, from teaching religious studies to serving as a first responder to his own community, to every conversation on the show. Andy is a businessman, husband, and father who co-hosts This Should Be Good, bringing the questions real people are actually asking into conversation with Bishop Michael. Equal parts curious and irreverent, he keeps the conversation grounded in the everyday realities of work, parenting, and trying to keep up. Connect & Resources: Have a question or a topic you'd like covered? Submit it here: thisshouldbegood.show, your question could become a full episode.

  9. Sep 16

    Ep4: The Vow That's Hardest to Keep | This Should Be Good

    Bishop Michael and Andy break down the vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience, trace the word “friar” back to its Latin roots, and land on which vow is hardest to actually live and why real selflessness has almost nothing to do with money. Episode Highlights: 00:00 — Andy makes his case for honorary Franciscan status, from a company called “Fran Holdings” to a dog named Franny 02:07 — The real meaning of “fraternity,” and how diocesan priests differ from religious orders like the Franciscans, Jesuits, and Benedictines 07:21 — What “ordained” actually means, and who takes vows without becoming a priest 08:01 — Crossing from Franciscan life into diocesan responsibility as a bishop 08:42 — The three vows poverty, chastity, and obedience and why chastity means more than “no sex” 12:32 — The bishop turns the question around: which vow would be hardest to live, and which would make you most selfless? 17:27 — Why obedience is the hardest vow to keep in a culture built on “my will, my way” 19:00 — Rethinking generosity: why writing a check isn’t the same as giving your time 28:00 — The case for martyrdom as the ultimate selflessness and an answer to the atheist’s challenge 33:40 — The daily practice of selflessness: “get out of yourself,” and why we’re meanest to the people we love most About Your Hosts: Bishop Michael is a longtime friend and mentor to Andy, with more than three decades of shared history between them. A bishop known for his straightforward, often funny take on faith, he brings decades of pastoral experience, from teaching religious studies to serving as a first responder to his own community, to every conversation on the show. Andy is a businessman, husband, and father who co-hosts This Should Be Good, bringing the questions real people are actually asking into conversation with Bishop Michael. Equal parts curious and irreverent, he keeps the conversation grounded in the everyday realities of work, parenting, and trying to keep up. Connect & Resources: Have a question or a topic you'd like covered? Submit it here: thisshouldbegood.show, your question could become a full episode.

  10. Sep 9

    Ep3: Is Comparison the Thief of Joy? | This Should Be Good

    Andy and Bishop Michael tackle a listener's question about comparison culture and social media: why do we measure our lives against everyone else's, and what actually helps? Along the way, the Bishop gets honest about whether the life he chose ever leaves him envious of the one most people get to live, and the two land on gratitude as the real antidote to comparison. Episode Highlights: 00:00 — Introducing today's topic: comparison culture and envy 01:11 — What Bishop Michael says he still misses, and what he doesn't 05:24 — Is social media the cause of comparison culture, or just fuel? 08:57 — The 1954 Festinger study: why we compare ourselves to the neighbor, not LeBron 14:19 — Where healthy comparison tips over into envy 16:35 — How comparison hits Andy: motivation, imposter syndrome, and “accomplishment addiction” 18:08 — Imposter syndrome, Catholic guilt, and feeling “not good enough” 22:03 — Gratitude as the real antidote to comparison 26:00 — The practical shift: turning envy into gratitude 27:01 — Closing thought: where does the comparison game end? About Your Hosts: Bishop Michael is a longtime friend and mentor to Andy, with more than three decades of shared history between them. A bishop known for his straightforward, often funny take on faith, he brings decades of pastoral experience, from teaching religious studies to serving as a first responder to his own community, to every conversation on the show. Andy is a businessman, husband, and father who co-hosts This Should Be Good, bringing the questions real people are actually asking into conversation with Bishop Michael. Equal parts curious and irreverent, he keeps the conversation grounded in the everyday realities of work, parenting, and trying to keep up. Connect & Resources: Have a question or a topic you'd like covered? Submit it here: thisshouldbegood.show, your question could become a full episode.

  11. Sep 2

    Ep2: I have my doubts. Do you? | This Should Be Good

    Bishop Michael and Andy dig into one of the biggest questions listeners have sent in: is it okay to have doubts? After a round of rapid-fire questions, the two get into what doubt really is, why the opposite of faith isn't doubt but certainty, and how even a bishop wrestles with it. Episode Highlights: 00:00 — Introducing today's topic: doubt versus faith 00:45 — Rapid-fire: the career he'd have chosen instead of the priesthood 03:35 — Rapid-fire: his most embarrassing sing-along confession 04:10 — The phone call that led him from sportswriting to religious life 08:02 — Discernment, doubt, and the freedom to walk away 09:18 — Marriage as a covenant, not a contract 11:03 — Doubt as a function of relationship, not belief 21:30 — Why faith feels harder to talk about than almost anything else 26:08 — Owning the Church's flaws without losing faith in it 33:54 — The dark night of the soul, and what real spiritual strength looks like About Your Hosts: Bishop Michael is a longtime friend and mentor to Andy, with more than three decades of shared history between them. A bishop known for his straightforward, often funny take on faith, he brings decades of pastoral experience, from teaching religious studies to serving as a first responder to his own community, to every conversation on the show. Andy is a businessman, husband, and father who co-hosts This Should Be Good, bringing the questions real people are actually asking into conversation with Bishop Michael. Equal parts curious and irreverent, he keeps the conversation grounded in the everyday realities of work, parenting, and trying to keep up. Connect & Resources: Have a question or a topic you'd like covered? Submit it here: thisshouldbegood.show, your question could become a full episode.

  12. Aug 18

    Ep1: Is Rest Actually Allowed? Bishop Michael on Hustle Culture and the Sabbath | This Should Be Good

    Bishop Michael and Andy have been friends for over 30 years, and they're kicking off This Should Be Good by tackling a question a lot of us are quietly asking: is it actually okay to rest? Between hustle culture, the $1.8 trillion wellness industry, and the guilt that creeps in the moment we slow down, Bishop Michael breaks down what the Sabbath was really designed for, and it's not about doing nothing. Episode Highlights: 00:00 — Bishop Michael and Andy open with this week's real question: is rest actually allowed? 02:02 — Bishop Michael on his own Friday day off — golf, a late breakfast, and actually stepping back 03:12 — What the Sabbath was designed for, with roots tracing all the way back to creation 06:41 — Hustle culture, grind culture, and the $1.8 trillion wellness industry cashing in on our guilt 09:08 — Where self-improvement tips into narcissism, and why “balance” is a smaller target than we think 12:17 — What the saints — and our own grandparents — can teach us about pace 14:47 — Orthorexia: how even eating healthy can become its own trap 16:03 — The Sabbath as one of the Ten Commandments, and why it still holds up 19:38 — “You're not the savior”: rest as a boundary for doctors, therapists, priests, and parents 25:18 — Where to start: the one question to ask before your own Sabbath About Your Hosts: Bishop Michael is a longtime friend and mentor to Andy, with more than three decades of shared history between them. A bishop known for his straightforward, often funny take on faith, he brings decades of pastoral experience, from teaching religious studies to serving as a first responder to his own community, to every conversation on the show. Andy is a businessman, husband, and father who co-hosts This Should Be Good, bringing the questions real people are actually asking into conversation with Bishop Michael. Equal parts curious and irreverent, he keeps the conversation grounded in the everyday realities of work, parenting, and trying to keep up. Connect & Resources: Have a question or a topic you'd like covered? Submit it here: thisshouldbegood.show, your question could become a full episode.

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About

This Should Be Good is a video podcast hosted by Bishop Michael Martin and Andy Pfeiffer — two longtime friends having honest conversations designed to reach the disengaged, the curious, or those who have left the Catholic Church. To do so, they discuss topics people ask about and position the bishop as the humble, genuine, real, yet great spiritual guide that he is.

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  • Creator
    Arthur Elliott
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    12
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Copyright 2026 Arthur Elliott
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