The Behavioral Health Underground

Sonda Kunzi and Gary Humble

You think your organization is fine. Claims are going out. Payments are coming in. Funding is in place. But behind the scenes?  Revenue is leaking. Documentation doesn’t fully support what’s billed. Patient liability is unclear. And value-based care is being talked about but not operationalized. Sonda Kunzi and Gary Humble take a direct look at what’s actually happening inside behavioral health organizations. From Medicare, Medicaid, and commercial payer challenges to credentialing breakdowns, audit risk, and the realities of grant and board funding, they connect the dots between how services are delivered—and how organizations actually survive. Based in Ohio with experience across multiple states, they focus on what doesn’t change: the fundamentals that drive compliance, financial stability, and long-term success. If you’re leading, managing, or responsible for the business side of behavioral health, this is the conversation you should already be having.

Episodes

  1. Sep 30

    The Claim Was Denied, but the Problem Started Months Ago

    CLICK HERE TO SEND US QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS! When a behavioral health claim is denied, the billing department is often the first place leadership looks for answers. But what if the real problem started months before the claim was ever submitted? In this episode of The Behavioral Health Underground, Sonda and Gary explore the operational breakdowns that can lead to denied claims, delayed payments, and lost revenue. From payer contracting and credentialing to authorization requirements, documentation, and billing workflows, they discuss why understanding the entire revenue cycle is essential to maintaining a financially sustainable behavioral health organization. They also examine the challenges organizations face when transitioning from Medicaid to commercial insurance, including differences in contracting requirements, reimbursement structures, prior authorizations, and patient financial responsibility. The conversation highlights the importance of proactive planning, cross-departmental accountability, and building stronger relationships with payers to address issues before they become costly problems. The takeaway? A denied claim is often the result of a breakdown that happened long before billing. Identifying those gaps early can help organizations protect revenue, strengthen compliance, and keep their focus on delivering quality patient care. Gary's Links For You: LinkedInWebsiteXSonda's Links For You: WebsiteInstagramFacebookLinkedIn

  2. Sep 16

    The Revenue Is In the Record

    CLICK HERE TO SEND US QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS! In this episode of The Behavioral Health Underground, Sonda Kunzi and Gary Humble discuss why documentation has become one of the most important pieces of the revenue cycle for behavioral health organizations. As utilization management, prior authorization, prepayment review, and post-payment scrutiny continue to shape the payer environment, organizations can no longer afford to wait for a denial before identifying gaps. The clinical record needs to clearly tell the client’s story, demonstrate medical necessity, support the appropriate level of care, and connect treatment back to the individualized treatment plan. Sonda and Gary also explore the need to break down the traditional silos between clinical, billing, utilization management, and leadership. Revenue isn’t simply a billing responsibility. When teams communicate, proactively review documentation, track authorizations, and identify risk before a claim is denied, they are better positioned to protect both the organization’s financial health and its ability to fulfill its mission. The takeaway is simple: the revenue is in the record. In today’s behavioral health environment, proactive documentation and collaboration aren’t just compliance strategies, they’re essential business practices. Gary's Links For You: LinkedInWebsiteXSonda's Links For You: WebsiteInstagramFacebookLinkedIn

  3. Aug 27

    The Perfect Storm: Prior Authorization, Denials, and Behavioral Health Survival

    CLICK HERE TO SEND US QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS! Behavioral health organizations are facing a perfect storm: expanding prior authorization requirements, increased prepayment and post-payment reviews, more clinical denials, and growing pressure on already-thin cash reserves. In the first episode of Behavioral Health Underground, Sonda Kunzi and Gary Humble examine what these changes mean for mental health and substance use disorder providers. They discuss the operational burden of utilization management, the importance of peer-to-peer reviews and appeals, the risks of billing a lower level of care when a higher level was delivered, and why strong documentation must reflect more than clinical need alone. The rules have changed, and delivering excellent care is no longer enough to keep an organization financially stable. Behavioral health leaders must understand payer expectations, build stronger relationships with managed care organizations, and run the business side of their mission with the same intention they bring to patient care. Gary's Links For You: LinkedInWebsiteXSonda's Links For You: WebsiteInstagramFacebookLinkedIn

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You think your organization is fine. Claims are going out. Payments are coming in. Funding is in place. But behind the scenes?  Revenue is leaking. Documentation doesn’t fully support what’s billed. Patient liability is unclear. And value-based care is being talked about but not operationalized. Sonda Kunzi and Gary Humble take a direct look at what’s actually happening inside behavioral health organizations. From Medicare, Medicaid, and commercial payer challenges to credentialing breakdowns, audit risk, and the realities of grant and board funding, they connect the dots between how services are delivered—and how organizations actually survive. Based in Ohio with experience across multiple states, they focus on what doesn’t change: the fundamentals that drive compliance, financial stability, and long-term success. If you’re leading, managing, or responsible for the business side of behavioral health, this is the conversation you should already be having.

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  • Creator
    Sonda Kunzi and Gary Humble
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    3
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © 2026 The Behavioral Health Underground
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    The Behavioral Health Underground