Dr Lisa Stephenson talks to primary school teacher Helen Kirtlan and children's author and researcher Dr Dan Ingham-Brown. Together, they explore a three-year project embedding Drama Worldbuilding across primary year groups in Doncaster. They reflect on how this creative pedagogy is transforming traditional subject-based lessons into immersive, inquiry-based adventures. Talking Points Reviving Curriculum Relevance: Bringing learning up to date for modern contexts to create low-stakes spaces where children can experiment freely. Drama Worldbuilding Framework: How the three-part structure of Invitation, Exploration/Dilemma, and Discovery invites children to inhabit narrative roles. Gains in Learning Retention: How an embodied storytelling session increased factual knowledge retention among SEND pupils. Sustainable Teacher Coaching: The shift from artist-led co-planning to teacher-led execution and peer mentoring. Oracy, Agency & Wellbeing: How co-created story worlds develop pupils' critical thinking, vocabulary, negotiation skills, and personal confidence. About Our Guests Helen Kirtlan is a primary school teacher and drama worldbuilding expert within the Exceed Learning Partnership in Doncaster. She is a champion for creative pedagogies, peer coaching, and building inclusive classrooms where all children can flourish. Dr Dan Ingham-Brown is an acclaimed children's fantasy author, researcher, Royal Literary Fund Fellow, and founder of Original Ink. As a core member of the Story Makers collective at Leeds Beckett University, his work bridges creative writing, drama, and primary education. Resources Story Makers Company: https://storymakersco.com Exceed Learning Partnership: https://exceedlp.org.uk/ Daniel's website: https://danielingrambrown.wordpress.com/ Research (Hear Beryce and Lisa in conversation with Chartered College of Teaching) ) Stephenson, L., Nixon, B. OBE and Patel, N (29th April, 2025) Chartered College of Teaching- Rethinking Curriculum- Igniting Creativity: activating children’s social-emotional learning, oracy and conflict resolution through collaborative storymaking.https://my.chartered.college/event/rethinking-curriculum-igniting-creativity-activating-childrens-social-emotional-learning-oracy-and-conflict-resolution-through-collaborative-storymaking/ Stephenson, L., Nixon, B., Hodgson, R. and Austwick, R. (2026) ‘Activating children’s social-emotional learning through story-making: A collaborative approach in primary classrooms’, Impact Journal, 27. Chartered College of Teaching. : https://my.chartered.college/impact_article/activating-childrens-social-emotional-learning-through-story-making-a-collaborative-approach-in-primary-classrooms/ Stephenson, L., Patel, N., Nixon, B., Hodgson, R. and Austwick, R., 2026. Embedding Drama Pedagogy for Wellbeing Literacy: Children's Dispositions for Collective Creativity and Ethical Action. Literacy, 60(3), p.e70043. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/lit.70043 Stephenson, L., McLellan, R. and Willard, E. (2026) ‘Permeating the curriculum through collective creativity, social-emotional learning and ethical action through children’s voices’, Impact Journal, 27. Chartered College of Teaching https://my.chartered.college/impact_article/permeating-the-curriculum-through-collective-creativity-social-emotional-learning-and-ethical-action-through-childrens-voices/ Credits Story Makers Research Centre podcast, Carnegie School of Education at Leeds Beckett University. Episodes recorded by Erin Faye Jenkins and Tom Xioutas Post-production by Laura Wilkes, Haven Tsang and Beryl Kwok at Communicating for Impact