Dialogues in Refugee Studies

Ari Barbalat

This podcast features scholarly interviews with professors specializing in refugee research, authors of recent monographs in migration studies and writers of memoirs on refugee experiences. It offers insightful academic dialogues on a variety of topics. It intends to reach students, practitioners and laypersons.

Episodes

  1. May 11

    Yianni Cartledge, *Ikarians in South Australia, 1900–1945: Emigration, Settlement, Community Building, and Integration*. London: Anthem Press, 2026.

    This scholarly monograph investigates a relatively unexamined diaspora that traces its roots back to the Greek Aegean Island of Ikaria. Ikaria is a small, isolated island located close to the Turkish coastline. It has a rich and independent history, characterized by times of autonomy and self-rule, including the short-lived Free State of Ikaria in 1912, which arose from the Ikarian Revolution against the Ottoman Empire. Up until the nineteenth century, the people of Ikaria were quite insular, but they began to migrate during that era. The initial Ikarian emigrants settled in Ottoman port cities and urban areas, as well as on nearby Aegean islands. Over time, Ikarians made their way to major migration centers such as Egypt and the United States. By 1910, the first Ikarians had arrived in Port Pirie, South Australia, marking the start of a long-standing tradition of Ikarian migration and settlement in that area. This book explores the experiences of Ikarians in South Australia from 1900 to 1945—a timeframe that has not been thoroughly studied, in contrast to most research on Greeks in Australia, which mainly emphasizes the mass migration that took place after World War II and the Greek Civil War. This monograph opens up avenues for future research on Ikarians in South Australia beyond 1945. The book is organized around four key themes: emigration, settlement, community development, and integration, while also examining ideas such as localism and identity as significant elements within these themes.

    Yianni Cartledge, *Ikarians in South Australia, 1900–1945: Emigration, Settlement, Community Building, and Integration*. London: Anthem Press, 2026.
  2. Jan 13

    Niamatullah Ibrahimi, *The Hazaras and the Afghan State: Rebellion, Exclusion and the Struggle for Recognition*. New York: Oxford University Press, 2017

    The Hazaras of Afghanistan have faced the consequences of many destructive forces that began with the formation of the Afghan monarchy in 1747. Their relationship with the Afghan state has been characterized by numerous episodes of ethnic cleansing, mass dispossession, forced displacement, enslavement, and social and economic marginalization.  Mainly Shia in a country that is predominantly Sunni Muslim, and recognizable by their Asian features, the Hazaras have become the internal "Other" in Afghanistan. They look different and adhere to a unique interpretation of Islam in a nation that is vulnerable to internal conflict and external influences. Therefore, the history of the Hazaras offers a distinct perspective on the deep contradictions within Afghanistan as a modern state, and how its ethnic and religious complexities continue to pose challenges to the political framework established after 2001. Niamatullah Ibrahimi’s exceptionally detailed history helps us comprehend the current political situation in Afghanistan. Throughout the book, Ibrahimi adopts a balanced critical viewpoint on essentialist theories of ethnicity. He skillfully demonstrates that to fully understand Afghan politics, one must both broaden their perspective to global and transnational levels and narrow it down below the provincial level. His comprehensive account of the Hazaras’ relationship with the Afghan state not only clarifies the social and political complexities of a particularly vulnerable group; it also illuminates aspects of the state-building process in Afghanistan, highlighting the wider challenges faced by internationally-supported state-building initiatives. By concentrating on the Hazaras, Ibrahimi illustrates how ethnicity, instead of being a fundamental form of social organization, transformed into a tool for political mobilization. He evaluates the costs linked to the creation of modern nation-states in multiethnic societies by recounting the struggles endured by the Hazaras during Afghanistan's evolution. This book is a must-read for political analysts, policymakers, and anyone keen on understanding why failed multiethnic nation-states result in politics of rage and extremism in the region. This work is truly captivating as it adeptly examines the link between the formation of nation-states since the late 1800s and the politicization of ethnic identities. Ibrahimi brings to life the history of the long-oppressed Hazara minority, detailing their interactions with the Afghan state over the last two hundred years, their complex internal political conflicts, the effects of foreign interventions, and their recent strides in the ongoing pursuit of recognition. It is a story filled with bloodshed, tragedy, and yet, moments of inspiration. This book offers a fresh viewpoint on the strategies and tactics used by the Afghan state, as well as the responses from the Hazaras, focusing on three key events: the Hazara rebellion and their resistance to the Afghan state's encroachment in the 19th century; the incorporation of the Hazara homeland into Afghanistan during the 1890s, which led to their marginalization and exclusion; and the Hazaras' ethnic mobilization and their quest for recognition in recent times.

    Niamatullah Ibrahimi, *The Hazaras and the Afghan State: Rebellion, Exclusion and the Struggle for Recognition*. New York: Oxford University Press, 2017

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This podcast features scholarly interviews with professors specializing in refugee research, authors of recent monographs in migration studies and writers of memoirs on refugee experiences. It offers insightful academic dialogues on a variety of topics. It intends to reach students, practitioners and laypersons.