The GGs

Andrea Kohalmi & Susan Cellura

We’ve seen things…and lived to tell the tales. Susan and Andréa are two longtime communications leaders, friends, and professional survivors swap stories about work, travel, leadership, family, career detours, conference mishaps, impossible bosses, and the wonderfully absurd moments that somehow become the best stories later. Some episodes will make you think. Most will make you laugh.

Episodes

  1. Sep 11

    S1 E4: 25 Years Later — Communication, Leadership, and 9/11

    The GGs: 25 Years Later — Communication, Leadership, and 9/11 Twenty-five years ago, the world changed in the span of a single morning. On this solemn episode of The GGs, Susan and Andréa pause their usual business conversation to honor the men, women, and children who lost their lives on September 11, 2001 — the office workers, the passengers, the first responders who ran toward danger, and the reinforcements who came from neighboring states to help. They hold space for the families and communities still carrying that loss, and for the survivors who continue to live with the physical toll of that day. Susan and Andréa share where they were when the news broke — the confusion, the fear, the not-knowing — and walk through what it felt like to sit inside a crisis with no playbook, no precedent, and no way to reach the people you loved. From that memory, the conversation turns to something they know intimately: leadership communication under pressure. In a moment of unimaginable uncertainty, President Bush and Mayor Giuliani offered something rare — composure without pretense, honesty without overpromising, and a visible presence even before the full picture was known. Neither man had all the answers. Both showed up anyway, again and again, with what they did know, acknowledging what they didn't, and refusing to let fear or rhetoric divide the people who needed to feel unified. It's a masterclass in what leadership communication can be: not perfect information, but consistent presence, humility, and truth — delivered with dignity. This episode is both a tribute and a lesson. A reminder of what was lost, and of what it looks like when leaders rise to meet a nation's fear with steadiness instead of spin. Music licensed through Soundstripe. Code: FU1QHTCRYLM9RDSL Closing image is AI generated and serves as an artistic interpretation of NYC.

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We’ve seen things…and lived to tell the tales. Susan and Andréa are two longtime communications leaders, friends, and professional survivors swap stories about work, travel, leadership, family, career detours, conference mishaps, impossible bosses, and the wonderfully absurd moments that somehow become the best stories later. Some episodes will make you think. Most will make you laugh.